Why not now fight for a animated firefly show?

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TUJIAOZUO

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:56 PM

I doubt this makes a different as to how others view my post, but I'm an animation major. (2D, we're talkin old school)

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Originally posted by Ads:
Okay fair enough, I could be wrong. I suppose that anything is possible and that there might be a chance that the show can start again with the actors, but every day that go's by this is becoming less and less likely. And allot of days have gone by.

Agreed, we're at this point where the television series isn't likely unless it is more of a spinoff, focusing on one or a handful of the original cast. Live action wise, a movie is more likely. Everyone's pretty much moved on in terms of career. Yes, I'm sure the cast would love to jump right back into their roles and pick up where they left off, but a lot of them are already bound to shows or other projects that don't allow for a filming of Firefly Season 2.

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Don't get me wrong, I would love it if the show got resurected normally. In fact, I would probably creme my pants.

There's about five of us in my all girls dorm that would not only creme our pants, but would spaz out, racing through the streets of San Francisco wearing knitted hats and taking turns dancing with a stuffed triceratops named Wash (Well his names Hoban but who wants to be called Hoban?).

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but when it comes down to it I would much rather they have made a series exactly the same as Firefly, just animated. The main reason people I have talked to dont like this idea is because it doesnt use the original actors, but I don't understand it. I would even go as far as prefering animated over the movie even if it didn't use the same actors. I love the actors, they made the show awsome. But I love the dialog,story and the way it was told even more. I am a firefly fan, not a firefly groupie.

This is where I feel Animation can be the correct medium for this franchise. The movie was was awesome stuff, but so much, so many little nuances in the characters and their story were left out due to the format of movies. And comics while great still can't quite capture the heart and soul of Firefly. As mentioned before, getting the cast all back together on TV would be probably impossible.

But there's a possibility that you could get everyone to voice act.

Voice acting would fit schedules more readily that normal filming for an hour long television show (filming I believe takes about a week for one episode). Filming takes sets, special effects, lighting, wardrobe, ect. Voice acting Nathan can come in to the soundbox in his pajamas and play Mal.

A lot of people are probably afraid the characters would just look like caricatures of the cast, that's not necessarily true. The cast would be referenced heavily for character design. Nathan and the gang could even be filmed one day for reference footage for the animators (A technique commonly used). Having them filmed in costume, acting out their character's mannerisms would aid the animator's ability to render the characters true to form, capturing nuances. The way Mal's coat goes back when he draws his gun, how River moves through a walk cycle, the way Kaylee gives that coy little smile, it could all be captured in footage and translated.

While it generally takes longer to animate an episode than film one live action (one month), animation has come a long way in terms of being able to be detailed and realistic. With a strong 2D style and the right CG effects applies we could see worlds and scenes that would have been impossible to see with a live action TV budget. The opulence of Sihnon, the English regale of Londinuim. Hover cars, enormous cities, blending of culture, everything could be a much grander scale, but with the same intimacy of the crew we're used to. Animation would just make the verse larger, with more possibilities in terms of settings and action (no stunt doubles).

Style is debatable. Obviously not paper cut Southpark or stop motion Robot Chicken, however I personally think a pseudo-anime 2D style would work with the premise of Firefly re

ADS

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:33 PM

Schism, I fully understand where you are coming from and you are right, what you are saying could happen. But I still wouldn't care for two main reasons. I don't really care about what non-browncoates think about the show and I am personally at the point now where if it is all or nothing then I would take the risk. In fact I would probably still be happy if it bombed and destroyed any possible chance at more episodes. At least then I will be able to stop torturing myself into thinking firefly will come back to me. I am big buffy and angel fan also and firefly was about a billion times better so if I got to see that story evolve like buffy's got the chance too then, well, nothing I could type here would adequitly explain how happy I would be(exept for maybe what ash wrote).

"There's about five of us in my all girls dorm that would not only creme our pants, but would spaz out, racing through the streets of San Francisco wearing knitted hats and taking turns dancing with a stuffed triceratops named Wash (Well his names Hoban but who wants to be called Hoban?)."

Lol. Heres a firefly fan after my own heart :)

Ash, you rule. In fact, you are exactly the type of fan I was hoping would stumble onto this thread. I don't need to comment on your reasoning. It is flawless and much more convincing then mine. I recently started a facebook cause/group to try and generate interest for this idea but I think you should go on and make one yourself. You can sell this concept better then I can so if you want to take the time to do it I will delete my group and join yours(I dont really have many members yet anyway). If you don't want to do this or don't want to use facebook I would like to ask if you please wouldn't mind letting me copy your post onto my group and maybe even helping me make a better group description then the one I came up with.

