Loss of Faith

POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 14:39
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DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:23 PM

Check this out.

Pepsi-Cola hits the spot:

While, sure, the yin yang pepsi is very strangely similar to the then new flag of "South Korea"

It was roughly contemporary with the logo change. I think the waves of coke were all red, and Pepsi wanted to be red white and blue, I'm not sure there's more to it than that. The Korean flag was traditionally red white and blue, so I'm not sure that's american imperialism.

But it's a new commie age, and Coca-cola is a big hit, ever since they changed the intonation to happy smile mouth drink from bite the wax tadpole. But looked at more seriously, Coke is all red, and thus, commie-friendly, and yes, the commies are this simple minded. Mao had stoplights reversed and people tear up grass because it was green.

The yin yang as the symbol of my faith also represents ideals upheld by it, such as laissez faire and individualism, which contrast sharply with the commie agenda. They had it. So. To competee in the new market, pepsi has gone commie:

Now the new image retains the American flavor, but has a kind of red-dominance. It's also eerily resembling someone else:

Now, here's the part that I can say I don't want Pepsi as my banner carrier anymore. Pepsi Co. decided to become a major corporate sponsor of the council on foreign relations, globalist "alliance" folks, sadly, one of whom is Obama:

A lot of CFR newbies don't get what this group is really about. Aaron Russo made that point quite clear in America:Freedom to Fascism, and John Edwards made his own statement when he very publicly quit saying something about "these guys are betraying America." Well, that was it for the Edwards campaign. IMHO, if you're not banging a hooker somewhere, they don't even let you run. They sink you with it when they don't like you anymore. They don't like being called traitors.

But the CFR is a bunch of traitors, and so good riddance and here's to hoping Obama sees through this globalism thing, for what it really is: Roadmap to world domination, end to individual freedom and national sovereignty.

Okay, maybe this is a little Pirate Newsy, but I think there's something commie in the pepsi logo change. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with Obama, except that if they're not cooperating, they're hijacking the hope:

Just had me thinking, is all

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:32 PM

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Actually, what are you talking about?

The Yin Yang is the symoblism of opposite forces in balance, the forces of Yin and the forces of Yang. What does that have to do with Individualism and laissez faire. If you wanted to say Collectivism and Individualism were encompassed by Yin Yang, then I'd see the argument, since they're opposing and opposite philosophies (though Yin Yang isn't short hand for opposites, so not exactly), but not one or the other.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:36 PM

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:38 PM

No, the North Korean Flag would be this:

When I said "Korea" vis a vis American Imperialism, I meant "South Korea". I'll edit to clarify.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:51 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
No, the North Korean Flag would be this:

When I said "Korea" vis a vis American Imperialism, I meant "South Korea". I'll edit to clarify.

Yeah, I re-read. But your point is really mixed up and rambling. It's pretty hard to follow is all.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:58 PM

Citizen.
In three years you missed that I was a Taoist.

The symbol is the symbol of taoism, yin/yang are complimentary, not opposites, but they are symbolic of a belief system that the Chinese Communists hate, because it leads to these conclusions. If you want to go digging you can find long rantings by the commies on this subject. The official position of the chinese govt. is that Taoism and its symbol, the yin-yang are representative of individualism and laissez-faire, and hence counter revolutionary, which supports collectivism and controlled socio-economic structure.

This goes far further than this. There's a book I haven't read yet "Manufacturing Confucianism" about how the Communist govt. in its opposition to Taoist principles has not only drawn solely from the Confucian side, but has in fact edited and editorialized, even invented, Chinese historical data and historical culture and fiction. Confucius represents the opposing point of view, and lends itself much more to collectivism and controlled social dynamics, and has been used by the Communists to try to make the case that Communism is the natural way of traditional Chinese culture.

While I don't deny that Confucius is a part of Chinese culture by any means, he/it is not the entirety of Chinese Culture. This Communist world view leads to creations such as Hero, which, while fun to watch, are propaganda representing a very distorted view of Chinese history. Which is not to say that the west hasn't and doesn't do the same, it does. Christianity is always creeping into everything in Europe, even things that way predate Christianization. Roman and Middle Eastern, and indeed modern western ideas are often imposed on European history for no reason other than either ignorance or propaganda. Only point being, cutting the commies some slack for doing a hatchet job on their history, because they aren't the only ones. But still...

One of the things I find fascinating in this forum is how different people can become firefly fans for such vastly different reasons.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:10 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Citizen.
In three years you missed that I was a Taoist.

No, I know you've said many times that you are a Taoist, and I have no reason to disbelieve you.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The symbol is the symbol of taoism, yin/yang are complimentary, not opposites, but they are symbolic of a belief system that the Chinese Communists hate, because it leads to these conclusions.

Not exactly, Yin and Yang are opposite and complimentary forces, Light and Dark, Hot and Cold, Wet and Dry. The Chinese Communist Party hates anything they can't control, that's pretty much any religion, there's nothing special about Taoism in that regard.
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If you want to go digging you can find long rantings by the commies on this subject. The official position of the chinese govt. is that Taoism and its symbol, the yin-yang are representative of individualism and laissez-faire, and hence counter revolutionary, which supports collectivism and controlled socio-economic structure.

Which is hardly conclusive. Chinese Communist party: you're either with them, or against them. Everything against them gets lumped in together. The rant of some Communist party member is hardly a winning argument.
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This goes far further than this. There's a book I haven't read yet "Manufacturing Confucianism" about how the Communist govt. in its opposition to Taoist principles has not only drawn solely from the Confucian side, but has in fact edited and editorialized, even invented, Chinese historical data and historical culture and fiction. Confucius represents the opposing point of view, and lends itself much more to collectivism and controlled social dynamics, and has been used by the Communists to try to make the case that Communism is the natural way of traditional Chinese culture.

Yeah, but not because they 'hate' Taoism. Confucianism was the basis for the Chinese Imperial system for millennia, it's the basis for every Chinese leaders legitimacy from the Three Kingdoms to the Communist Revolution, it's so interwoven into Chinese culture there is no way the Communist party could keep control without some nod in it's direction. Beyond that portraying Confucianism as "complimentary to communism" is just buying into the propaganda of the Chinese Communist party.
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While I don't deny that Confucius is a part of Chinese culture by any means, he/it is not the entirety of Chinese Culture.

Sure, in the same way that the American government, constitution and bill of rights aren't the Entirety of American Culture. Pretty massive part though.
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This Communist world view leads to creations such as Hero, which, while fun to watch, are propaganda representing a very distorted view of Chinese history.

You seem to be drawing a progression that doesn't follow?

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No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:30 PM

Oh dear. Citizen is posting again. This is never good.

Btw, if I were this completely ignorant about a subject, I would keep quiet. An excess of opinion does not make it fact.

Oh, screw it, bring back Whozit and the bagel.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:30 PM

Ack! The dreaded triple post!

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:30 PM

I'm a third of a triple post. I feel like a fifth wheel. If you want a response, citizen, actually, I think you're pretty close to 100% wrong on all of the above. Considering that your one of, if not the, youngest person on the board, you shouldn't count this a surprise. Learn some humility, stick your ego in the backpack, and don't try to provoke me to argue, honestly, I learned some time ago that it's not worth my time.

If you really want, I can chime in on the N. Irish issue. Hey, I might even agree with Finn. Where ever he went. Oh yeah, he was sick of wasting his time as well.

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