Obama Takes Oath of Office. Again.

POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Friday, January 23, 2009 21:52
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DREAMTROVE

Friday, January 23, 2009 1:11 PM

Okay, so the media isn't fair and balanced, this isn't news. I mean, it's not like all of a sudden the media became democrat owned overnight. The last republican with the media behind him was probably Eisenhower. But it's not like they didn't have Kennedy's back or FDRs.

But that's not Obama's fault. He didn't rig the media. He's not glued to the donkey. If Bush had been a democrat, Obama might have run as a republican. This is the reality for most people running for any office, their party affiliation is decided by who they're running against, and who they know. It's the sports fans who go wild about wedge issues, and wave the red and blue flags.

I want everyone to rewind to the speeches that everyone gave in this primary season. Everyone basically got up and said the democratic party is the party of the people blah blah, Barack said we're not democrats and republicans, we're americans. Well, we're americans with a new president, Barack Hussein Obama.

I didn't vote for the guy, but so far he's been a pleasant surprise, outside of the Clintonistas that he rode in with the him, I like the guy.

Oh, anyone notice that he's been appointing special envoys to pre-empt Hillary This dude is clever. It's going to take a while to shake a case of the Clintons, but here's to hoping he does.

HERO

Friday, January 23, 2009 1:28 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered.

I think thats what they were thinking. But it was all for show. The first document the President signed when they went into the Capital was the Oath. Signing it makes it legal and officially puts the President on the Federal payroll.

Let me ask you this. If speaking the oath, as written, is a mandatory requirement, does the Constitution bar persons who are mute or who do not speak English, or who have some sort of disorder or injury? Constitutionally I say no, but what do you folks think?

H

HERO

Friday, January 23, 2009 1:33 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And you've got it wrong, yet again! Show me the part in the U.S. Constitution where it says the oath needs to be sworn on a bible. Go ahead, show me. I'll wait.

Where's he going to get a bible on short notice? Its not like they leave those things laying around.

Using a bible is a tradition, not a requirement. They also could have used a different Judge, even a State Judge, or even a Justice of the Peace.

H

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, January 23, 2009 3:05 PM

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Oh, anyone notice that he's been appointing special envoys to pre-empt Hillary

That among other things, yeah.

Not sure if the dynamic is Obama using Biden to keep his own hands clean or Biden using Obama as a clean-cut front, but clearly they're working together with Obamas hopeful idealism, and Biden knowing which backs to put the knives in - so far it's workin out pretty good, and finally I have some concept of what Bidens intentions are for the moment.

He seems intent on "clearing the deck" of obstructionist folk who have a tendancy to make deals, sandbag or ignore their part of it while pursuing an agenda at odds to the plan, which is the Clintonistas in spades, and I can hardly wait to see what's in store for Pelosi, cause I *know* that's comin prolly within 3-4 months if not sooner.

The ultimate intention here seems to be getting together an administration that isn't so mired in it's own petty internal infighting that it would be utterly ineffective, something I think a lotta folks were worried about the minute the Clintonistas came on board, but them who won't play ball are gonna find themselves benched in a hurry, I think.

Of course, the long-term intentions are something to be concerned about, but as long as the new prez is operating within his Constitutional Authority and sorting out the hideous disaster the former administration left of this place*, imma leave it be, maybe even help it along.

Not to mention looting it - the reaction of Obamas tech guys to the computer equipment was pretty funny given what kind of antiquated crap they were stuck with to start from...

Of course, if that's all that's left, where did the hi-tech stuff they spent so much taxpayer money on GO? did they just pocket the money, which I doubt since it was paid out and gear was shipped - or did they take a lot of it with them when they left not out of petty spite, but because it contains information the former administration wasn't sure enough they could wipe completely ?

That's a followup I'd very much like to see, with a subpeano and a forensics team from the FBI overseen by a civilian review board who take a security oath.

Ain't gonna happen given that it would cause so much fallout it'd plunge us into a serious crisis all by itself, but a guy can wish, meh.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

DREAMTROVE

Friday, January 23, 2009 3:49 PM

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FREM
Of course, if that's all that's left, where did the hi-tech stuff they spent so much taxpayer money on GO?

