Rush: pompous ass
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No one ever calls you a mongoose.
Not precisely true, that.
There was this Hindi guy who worked at Diamond Cab, and we did *not* get on well cause he either figured out what my general beliefs were or somebody told him (I figure the latter just to grind his gears, he was a bit of a jerk) - and he threw something of a hissy and confronted me about it.
I told him it was none of his damned business, but since he cared so much, YES, that was true and invited him to make something of it.
Ever since he's referred to me as "That F**king Mongoose", but since he wouldn't come near me after that, it ain't like I cared - but he most certainly meant it in a derogatory fashion.
Cabbies are pretty used to being insulted though, was kinda funny that the main beef of the two arabic guys I worked with was that americans weren't inventive *enough* when slinging racist or nationalist insults at them.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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"Normal thinking," according to Kirkrules? I'll take that as a compliment.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
No one ever calls you a mongoose.
Not precisely true, that.
There was this Hindi guy who worked at Diamond Cab, and we did *not* get on well cause he either figured out what my general beliefs were or somebody told him (I figure the latter just to grind his gears, he was a bit of a jerk) - and he threw something of a hissy and confronted me about it.
I told him it was none of his damned business, but since he cared so much, YES, that was true and invited him to make something of it.
Ever since he's referred to me as "That F**king Mongoose", but since he wouldn't come near me after that, it ain't like I cared - but he most certainly meant it in a derogatory fashion.
Cabbies are pretty used to being insulted though, was kinda funny that the main beef of the two arabic guys I worked with was that americans weren't inventive *enough* when slinging racist or nationalist insults at them.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
That's supposed to be an insult? You eat cobras for breakfast! It's like he's calling you badass.
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I know, lol!
I believe he meant it to mean sneaky, vicious and bloodthirsty though, given the context of the argument and what it was about - but even that's a pathetic insult when addressed to someone who IS.
Might have been a cultural thing, hell if I know...
-F
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Frem:
If you don't mind me asking, what general belief of yours did he take exception too?
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Hmm. I dug on this one and all I could get was "Game Killer." It would have to be an Indian. Okay, how about Meerkat, anyone?
Or any other colorful ones. It's true, ours get old. I mean, once you've used a**hole to refer to someone obnoxious, it really isn't big enough to cover Bush. Yet, at the same time Knight of the British Empire doesn't even seem to make it into the insult category. Neocon, globalist are self descriptors. I think that we need to go with something else. Trombiculid, a parasitic mite that feeds off of a warthog. It seems to be a kind of chigger.
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One of my favorite cut downs of all time is Queen's "Death on Two Legs", about their former manager. One phrase that always confused me is "old barrow boy", I understand what a "barrow boy" is but why is it considered a derogatory term. Maybe one of you Brits can help on this one.
I really like "big talking small fry". What a great cut down.
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Words and music by Freddie Mercury
You suck my blood like a leech
You break the law and you preach
Screw my brain till it hurts
You've taken all my money
And you want more
Misguided old mule with your pig headed rules
With your narrow minded cronies
Who are fools of the first division
Death on two legs
You're tearing me apart
Death on two legs
You've never had a heart of your own
Kill joy bad guy big talking small fry
You're just an old barrow boy
Have you found a new toy to replace me?
Can you face me?
But now you can kiss my ass goodbye
Feel good are you satisfied?
Do you feel like suicide?
(I think you should)
Is your conscience all right
Does it plague you at night?
Do you feel good feel good?
You talk like a big business tycoon
You're just a hot air balloon
So no one gives you a damn
You're just an overgrown schoolboy
Let me tan your hide
A dog with disease
You're the king of the 'sleaze'
Put your money where your mouth is
Mister know-all
Was the fin on your back
Part of the deal? (Shark)
Death on two legs
You're tearing me apart
Death on two legs
You've never had a heart (you never did) of your own
(Right from the start)
Insane you should be put inside
You're a sewer rat decaying in a cesspool of pride
Should be made unemployed
Then make yourself null and void
Make me feel good I feel good
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If you don't mind me asking, what general belief of yours did he take exception too?
