My daddy always told me......
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Friday, January 30, 2009 20:37
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Dream,
Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion...
cuz you're pretty...
AND you make the most damn sense on this topic (feminism) that I've ever heard.
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Infanticide is a common practice in primtive cultures.
In monarchial France, peasant women would hang their babies up in papoose-like contraptions in the hut from dawn till dusk while they toiled away in the fields under the watchful eye of the overseer, leaving their babies without food or water or cleaning, just as they did ten years ago in NE Brazilian plantations. (Babies were not really considered viable until they were two years old. A child who died before then was simply "not meant" to live.)
And birthing from the distaff's side? It is THE greatest cause of female adult mortality, bar none. In my granparent's generation, stepmothers were common. Men had two or three wives in succession because the women died in repeated childbirth.
So, yeah, if a woman had a choice, which do YOU suppose she might choose?
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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"Sure, there are many ways to do it, but these are the societies you want to emulate?"
Since you are clear that we are talking about CHOICES - who gets to make those choices ?
Women, when given the choice and more options (due to a rising standard of living and urbanization) have fewer - or no - children. It's called the demographic transition, and it happens all over the globe. It happens in India, in Pakistan, in South and Central America, in Russia, in Africa ... It's one reason China is struggling to raise the standard of living, so that that thing they imposed on society - reduced birth rates - will happen naturally. It's the thing the old Soviet Union was struggling against with it's ultra-supportive pro-child policies, as women with more options and a better standard of living had fewer babies.
You seem to want to make that choice for women, and to choose differently for women than they choose for themselves. All hail DT, dictator of women, eh ?
BTW - when it comes to China as an example, you seem to have slid over the reason many people want more than 1 child - it generally happens when the first one is a girl and they're trying for a boy instead.
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Oh, and speaking of 'self-genocide' - in rural subsistence communities, large family size is a blessing and a curse. You want chldren to take care of you. OTOH there's only so much land to go around. There's good reason to believe part of the cause of the Rwandan genocide was the fact that most people had not enough land to farm. The genocide turned into a major land-grab as families were wiped out.
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Uh Oh, now Dream has gotten on the nerves of Rue and Sigy...
FLAME ON!
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Oh, BTW Wulf - DT is a guy. I hope he's not too offended when you rescind your desire to take him in a manly fashion. Unless, of course ... you know ... 
But, that goes into the over-stuffed bin of incidents when Wulf aimed squarely at his own foot.
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Hate much, lately ?
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Oh Rue,
You misinterpret my rage as "hate".
Now stop flirting with me.
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And rage = fear. What a coward.
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Rue, sweetie, every time I come on here you MUST make a comment.
Now, you know I'm married.
STOP.
FLIRTING.
WITH.
ME.
We clear?
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If you stop coming on to DT.
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S'wenyways, DT
Despite Wulf's attempt to stoke hate, I believe we could have a productive discussion.
I hope you would reply to either SignyM, or me, or both.
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