Oh, you should see the awesome setup they have now in Dubai

Yeah, the tech thing was funny, as was Obama winning his battle to keep his Blackberry. I agree about the clintonistas and the internal power struggle, and trying to snipe them out before it becomes an endless food fight. I also assume that Pelosi will be the first out on her bony ass.

KWICKO

Friday, January 23, 2009 7:16 PM

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Oh, anyone notice that he's been appointing special envoys to pre-empt Hillary This dude is clever. It's going to take a while to shake a case of the Clintons, but here's to hoping he does.

Yes. Yes I did. And I've refrained from mentioning it because I didn't want to piss off the women-folk around here. I'm glad he put Hillary in a position of power- and I'm glad he's subverting that power at every step and turn. Not because she's a woman, but because she's a Clinton!

He was more or less forced to take her in, in some capacity fairly high up, so he did, and then he did a turnabout on her and pulled the rug out from under her. It's not like she can cry to the media about it, because he did make her Secretary of State - he just never promised that it would be all that powerful a position in his administration!

Good on ya, Mister President.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

DREAMTROVE

Friday, January 23, 2009 7:19 PM

I don't think there are "Women for Clinton." Unless Chelsea+Hillary makes "Women."

KWICKO

Friday, January 23, 2009 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered.

I think thats what they were thinking. But it was all for show. The first document the President signed when they went into the Capital was the Oath. Signing it makes it legal and officially puts the President on the Federal payroll.

Let me ask you this. If speaking the oath, as written, is a mandatory requirement, does the Constitution bar persons who are mute or who do not speak English, or who have some sort of disorder or injury? Constitutionally I say no, but what do you folks think?

H

Constitutionally, I think it would preclude such a person from the office. That's if you want to be a STRICT Constitutionalist about it. In reality, though, a person who couldn't give a speech isn't very likely to be President in the first place. Or at least, that's what I used to think. I mighta misunderestimated the ability of the people to fool me don't get fooled again! ;)

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Where's he going to get a bible on short notice? Its not like they leave those things laying around.

Using a bible is a tradition, not a requirement. They also could have used a different Judge, even a State Judge, or even a Justice of the Peace.

Hopefully you caught the snark in my response earlier. Sure, they SHOULD do it on a bible (wait- that makes it sound dirty), but just because they didnt' doesn't make it null and void. I'm on your side on this one.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, January 23, 2009 7:23 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Dang. I was waiting for the conspiracy theorists to insist that he isn't really the President because the oath wasn't correctly administered.

I think thats what they were thinking.

It was. You didn't have to wait long, cuz there was already a thread about it right here if you look

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Let me ask you this. If speaking the oath, as written, is a mandatory requirement, does the Constitution bar persons who are mute or who do not speak English, or who have some sort of disorder or injury? Constitutionally I say no, but what do you folks think?

I don't think the Constitution would bar someone who was mute or otherwise disabled, no. I think they'd have a hell of a time running and winning, but they wouldn't be barred. Someone who doesn't speak English? Well, I suppose it would be possible to be born here, spend at least fifteen years residing in the country, and reach the required age without speaking any English... I don't think it's likely, and again I don't think such a person would have an easy time of it when it came to being elected to office. The majority of this country still speaks English, after all.

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KWICKO

Friday, January 23, 2009 7:24 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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FREM
Of course, if that's all that's left, where did the hi-tech stuff they spent so much taxpayer money on GO?

Oh, you should see the awesome setup they have now in Dubai

Yeah, the tech thing was funny, as was Obama winning his battle to keep his Blackberry. I agree about the clintonistas and the internal power struggle, and trying to snipe them out before it becomes an endless food fight. I also assume that Pelosi will be the first out on her bony ass.

Dammit, people, QUIT SAYING THAT!!!
Every damn time I see someone talking about Pelosi being out on her skinny ass, it gets my hopes up, and then I have to come back down to earth, where she's still there!

Sorry, but that woman puts me off. Sadly, Harry Reid puts me off even more. Of the two, I'm afraid I'd have to say that Pelosi's got the bigger stones.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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