Well, I suppose it wouldn't offend most westerners.
One of the minor patrons or affinities is Kaliyan a subform of Kali, best described in westron terms as a disobediant, smack talking, disrespectful jerk full of cunning and savagery, representing the basest natures of man in combination with his intellect with just enough forebearance and mercy to be tolerated but never liked, by the pantheon.
Best analogy to better known beliefs would be a Modi, son of Thor, who would eventually inherent Mjollnir along with his brother, but whereas Modi is more a single-aspect diesm, Kaliyan is more complex and based on a trickster archetype of malicious and capricious nature closer to Loki in thought, but not nearly that malicious nor especially inimical to humanity - it's hard to describe.
Ok, how bout this...
Imagine bugs bunny with a foul mouth, nasty disposition and real power behind it, but pleased enough with his lot to not meddle overtly.
Best I can do with it, which ain't too hot, but that's the general idea.
Why it set the guy off so bad though, I couldn't tellya.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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How Unseelie.
I got all of those refs actually, but I think that Bugs Bunny as an unseelie spirit is humorous, but probably true. It doesn't not require any change in demeanor. You don't need the objective hostility to be the nefarious trickster.
Whether or not Bugs has the respect of his peers, I'm never clear on, except that he doesn't care.
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As for innovative insulting, how bout "Crypto" ?
Short for Cryptosporidium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptosporidium
Swiped it from a game with oh-so-much amusement value...
-F
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Now, if we could find out why the C word rhyming with 'punt' is so offensive to females, that'd be a mystery solved!
Because calling someone a cunt as an insult means that one finds cunts to be bad, and thus people who have cunts are implied as being less than those who have dicks. Does that solve the mystery for you?
No, not so much. I've just noticed that, even among women, the C word elicits a strong negative reaction. " I just HATE that word" is what one friend of mine said, and I could tell she meant it. Of all the words, this one just sounds vulgar. I can't explain better than that.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Frem
Cryptic.
And Ew.
You Ocelot.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Um, I'm not sure that's not one snark over the line there caveman.
Here's one I don't get: Dog, Bitch, Fox, Vixen.
Think, four canines all with very different connotations when applied to a female. A man is usually a pig, there were times when he might have been a dog, or even a cat.
No one ever calls you a mongoose.
To be a 'cool cat' is a compliment. Yet a pussy, means you're weak, scared and puny. And to be a " pussy cat " means you're gentle, and mild, but not in a derogatory way. Not sure if Michael Vick's legal problems will affect any of this, but among blacks, 'dog' is a word favorable for males, and poodles in specific, for females.
Though not mongoose, I know of one particular football team's offense which was associated w/ meerkats.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Now, if we could find out why the C word rhyming with 'punt' is so offensive to females, that'd be a mystery solved!
Because calling someone a cunt as an insult means that one finds cunts to be bad, and thus people who have cunts are implied as being less than those who have dicks. Does that solve the mystery for you?
No, not so much. I've just noticed that, even among women, the C word elicits a strong negative reaction. " I just HATE that word" is what one friend of mine said, and I could tell she meant it. Of all the words, this one just sounds vulgar. I can't explain better than that.
I'd imagine that has more to do with frequency of use than anything else. I hear the British don't have as much of a problem with it.
Also, just the sound of "cunt" is very powerful - one syllable, hard "c," sharp "t."
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Originally posted by yinyang:
I'd imagine that has more to do with frequency of use than anything else. I hear the British don't have as much of a problem with it.
Also, just the sound of "cunt" is very powerful - one syllable, hard "c," sharp "t."
