Is Buffy passe' now in light of more current vampire movies & series?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 19:32
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JLIN

Friday, January 16, 2009 2:59 PM

I read and like Twilight and all the other books in the series. Of course, I went into it knowing that it was written for young adults and probably not something that was going to make me take a long hard look at anything. That being said, it's a love story and there are werewolves and it hints at other things.

Just by coincidence, I began watching Buffy at the same time I started reading Twilight and I've enjoyed both. I don't think I have to dislike one or the other. I actually think Stephenie Meyer must be a Buffy/Angel fan because there are too many similar things. It's almost transparent where her inspiration came from and if Joss doesn't have a problem with it, then neither do I.

Also, the movie was no where near as good as the book but that could be due to the fact that the theatre was filled with giggling teenage girls.

Thank Universal for airing Firefly in HD at
http://universalhd.com/Firefly/

GWEK

Friday, January 16, 2009 4:05 PM

I've heard the TWILIGHT books are good (well, at least the first one), but the movie is the first time I've ever walked out of the theater in the middle of a movie.

EVER.

I'm almost 40 and have probably seen 1500 or 2000 movies in the theater. A lot of them have been garbage, but I managed to sit through all of DON'T MESS WITH THE ZOHAN and even EYES WIDE SHUT. Couldn't do that with TWILIGHT, making it quite literally one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

In other news, I kinda enjoyed MOONLIGHT, but would've liked it more if I didn't keep comparing it to ANGEL.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

ALIENZOOKEEPER

Friday, January 16, 2009 9:01 PM

Twilight, smi-light. I didn't care for Vampire films, or vampires in RPGs, like WoD, but Forever Knight, Buffy and Angel, while each very different, got me past my normal inclination of- Hell No! (Nothing higher than humans on the food chain... 8-)

I liked Blood +, the anime series, but none of the other vampire anime does it for me, either, which is saying something, since the Japanese seem to love vampires...

Vince

PS- I walked out of Zohan, after holding on for 3/4s of the movie, thinking, gods and ancestors, it can't really be this baaaad!!!!!!

GWEK

Friday, January 16, 2009 10:33 PM

Then DON'T see TWILIGHT. :)

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, January 16, 2009 10:44 PM

Alan Quartermain: King Solomons Mines. Went with a group of friends back in the day (actually the entire football team and a few girls) we walked out en mass. It sucked. Royally.

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OPPYH

Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:15 AM

30 Days of Night is way better.

April Fools!!!!

CHRISISALL

Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigRichard:
have you not read/seen 30 Days of Night Chrisisall?

I will give it a shot on the strength of the recommendation of a fellow Browncoat, BR, thanks.

The Alaskan(not) Chrisisall

BIGRICHARD

Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:20 AM

Ahh see, now I'm worried you won't like it and will never trust me again!

It's good, the graphic novel is very interesting, although I'm not sure if it's worth a purchase.

The film is very well done, although it is NOT a Buffy style character piece. It's more of a survival/thriller type film. Don't go in expecting a funny, Buffy-style time.

Oh, also, since you're here, you've probably already read it, but on the subject of vampires, Fray is a great read.

(oh, and just a heads up for everyone, 30 Days of Night: Blood Trails is NOT worth buying. I saw "cult mini-series prequel", thought "oh wow! a mini-series prequel, only $10!" and it turned out to be a web-series of 8 5-minute shorts which made a mini-prequel, was good, but not worth the money, and an extremely annoying DVD, which had you back to the main menu after every episode, each episode had about 1.5 minutes of 'previously', and credits, which made the whole thing extremely irritating.)

CHRISISALL

Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigRichard:
Ahh see, now I'm worried you won't like it and will never trust me again!

No way, if I don't like it, it just means it's not my cup of Earl Gray.

The replicating Chrisisall

TUJIAOZUO

Monday, January 19, 2009 3:41 AM

Is Buffy passe' now in light of more current vampire movies & series?

The answer is no, vampire pieces are actually now held up to Buffy's standards when critiuqed. I know when I was trolling for Twilight reviews one was quick to mention that Twilight was decent but nothing like Buffy/Angel, and those are big shoes to fill (I think someone also reviewed True Blood and said the same thing). Joss set the bar for the Vamp Genre.

The Vamp Genre for me is something I'm picky about because it can't be the usual blood sucking stake fest (same thing with the werewolves). Buffy is brilliant, Underworld as a great concept but failed miserably with the sequel, and as I've been doing research I dig most of what Twilight has to offer because it's a great spin on such an old myth. It more or less says 'all that stuff you know about us? Public panic, myth.... except for the eating thing.' Which is I think an imaginative way to address what people have feared for centuries. All three franchises are unique in their own way, and that's why I have been drawn to them.

I actually just got home from seeing Twilight. Now I didn't read the book first because A) all of my friends into Twilight have been all 'it'll never be as good as the book!' which is true with anything I've watched after read. And B) Meyer wrote it in the POV of a 16 year old girl, I don't like POV pieces and I seriously don't want to get into the head of some lovestruck 16 year old. So I dragged my brother along and went without anything to compare it against, no bias at all.

Movie sucked.

It wasn't the story itself, the concept was fresh and intriguing, but the execution of it was painful. It started out excruciatingly slow, and only felt like it actually had a decent pace when it reached halfway through.
While I loved the color pallet and the extensive use of the Washington St. backdrop (Favorite state), the camerawork was horrible. They were doing things they tell you not to do your first semester of film school before they even let you film. Constantly cutting 360 pans with intense close ups in between exterior shots and breaking the 180 line, it's confusing as hell. Then with the big fight scene the editing continued to be choppy so you couldn't even see the fight which was taking place in this massive space full of mirrors (that's total visual porn, they could have shot with wide shots and it would have been epic).
Makeup was excessive on the vamps at some times. While they should be pale, there were some times then they were sheet white with bright red lips which looks rediculous.
The score was random and didn't keep with a core tune, it seemed to wander aimlessly with the rest of the movie.
And finally the acting, the acting for the most part was strong, and they had some great character portrayls (particularly the non-humans, LOVED the Cullins, AKA the vampire family. As unnatural as being undead is they felt natural, real, fascinating and kinda sweet in their own nontraditional way) but a lot of the scenes felt weighed down because of the girl playing Bella. Her facial expressions were off a lot of the time, she constantly and excessively blinked. stuttered and scoffed, lacked personality and unfortunately chemistry with the guy playing Edward. The Vamp failed on some deliveries (it felt like the director either held him back or didn't push enough), but she seemed to not engage in nearly all of her scenes (and the movie is in her persepctive). I kept on waiting for some kind of chemistry spark, something to make me want to invest in, but in the end I just came out wanting to see the Vamps play another round of baseball (which was a sweet scene, definitely one of the better ones and it was the one where Bella barely had a part).

So yeah, there is my 2 cents. Ain't Buffy, and I sense it will be a long time before someone surpasses that bar.

Your Indian Pirate Lord,
Ash

EDIT: Whoa sorry on the above overkill of a critque. I get anal.

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