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My daddy always told me......

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Friday, January 30, 2009 20:37
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:00 PM

... never be dependent on a man. And he was a farmer from the old country.

Which brings me to feminsim and reproductive strategies... ALL moms are working moms! And I don't mean that raising young is a full-time job in and of itself.... If you look across the species, being pregnant, birthing, and raising young DOESN'T exempt females from finding food. Building a den/ nest. Interacting with others of their kind. Defending their young.

Nowhere in nature will you find females lolling around all day, waiting for males to bring home the bacon. The whole concept is unatural.

So the idea that women don't have to be "full-time moms and wives"? It's not feminism, it's NORMAL!


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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:05 PM

Damn right. Women need to EARN that seed!

J/k

I actually agree with what you just said. Will wonders never cease?

Working in the home is STILL work. Despite what others would tell you. And its a damn important job, too.

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RUE
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:38 PM

"Working in the home is STILL work. Despite what others would tell you. And its a damn important job, too."

But it's a job that can be done by men as well as women.

By rough numbers: most people had mothers who were less nurturing than their fathers.

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And Wulf, if that is one of your issues, it's way past time to get the frak over it. It puts you in the same boat as most of everyone else.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:46 PM

Why are there no women in the Double-0 section?
Eh?
Answer me that, Miss Signyfeminazi!*







* U know I'm playin' here




The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:47 PM

So, to get back to reproductive strategies... Despite the hype about alpha males, it's all about the kids.

Really.

In species where the young need two adults in contant attendance (many birds, humans) you will often find equal ratios of males to females. Why?
'cause the guys are just as important gathering food for the young.

Species where the young don't need two adults in attendance (most herd animals) you'll find the ratio very heavily skewed towards females. Why? Because excess males... males that don't directly provide for the young... are just a drag on local resources. All of that stuff about alpha males? It's just a way to get rid of those beer-drinking couch potatoes by making them fight each other until a whole bunch go off in a huff.

Honest!

ETA: Maybe I just answered your question, Laughingisall!

[joke] Men are so... yesterday! [/joke]


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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:54 PM

"And Wulf, if that is one of your issues, it's way past time to get the frak over it. It puts you in the same boat as most of everyone else."

Lets not go there, and lets play nice, shall we Rue?

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RUE
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:56 PM

"Despite the hype about alpha males, it's all about the kids."

Since you didn't mention this, I thought I'd put it in for others: it doesn't matter how 'fit' you are - in terms of evolution, sterility negates virility. But even more, it isn't even about how many you spawn - in terms of evolution, dead young ones won't carry your family tradition, or you genes.

It's about how many of your young SURVIVE LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE YOUNG OF THEIR OWN.

Otherwise --- game over.



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RUE
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:58 PM

"Lets not go there, and lets play nice, shall we Rue?"

I AM playing nice. It's the truest and most helpful thing you'll ever get from anyone.

Or, in a more extended version: as long as you define who you are by the things that were done to you, you will never get over them - and you will never grow up to be a free adult.


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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:18 PM

Didn't Wulf just agree with the thread topic about women being viable members of the workforce?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:27 PM

But is working at home and raising kids exclusively "women's work"? And if it's so gorram important, how come nobody gets paid for it?

Anyway, I think the importance of having children is waaaay overplayed. With 6 billion of us around, it's not like we're going extinct any time in the near future. And for those who think having children in some kind of womanly duty... birth rates always fall with urbanization. ALWAYS. Doesn't seem to matter if the cities are in socalizied economies, oligarchies, or capitalist economies. So if you really want to know the enemy of that "tradition" look towards technology, not feminism.

Just trying to move the conversation to theory isall.

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