I rarely hear the C word. And as for the British having less of a problem with it, I'm a bit perplexed. In Lily Allen's "explicit" album "Alight, Still", the song Friday Night, the C word is censored, though words like 'fucking' aren't. I dunno if that's an American thing, edited through I-Tunes , or what, but I find it odd that 'fucking' would be fine, and 'cunt' not. I don't know if a completely unedited version is sold in the UK or not, but it's curious that there's any censoring on an explicit labled album.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
I'd imagine that has more to do with frequency of use than anything else. I hear the British don't have as much of a problem with it.
Also, just the sound of "cunt" is very powerful - one syllable, hard "c," sharp "t."
I rarely hear the C word.
Yeah, that's what I meant. Maybe I should have said infrequency of use.
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And as for the British having less of a problem with it, I'm a bit perplexed. In Lily Allen's "explicit" album "Alight, Still", the song Friday Night, the C word is censored, though words like 'fucking' aren't. I dunno if that's an American thing, edited through I-Tunes , or what, but I find it odd that 'fucking' would be fine, and 'cunt' not. I don't know if a completely unedited version is sold in the UK or not, but it's curious that there's any censoring on an explicit labled album.
Well, cunt is usually considered worse than fuck in America. But, I agree, it's strange that they don't have a completely uncensored version on iTunes.
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And on her song "Alfie" she refers to her brother being a "twat". That's one we don't hear too often in the U.S.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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Originally posted by yinyang:
Also, just the sound of "cunt" is very powerful - one syllable, hard "c," sharp "t."
I think you're on to something there.
It just sounds aggressive and harsh - taking away even the implication of softness (or weakness) as an 'acceptable' feminine attribute (like with "pussy") and just leaving an impression of ugliness, disgust and worthlessness.
When you couple that with the general implication of "female genitalia = weak/bad", you get something that doesn't feel like mere belittling of women, it feels like an aggressive condemnation. Like hate. Or violence.
The word just makes me absolutely uncomfortable, and even when women use it, there seems to be an implication of aggression. It's one of the few swearwords that actually make me think less of a person using it.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I rarely hear the C word. And as for the British having less of a problem with it, I'm a bit perplexed. In Lily Allen's "explicit" album "Alight, Still", the song Friday Night, the C word is censored, though words like 'fucking' aren't. I dunno if that's an American thing, edited through I-Tunes , or what, but I find it odd that 'fucking' would be fine, and 'cunt' not. I don't know if a completely unedited version is sold in the UK or not, but it's curious that there's any censoring on an explicit labled album.
It's likely been censored by American censors. Cunt really isn't that bad over here. It's no worse if said to a man or a woman either.
American censors are pretty strict, they'll even swap Cookie for Biscuit, let alone cunt.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
One of the minor patrons or affinities is Kaliyan a subform of Kali, best described in westron terms as a disobediant, smack talking, disrespectful jerk full of cunning and savagery, representing the basest natures of man in combination with his intellect with just enough forebearance and mercy to be tolerated but never liked, by the pantheon.
And you believe in Kali or something?
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otoh, cat also has a c and a t.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
otoh, cat also has a c and a t.
Very true, but the sound of an -a- between these two letters is much more open and less aggressive than the -un- that is just sort of pushed forth from a barely opened mouth.
Compare:
cat brat splat bat chat rat matt fat
Even if it's short, you still open your mouth a bit and stretch the vowel a tiny wee bit. That eases the hard edges of the consonants and makes the combination sound fairly neutral.
cunt brunt shunt hunt stunt grunt blunt
All of these words sound a little bit aggressive and they certainly invite a grunt-like language, and it's just over all a very closed-mouth syllable, even more so than if you leave out the -n-. The way your mouth moves forming the combination of u-n-t leaves no room for softness or stretching of any kind. It comes out harsh.
'Hunt' sounds a lot more aggressive than 'hunting', I think, because the latter has that stretchy softness of the -ing.
Combine that with pre-existing negative connotations and you get a word that sounds uncomfortably aggressive to a number of people.
