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Sunday, January 4, 2009 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
"... that means that the government (Hamas) is not in control of the population ..."

As the US government is not in control of ITS population - not all of it.

Do you support a foreign occupier for the US on that basis ?

Let me know when rogue factions of the US start bombing neighboring states, and then we can discuss that.




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Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:00 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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...by embedding its military infrastructure and soldiers within civilian populations, which is a pretty serious violation of Geneva Conventions.


Just by way of clarification, what do the Geneva Conventions have to say about specific targeting of known civilian areas and the use of bombs in those areas?

Yes, the Geneva Conventions are opposed to those actions of Hamas as well.

On the other hand, the Geneva Conventions do not forbid the targeting of military infrastructure embedded in civilian populations. It simply forbids the embedding.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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RUE
Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:02 AM

Anthrax attack ? Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing ? The Mafia ? Crips and Bloods ?

Any and all of these would be reason for one area to take over another and 'pacify' it. Are you in favor of that ?

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:14 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Anthrax attack ? Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing ? The Mafia ? Crips and Bloods ?

Any and all of these would be reason for one area to take over another and 'pacify' it. Are you in favor of that ?

Let me know when rogue factions within the US starts bombing neighboring states and then we can discuss that. And by “states” I mean Mexico or Canada. As far as the examples you mentioned, in all of those cases, the government stepped in and handled the offenders. So the government WAS in control. I would have thought that would have been obvious.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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RUE
Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:16 AM

"As far as the examples you mentioned, in all of those cases, the government stepped in and handled the offenders."

Only in the case of the Murrah bombing. The anthrax case went unsolved, and, so far as I know, the Mafia, the Crips, the Bloods, and many other illegal organizations and their people, are still doing business today. So, no, it didn't 'handle' the offenders.

You still have a question to answer.

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
"As far as the examples you mentioned, in all of those cases, the government stepped in and handled the offenders."

Only in the case of the Murrah bombing. The anthrax case went unsolved, and, so far as I know, the Mafia, the Crips, the Bloods, and many other illegal organizations and their people, are still doing business today. So, no, it didn't 'handle' the offenders.

The government has succeeded in infiltrating and bringing many of these elements. Including the Mafia, which never recovered from the loss of John Gotti. Gangs, narcotics and other illegal enterprises are kept in check by police. Either way the Government is there and it is dealing with all of these issues. Moving on.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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RUE
Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:25 AM

Ahem ...

Dealing with it, but not controlled, which is the hallmark you yourself set.

You still have a question to answer.

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:34 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Ahem ...

Dealing with it, but not controlled, which is the hallmark you yourself set.

You still have a question to answer.

I did answer it. I think that’s your real problem. Where are the rogue factions bombing Canada? Or Mexico? Show me where Hamas deals with the supposed non-Hamas factions that are bombing Israel? If you can’t then I suggest you move on, because I’m not interested in playing your word chess. Just let me know when you have a point.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:36 AM

Riverlove -

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But they're real good at blowing up civilian infrastructure from supersonic sorties by the hundreds. Their strategy seems to be kill 500 women and kids for every Hamas leader killed


The the best of my knowledge, 70-80% of the initial 400 Pals killed were those in uniform. I don't know here you get your info, but , as i understand it, the U.N. itself was offering the #'s of dead as being mostly soldiers and armed ( insurgents, terrorist, freedom fighters, what ever )

Listen, I'll say this one last time. HAMAS TARGETS INNOCENT CIVILIANS, ISRAELIS DO NOT! Why there are so many civilians killed in Gaza by Israeli ordinance is very simple. Hamas hides in homes and apartment buildings, and Israel has no choice BUT to shoot there. That's why we have the ground war, so there is a higher % of militants targeted over civilians in Gaza.


Dream - The info I get is that Hamas has been raining rockets down on Israel since day 1 after Israel gave what Hamas wanted.....to get out of Gaza. Israel is the victim here, by EVERY POSSIBLE ANGLE you want to approach this from. Folks say the rockets are in " retaliation " to Israel blockading Gaza. WRONG. Israel is blockading Gaza BECAUSE OF THE ROCKET ATTACKS! This is no chicken or the egg scenario, which is what the biased media from the Arabs wants the world to think. As I understand it, 6000 + rockets have been fired @ Israel in the past 3 YEARS ALONE !!

Now , this is the KEY point - IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE THAT ISRAEL HAS STATE OF THE ART WEAPONRY, THEY ARE NOT THE AGGRESSORS HERE, THEY DID NOT START THIS INFRACTION. You aim a bow and arrow at my wife or children's head, I don't give a fuck how far away you are, I'm gonna come back at you with a machine gun. I have EVERY right, as does Israel, to protect her people.

That's how I see it. Israel is there, they're not going anywhere, they'd prefer to live in peace w/ their neighbors, but if not, they are in their full right to defend themselves.

HAMAS BROKE THE CEASE FIRE HERE, not Israel

If Israel wanted to carpet bomb or wipe Gaza clean of Palestinians, they'd have done so long, LONG ago. There is no merit, none what so ever in the claims that Israel wants to eliminate the Pals. Even tonight, Hamas, has stated they will NOT stop, which leaves Israel zero options, but to advance and conquer.



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RUE
Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:43 AM

"Show me where Hamas deals with the supposed non-Hamas factions that are bombing Israel?"

Show me that that it's Hamas. Then we can talk.

BTW, you STILL have a question to answer.

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