My daddy always told me......
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Friday, January 30, 2009 20:37
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Stop breeding! The Future is clones, chimyras and robots, with brainchips for everyone else. Get over it.
Cyborg monkey with robot arm
Brain cell on a chip
Future of the GMO human race
"Lay down G.I. Lay down G.I..."
-Tokyo Rose (U.S. citizen)
www.earthstation1.com/The_Zero_Hour.html
www.earthstation1.com/Tokyo_Rose.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Rose
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Originally posted by rue:
"... I do think DT has some point about how the rampant inflation and credit problems in our economy have forced a lot of people to work."
Yes, but that is a problem of capitalism, not of equality between the sexes or between groups.
BTW - to reframe this in another context - how would you respond if DT had posted this: The reason people have to work ilke dogs is b/c we no longer have slaves.
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I also believe the issue with the workforce today working so hard has a financial cause. But I'm trying to wrap my head around what DT is saying, understand his perspective, because he has said things about the state of our country, capitalism, and our workforce being enslaved that I agree with. I'm trying to determine how much feminism plays a part in the working habits of the low and middle-waged female working class.
I think female high wage workers do all tend to be feminists, pursuing their careers. I don't pass judgement on whether this is bad for society or not... Though we aren't having as many children, that's true. Just don't know whether that's BAD. So long as it's our choice, I have to support it, but if we're being manipulated into making that choice, that's a whole different story.
I, um, don't follow your analogy. I don't like slavery! I'm arguing against it here, with people pretty much forced to work in our country and the disrespect/social pressure for people who can't or won't. And what happened with African Americans is very wrong, and attitudes and practices towards them even since they were freed has impacted their livelyhood in modern times (slums, inner city schools, success stories being exceptions and not the rule, etc.).
But I don't think I understand what you were trying to say there. Could you explain?
SignyM: That is a good point.
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I said I wasn't going to argue with feminists, but they kept begging for it.
Ah, some choice moments to reflect on:
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I'll pit my well educated, productive, healthy and well educated young against your starving AIDS-ridden hordes any day.
My hordes will crush you. Oh, and they won't have AIDS, because they are having children, not 300 gay partners. They're religious, remember, and oh yeah, AIDS, that's a creation of who? Oh, yeah, right. WHO. Ah, liberal do gooders "helping" poor helpless Africans out of this thing called life. And damning the rest of us.
Oh, and one more thing, when AIDS came to the USA, who said "Test everyone and quarantine the positives." Oh, that was William F. Buckley. Trying to save liberal gay lives, which were the only ones thought to be in danger at the time. Liberals sure blocked that with their "That's a violation of human rights!" Well, the human rights of those positives, who are all dead now, would have been fine SOMEPLACE ELSE. Like on an island, with a hospital. Well, another 100 million corpses later...
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1.3 BILLION people,
Oh, this one's extra special. It's not genocide if you do it to a whole lot of people.
I'll have to remember that from now on.
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BTW, I think you're making the same mistake Wulf is... you assume that ideas are transmitted only by blood relatives and that intelligence is genetic.
Islam is inherited. I don't think it's genetic. You might be confusing it with Judaism
[/snark]BYTEMITE,
I said at the beginning that what I found when I dug was very disturbing, and it would take an extensive research to make an argument. Yes, I think feminism, the one child policy, and PC, a lot of other political ideas are part of the overarching globalism. World population control is a longstanding position of the one worlders. The target has always been 1 billion, which used to be like a 60% reduction, not it's like and 85% reduction. Its natural for people in this mind set and an ethnic group to, say, start with China, Africa or India, because that's not who they are. But there are sinister things in the shadows.
But this wasn't a serious argument, I was simply snarking the feminists just to watch them blow up. The self destruct if you poke them. I wasn't going to do it but I kept asking not to have this argument. Objectively, I think they have a fascist streak, not much different from that found in neocons, but the same in both cases: They learned it by trusting a bogus information source. They cling to it because it strokes their egos. There's really nothing more to it. They like that superior feeling of supremacy. Women were plenty equal before this whole thing started.
Making the case that these people are really sinister would require a real research project, and not my with a fever lying in bed getting sick of feminists.
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Ok, Dream, my mistake. It sort of threw me, with the whole chick pic and name of "dream"..
A manly handshake then?
ROFL. sure. I've been here for years, I only chose that avatar a few weeks ago when someone said "choose an avatar."
There are pre-programmed women out there who have not yet been swallowed by the demon feminism.
As for the name, it was randomly generated by AOL on one of those free disks they sent out back in the mid 90s. It was printed on the disk. So I signed up, and it stuck. I sometimes make up stories about how I got the name, but that's the true one ;)
Oh yeah, right, this is me, in an alternate universe, where I have sex with Inara just for the chance to be narcissistic :)
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PN, I thought GMO humans looked more like this :)
I found this group of cosplay replicants
Pris is more convincing that the others. Another cosplayer.