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Still not buying the onomatopoeic insult idea, but editing for space, always good.
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Still not buying the onomatopoeic insult idea, but editing for space, always good.
Not trying to convince you. Just describing what informs my reaction to the word.
And it's not an insult automatically because it sounds harsh. It's the combination of a particularly harsh-sounding word with pre-existing insult implications that makes this one a sensitive subject.
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Okay, here's a link to a story about Shush Limpdick, er, I mean Rush Limpschitz, Neocon Idiot.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/20/limbaugh-obama-fail/
He flat out says that he hopes Obama fails. What a country, that a man with absolutely no talent and no redeeming values can say whatever he wants.
And this after Bush and friends desparately tried to destroy the Constitution, brick by brick.
The President may have made too many campaign promises, that critics from all sectors of the political spectrum have voiced their concern, but at least he's trying to save this country from circling the drain. For 8 years we have been subjected to one of the most ineffectual administration since Carter's run in office. History, says Bush, will judge him, hate to say it but we don't need no stinking history to judge you - we already know.
Record thievary, corruption, graft, greed, cronism, embezzlement, books cooked, sabotage, exposing CIA operatives to cover lies, WMDs, Abu Ghraib, Halliburton conflict of interest, Mission Accomplished, Donald Rumsfeld, Financial deregulation, financial ruin, broken promises to the victims of 9/11, August letters, refusal to have NSA Rice testify (only after much criticism and public outcry did this change), spying on Americans (ordinary everyday Americans, particularly American soldiers), failure to act upon the discovery of economic meltdown.
The list could go on. Someone should write a book, oh wait, several have.
SGG
Tawabawho?
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Shiny, had you taken time to inform yourself on the facts before hand, you'd not be making such an embarassment of yourself now.
Bush treid as early as 2003 to fix the problems with Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac, which had a major impact on what we're dealing with now. But you don't care for details, like how it was Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who blocked any attempt to the GOP to set up more sound oversight. Nor do you even care that it was Richard Armatige, not Scooter Libby or Dick Cheney who outed CIA desk jockey, ( not covert operative ) Val Plame. Bush had nothing to DO with that. Oh, an the courts have ruled on the so called " spying ", which the Left claims was illegal, really wasn't. Nice try there too.
Record thievary, corruption, graft, greed, cronism, embezzlement, books cooked, sabotage,...,( Blagojavich, Spitzer, Jim McGreevey, Charles Rangel ) these are far more crimes of the Left, not Bush's.
As for Rush, he's already made a name for himself in the radio hall of fame. Been doing his show for 20+ yrs, and had dominated his industry through out his career. If it was so easy, the Left and their brain trust at Air America would have taken the country by storm. How's that workin' out for them these days ?
Best take some time to educate yourself, and go beyond the headlines of your Left wing dominated newspaper.
Just helpin' out a fellow Browncoast.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Rouka
Yeah. I think the frequency is an issue to, like rat bastard by itself is probably less insulting than motherf^&ker, but carries more impact because it's less common.
SGG
Sorry, I'm still on Rush /ignore -always
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Quote:Are you a lyin'?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just helpin' out a fellow Browncoast.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:I totally see what you're talking about.
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
'Hunt' sounds a lot more aggressive than 'hunting', I think, because the latter has that stretchy softness of the -ing.
There's an abruptness to it.
The sounding Chrisisall
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Rouka
Yeah. I think the frequency is an issue to, like rat bastard by itself is probably less insulting than motherf^&ker, but carries more impact because it's less common.
SGG
Sorry, I'm still on Rush /ignore -always
I don't know about this specific example, because rat bastard doesn't strike me as particularly disturbing.
But I'll agree that motherfucker has lost pretty much any impact it may ever have had due to overuse. It's just cute and silly these days. Aside from being a swearword, I mean.
