My daddy always told me......

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

ETA: Maybe I just answered your question, Laughingisall!

[joke] Men are so... yesterday! [/joke]

Women are people. Men are people with added aggression.
That's mainly why, IMO.

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:51 PM

Ergo, if we want to become a more peaceful society we should....

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:55 PM

...that's right, withhold sex until we stop fighting!

The Italian-movie-watching Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:18 PM

Ooh, I do hear you, SignyM. Growing up a non-mormon in Salt Lake City with no intentions to marry and have children... The social expectations are almost cruel around here.

They pressure kids into marrying when they're just out of high school around here; seriously, pressure! Kids didn't really want to, but parents and family just keep pushing and pushing at them until they had to give in and find themselves a spouse.

Thank goodness I have good reason, though some people I meet still try it on me... It's nice to be supported and respected for your lifestyle choices, isn't it.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:20 PM

Quote:
...that's right, withhold sex until we stop fighting

The Goddess Kali smiles upon you!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:25 PM

BYTEMITE- Yeah, it's amazing what social pressure can do!!!!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

RUE

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:59 PM

"... seriously, pressure!"

Oh great. Now I have the song going through my head ...

PRESSURE !
Under pressure ...
Um ba ba be
Um ba ba be
De day da
Ee day da - that's o.k.

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Silence is consent.

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:30 PM

Chris, I'm afraid you just invented the rapeocracy.

Meanwhile, I'm chalking up feminism, along with 2nd amendment, abortion, and gaza as locations of landmines.

SIGNYM

Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:03 AM

Landmines?

Are they to be avoided? Or... set off deliberately?

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:57 AM

siggie, depends who you are :)

I think they're planted deliberately, but I intend to avoid them.

I can deconstruct feminism, but I should get into an argument with self-defined feminists who I would term "female empowerment people" vs. what i would term "female supremacists" which is what I would call the old school, but rather, I should make that deconstruction on a site or a book, and then debate it from there.

It's not that I don't want the counter input, I get tons, but that a pointless fight would ensue.

Lemme give you another classic landmine example that I'm not going to discuss, but which needles at me. Okay, I'm RTL, because I'm basically a religious person, I think that life is sacred, etc. A topic of interest to me on this topic would be one like this:

1. What's the limiting factor: If there's food available, then perhaps that's the limiting factor?

2. Will science soon be able to extract a foetus into suspended animation? transplant it? incubate it? If science could save the aborted foetus, should it?

3. If a maple produces a million seeds, but there are not enough nutrients in the soil for a million maple trees, then what would determine whether or not a seed should become a maple tree?

All of this is philosophical discussion within right to life, which could be discussed, to interesting conclusions, potentially.

I'm sure the pro-choice crowd has questions to gnaw on:

1. Whose choice? Feminists would say the woman's, but what about cases where the doctor makes it, that's probably okay with them. How about where the husband makes it. That happens, and makes the femmes nervous. How about if the parents of the woman make it? Or the church? Or the govt.?

2. How late is too late?

3. Is it always acceptable? Is it only for emergencies? A matter of leisure? Should it be used as a form of birth control?

PLEASE, PEOPLE, LET'S NOT HAVE THIS ARGUMENT.

That's a landmine.

Because none of the above topics on either side of this issue could be discussed in a logical and rational manner without the other side just going ballistic on them.

Oh, and don't try to change my mind ;) I used to be pro choice, and I found faith, which gives me insight, and under that, everything is the flow of forces. The forces of nature trump the forces of economics. Always. So, abortion for economic reasons is not something that I can ever accept. Health of the mother, I could, but I'm not going to get into a Roe v Wade argument on how I should cross a lake. I'm simply pointing out the completely destructive potential of a landmine.

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