Sorry, I have a Pris fetish. I hope males of the board will understand :)
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"My hordes will crush you. Oh, and they won't have AIDS, because they are having children, not 300 gay partners. They're religious, remember, and oh yeah, AIDS, that's a creation of who? Oh, yeah, right. WHO. Ah, liberal do gooders "helping" poor helpless Africans out of this thing called life. And damning the rest of us."
I have no idea where to begin on this one. DT, you are in PN land here.
The AFRICAN hordes who transmit AIDS through - guess what - heterosexual sex ? The INDIAN hordes who transmit AIDS through - guess what - heterosexual sex ? The MUSLIM hordes who transmit AIDS through - guess what - heterosexual sex ? The SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICAN CATHOLIC hordes who transmit AIDS through - guess what - heterosexual sex ?
Yep - that's right. The very act of procreating spreads AIDS. Who knew ? (That was sarcasm.)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/atlas/world.html
As for AIDS being a creation of WHO - I could go into all the data showing that the virus exists naturally in apes, that there are human tissue samples from the 1950s that have HIV RNA, that in Africa, the type and incidence of AIDS correlates with the presence of various African armies ... but I'm sure you won't credit mere facts --- or trivial reality. Just like PN.
"Oh, this one's extra special. It's not genocide if you do it to a whole lot of people."
No, it's not genocide if you don't have the INTENT of destroying a group - and if not - guess what - it's not genocide ! How about that ! (And, it is rather hard to show genocidal INTENT - that word you missed - when you got so many people to go through it could literally never happen.)
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Also, maybe you should change your name to Margaret Sanger. Ya' think ?
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Oh Kathy, it's not remotely possibe that I've done my research now, is it?
AIDS was created in a particular experiment in 1955 in Kinshasa by Dr. Hilary Koprowski, who was working on a polio vaccine using imported primates from cameroon. The conclusive evidence was that patient zero was his patient. I've said this before: I don't blame Koprowski for creating aids. I blame him for spending his whole life trying to clear his name, rather than spending it trying to cure aids.
As for PN, you should listen to him once in a while, he's a smart guy, and knows a lot more than any of us here care to admit.
As for the gay, I was refering to the fact that it was *thought* to be a gay disease at the time.
But all venereal diseases are more radically through the gay community, there's nothing unique about AIDS in that regard. The slumming casual sex doesn't help either. Check out the HIV rate in the muslim world. Pretty low.
Where it's highest, you actually find blood transfusion programs, set up by the WHO. It's enough to make anyone a conspiracy theorist. No need for it to be a genetically engineered virus, but what's up with these transfusion programs? All across africa at in the 1960s. Millions, unprecedented. Known to have caused the spread of AIDS in africa by the 1980s. Then the same thing happens in the former USSR, after the fall of communism.
F^&k this argument has wasted my time and I missed an important opportunity about which I'm going to be angry for a very long time. Screw this.
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http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/319612
CHAT Oral Polio Vaccine Was Not the Source of Human Immunodeficiency Virus Type 1 Group M for Humans
Stanley A. Plotkin
University of Pennsylvania, Doylestown, Pennsylvania
A book published in 1999 hypothesized that the scientists who worked with the CHAT type 1 attenuated poliomyelitis strain, tested in the former Belgian Congo in the late 1950s, had covertly prepared the vaccine in chimpanzee kidney cells contaminated with a simian immunodeficiency virus, which evolved into human immunodeficiency virus type 1 group M. This article summarizes the results of the investigation conducted by the author to determine the legitimacy of the accusation. Testimony by eyewitnesses, historical documents of the time, epidemiological analysis, and analysis of ancillary phylogenetic, virological, and polymerase chain reaction data all indicate that this hypothesis is false.
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Oh.... where to even begin.
DT, just because some fascist said population control is a good thing doesn't mean population control is a fascist idea. Even a monkey pounding on a keyboard will eventually write something readable. Our population WILL be controlled... either by nature, or by government, or by individual choice.
In the case of wome choosing to have fewer children, women are simply responding in a very natural way to their changing environment.
So, how has the environment changed?
Well, for one thing, we no longer depend on our children for retirement. Children are an economic drain, not a boon. For another, home is no longer the center of production. In order to work, people usually have to work away from home. Also, in developed nations, not as many children die young... its not necessary to have eight children so that three will survive. There are more things to do the wealthier you get, and people start moving up Maslow's hierarchy of needs, from food and water to self-actualization. And finally, effective birth control is available. Women have ALWAYS practiced some form of birth control, including infanticide, but now it's REALLY effective.
As far as the ills of society... has nothing to do with feminism, but more with capitalism. People slaving away while others are looking for work and starving, has all to do with the politics of profit and nothing at all to do with feminism. The differences between the sexes? It's like the differences between races or religions... a convenient tool for the powerful to drive wedges between everyone else.
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Ok, Sig,
Don't have kids. Its cool. I respect your choice.
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Too late, Wulf! I already do!
ETA: I have a special needs child, who I love dearly. I have learned a lot from being a special needs mom. But the lessons that I learned can be learned by anyone, outside of family as well as within.
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