Frequency can be a factor, but I think that there is not necessarily a one-way influence in that regard. It's probably used less frequently because it has such deeply negative connotations, which increases its impact when it is used. A circular amplification, if you will.
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Are you a lyin'?
Don't go visiting my intentions. Do ever.
Debunk what I said w/ facts, please, and not opinon or talking points or by settin' things on fire.
I know you little guys , looooove to set things on fire.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:LOL.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I know you little guys , looooove to set things on fire.
Just sayin' you should beware the system first & foremost, then blast the individuals who bend to it.
Libs & Cons take equal part in our oppression, little man!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Libs & Cons take equal part in our oppression, little man!
So true, and sometimes they switch voter registration and stay in the back room advising the alliance, I think we call these guys Blue Sun.
But actually, if that was all there was to it, things would be so simple. Alas, our own world is more sinister than the Verse.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
LOL.
Just sayin' you should beware the system first & foremost, then blast the individuals who bend to it
Libs & Cons take equal part in our oppression, little man!
I don't think I've heard you say anything ( non Buffy / Firelfy related ) that I agree with more ! Wow.
Honestly. There could be tears.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Rush is a douche. The end.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
The word just makes me absolutely uncomfortable, and even when women use it, there seems to be an implication of aggression.
Several bands have had fun with the potential Spoonerism of the title Cunning Stunts on albums(Caravan, Cow) and videos(Metallica).
I can still remember hearing a female DJ on WREK, the Georgia Tech student station, saying "That was 'Lover' by Caravan, off their Stunning Cunts album.", followed by a minute of dead air.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:An out-of-date douche.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Rush is a douche.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
The word just makes me absolutely uncomfortable, and even when women use it, there seems to be an implication of aggression.
Several bands have had fun with the potential Spoonerism of the title Cunning Stunts on albums(Caravan, Cow) and videos(Metallica).
I can still remember hearing a female DJ on WREK, the Georgia Tech student station, saying "That was 'Lover' by Caravan, off their Stunning Cunts album.", followed by a minute of dead air.
Heh! Now that is funny!
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Love the revised thread title, by the by....
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Thank you; I'll be here all week.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Love the revised thread title, by the by....
The covert Chrisisall
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Double double toil & troubles
Back-up computer used
& my post doubles 
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Quote:You mean, the new thread title?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don't think I've heard you say anything ( non Buffy / Firelfy related ) that I agree with more !
The
Chrisisall
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No, now that's just low!
I really don't see the benefit in all this. 
Well, it's a little funny. Not much though.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I searched on this phrase removing Rush Limbaugh and bottles of Oxycontin, and I got this thread as a result. is this a paraphrase of something?
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I searched on this phrase removing Rush Limbaugh and bottles of Oxycontin, and I got this thread as a result. is this a paraphrase of something?
I have to assume you're kidding.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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You have seen Serenity, eh DT?
The Operative Chrisisall
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Mal Reynolds: "I don't kill children."
The Operative: "I do... if I have to."
Mike
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Mike, thanks. It was a long time ago, and I had amnesia in the interim, so, yeah, there's things I've forgotten.
[edit] Rather sound like an idiot for a minute, then remain an idiot for life :)
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dreamtrove wrote:
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 14:08
It was a long time ago, and I had amnesia in the interim, so, yeah, there's things I've forgotten.
How do you even find your way back here? Not saying we don't loooooove having you drop in and all,
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Um, isn't amnesia kind of a sensitive and personal topic?
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Thank you ByteMite. That was literal amnesia, I wasn't making a snark. I think Auraptor misinterpreted.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Thank you ByteMite. That was literal amnesia, I wasn't making a snark. I think Auraptor misinterpreted.
While my post may have come across as impersonal and all, that wasn't my intent. While not understanding dt's amnesia, I was merely trying to interject some humor, as he's already been so open about it here. Again, no ill intent on my part, but well meaning funnin'.
As you were.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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