Let me know what you think. I don't know if this idea would ever take off but what I do know is that I had completely given up hope until the idea of it going animated was told to me. Now I at least think there is a chance again. However slim.

RALLEM

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:51 PM

I would like to see an animated series of firefly.

http://swyzzlestyx.com/index.html

BRIGLAD

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:02 PM

Put me in the "Yes" Column.

The lovely Ash said it best in her post above so I won't go repeating things.

Let's just say that if done well (like the early Batman/Dark Knight Animated series) It would make Me an ecstatic Browncoat.

If done poorly, I'll still be happy because... I'm a Browncoat.

Nuff' Said

Brian

SCHISM

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:12 PM

My only concession here would be if the animated series was specific to a sci-fi or other 'specialty' channel.

Otherwise it would be made to fit mainstream consumption (aka - kid-ified).

But if it was on a sci-fi channel or something similar, it would be made for an older audience.

Remember, mainstream North America don't yet embrace animation as anything but a medium for children.

ZEEK

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:19 PM

I could only see this working on something like the SciFi channel or maybe Spike. It would need to be on cable and on a channel that it's devoted to children's programming. However, if it was animated well and targeted to adults then I would be onboard in a heartbeat.

I gotta say I don't really like hearing animation takes a month per episode though. 12 episodes a year? :-(

SCHISM

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:45 PM

They could always have groups of animators split across several episodes at one time.

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:08 PM

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Let's see...what cute and loveable alien 'mascot' would they create to humourously menace the crew?

A Fox, of course.

In the words of Jayne...
"Saw that comin."

-F

RALLEM

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:12 PM

I'm not sure I would like a cute alien pet as a mascot.

http://www.swyzzlestyx.com/index.html

TUJIAOZUO

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:15 PM

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I could only see this working on something like the SciFi channel or maybe Spike. It would need to be on cable and on a channel that it's devoted to children's programming. However, if it was animated well and targeted to adults then I would be onboard in a heartbeat.

I gotta say I don't really like hearing animation takes a month per episode though. 12 episodes a year? :-(

Seeing as I'm not there yet, I do know that alot of episodes are done far in advance before the premeire, that way by the time the first season ends they are well on their way animating the middle of the second season (Generally speaking most animated series have a guranteed run of three seasons, some that had a large audience can go on much longer, like the Simpsons, Spongebob, Family Guy, Fairly Oddparents ect. You might be bummed out about the three season median but hey, we didn't even get one full season, three's pretty damn shiny with a little over 20 eps a piece, with some awesome 2 hr TV movie wrapping everything up or leading into comics or something). A lot of stuff here in the states has the storyboarding, voice acting, reference footage and some key animation done here, and the in betweens and coloring is sent off to Korea to a secondary animation studio for cost cutting. There it's all put together, then sent back.

Schism I agree with the kidafying part. Firefly is in no way a show that could be easily boiled down for kids. (How the hell do you explain Inara without giving her a trite position or getting rid of her completely?)

Ads, I don't have a facebook, but you're welcome to use my post.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
I could only see this working on something like the SciFi channel or maybe Spike. It would need to be on cable and on a channel that it's devoted to children's programming. However, if it was animated well and targeted to adults then I would be onboard in a heartbeat.

I gotta say I don't really like hearing animation takes a month per episode though. 12 episodes a year? :-(

Seeing as I'm not there yet, I do know that alot of episodes are done far in advance before the premeire, that way by the time the first season ends they are well on their way animating the middle of the second season (Generally speaking most animated series have a guranteed run of three seasons, some that had a large audience can go on much longer, like the Simpsons, Spongebob, Family Guy, Fairly Oddparents ect. You might be bummed out about the three season median but hey, we didn't even get one full season, three's pretty damn shiny with a little over 20 eps a piece, with some awesome 2 hr TV movie wrapping everything up or leading into comics or something). A lot of stuff here in the states has the storyboarding, voice acting, reference footage and some key animation done here, and the in betweens and coloring is sent off to Korea to a secondary animation studio for cost cutting. There it's all put together, then sent back.

Schism I agree with the kidafying part. Firefly is in no way a show that could be easily boiled down for kids. (How the hell do you explain Inara without giving her a trite position or getting rid of her completely?)

Ads, I don't have a facebook, but you're welcome to use my post.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Let's see...what cute and loveable alien 'mascot' would they create to humourously menace the crew?

A Fox, of course.

In the words of Jayne...
"Saw that comin."

-F

I gave River a cat for her familiar, it works pretty well.

Then again.. there is Shan-shan, Inara's pet tiger witht the
ironical disposition of a retriever...

Your Indian Pirate Lord,
Ash

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