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Sunday, January 4, 2009 5:48 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
KPO.

If you're not another spokesperson for fascism, and are actually interested in the answer, Yes, of course there is no complicity of Hamas in the rocket attacks *before* the Israeli attacks.

Use your brain. Hamas is trying to act in the interests of its own survival. It's not a mindless killing machine.

So Hamas can attack any nation they want. They have to do it by proxy. Israel can do the same thing. Israel should get itself a terrorist faction and start raining missiles down on the civilian targets in the Gaza Strip. That would satisfy you and rue. You can tell the world how Israel isn’t to blame and rue could tell us all how Israel’s response is proportionate.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 5:51 PM

Cumhal,

You invoked the holocaust, to attack me, and godwinned the argument. I will continue to post that as long as you continue to slander me. I have nothing more to say to you. Your personal insults mean nothing. I was offended and still am by your party on my ancestors graves. Please stop commenting on me. You don't know dick about me.

You've never given a rationale for your yen for WWIII, or your hatred of jews, and semites in general, and I'm no longer interested in why.


To everyone else.

New theory, sent to me by a jewish friend: Hamas is a puppet govt. for someone else, another arab power, the Saudis, or Eqypt, someone who wants into this war, and is willing to sacrifice the Palestinians in order to get it.

If true, this make Israel look like suckers, Hamas look like a**holes, and the Palestinians look totally f^&ked.

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 5:58 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
You don't know dick about me.

I know you’re full of crap.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
New theory. Hamas is a puppet govt. for someone else, another arab power, the Saudis, or Eqypt, someone who wants into this war, and is willing to sacrifice the Palestinians in order to get it. Not my own theory, an american jewish one, but plausible. If true, this make Israel look like suckers, Hamas look like a**holes, and the Palestinians look totally f^&ked.

So now Hamas is blameless because they are being controlled by some nefarious outsider. Of course, this nefarious outsider is an ally of the US. No coincidence there, of course! Iran would never be behind such a thing, except that that is exactly what they do, but only with Hezbollah. If we were talking about Hezbollah and not Hamas, you wouldn’t even suggest such a thing.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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KPO
Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:35 PM

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KPO.

If you're not another spokesperson for fascism, and are actually interested in the answer, Yes, of course there is no complicity of Hamas in the rocket attacks *before* the Israeli attacks.



Sorry dreamtrove, I don't have the time to take you seriously. You have your own strange, complex worldview which I'd rather just leave you to.

Heads should roll

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:44 PM

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KIRKSOMETHIN
So, you don't believe in PC but anyone who uses language you don't approve of is a Nazi genocidal slaveholder. Do you ever think before you post, because you posts read more like incoherent babble.



No, just nazis. I'm sorry, is that not PC enough for you? Should I say pro-death lifestyles?



I'm not the one feigning offence at others choice of language. Feel free to call me a Nazi all you want. The point is that if I change my language because you called me a Nazi, that legitimises your attempt at enforcing Political Correctness on me. I find it offensive the way you use the term "Jew" as if Jew=Nazi, but I won't call you a terrorist sympathizer to try and stop you from using specific language. Why do you always assume that when others use a negative epithet that they are referring to an entire race or country when they're really only referring to those that would like to see us all dead.

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:53 PM

I hope the Palestinian Semites massacre all Israeli non-Semitic European White "Jews".

However, Israel founded Hamas, who is allegedly firing these useless rockets at Israel.
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10456.htm

Less than 10 Israelis have been killed by Hamas rockets in 10 years. So obviously not a good military strategy to win a war. But great if you don't want your false-flag psyop to piss off too many Israelis, who just might lynch their Communist dictators.

Hamas rockets "justify" Israeli martial law, concentration death camps, and Holocaust of Palestinans (the only rightful citizens of "Israel").

Israel founding and "infiltrating" Hamas is straight from Pentagon's Jewish Operation Northwoods, which requires hiring enemy soldiers to attack US military bases.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

Just like Jewish president LBJ hiring Israel to sink the USS Liberty and blame Egypt, to "justify" the Israeli invasion of Egypt.
www.gtr5.com

So it's not likely that Israel's Hamas will allow itself to defeat the Israelis.

This is like the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, where the Lebanese military stood down, but the CHRISTIAN Militia wiped out the Israeli army invasion. To "justify" that invasion, Israeli soldiers were arrested inside the Lebanese border, while Israel and the Jewish media mafia in USA lied that the soldiers were kidnapped in Israel.

Israeli defence chief resigns over Lebanon invasion debacle
www.greenleft.org.au/2007/695/36098

If Gaza City is to defeat Israel, it will be required to do so without "help" from Hamas. Hamas has already said it is "standing down" in Gaza City, "to set a trap for the Israelis". Not likely. Maybe there's enough CHRISTIANS in Gaza City to kick Israel's ass?

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 7:04 PM

KPO

Whatever. Most people on this forum consider me reasonable. I rarely get irritated, but read back: cumhal's treatment of the holocaust above, never once acknowledging that perhaps it is wrong to accuse descendents of holocaust survivors for causing the holocaust.

It was a rat bastard thing to do, and I called him on it, and he won't come clean. What he did was an insult, and unforgivable. "I'm sorry you were offended but don't take back what I said" is the real non-apology. It's essentially saying "Heil," so, he was asking for it.

As for my world view, it's called "informed." Sure there are a few who disagree with me on certain points, but they seldom doubt that I am informed and relatively fair and balanced. Also, very difficult to offend.

If you mean to support the holocaust, as he does, then by all means, do so, but don't call my world view "strange." I think I'm in the overwhelming 99.999% majority here.

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 7:10 PM

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I find it offensive the way you use the term "Jew" as if Jew=Nazi,


Um, I would be the one here with any connection to jewish people or the holocaust, no, I didn't say jew=nazi, and it's offensive that you did.


When people use variations on towelhead they know it's an epithet for an entire people. If you called Obama a dumb n*gger, the epithet would offend all blacks, not just Obama.


Cumhal,
Don't communicate with me again. It's a total waste of both my time and yours.

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KPO
Sunday, January 4, 2009 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
KPO

Whatever. Most people on this forum consider me reasonable. I rarely get irritated, but read back: cumhal's treatment of the holocaust above, never once acknowledging that perhaps it is wrong to accuse descendents of holocaust survivors for causing the holocaust.




What did he say exactly, could you quote it? I never saw anything.

I'm saddened by your account of the price your family on your father's side paid during the war, as I am by all personal accounts of suffering in the holocaust - but I'm also wary that personal suffering should never be a trump card people can play to take the moral high ground and win arguments.

Whether or not you have a reasonable worldview (I haven't read all of your words), your first words to me were an invitation to defend myself from the charge of being a fascist, and you never really recovered in my eyes - when you apportioned zero complicity to Hamas for the rocket attacks I'm afraid I lost interest.

As I say you have your own considered, established view of the situation, and so do I. Since your conclusions are so strange to me I don't hold out much hope for intellectual common ground.



Heads should roll

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Sunday, January 4, 2009 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
In Iraq, the pentagon stated that a certain number of IED attacks were actually our guys driving over own unexploded cluster munitions. When asked for a number, they said "could be as high as 95%."



Could you provide a cite for this?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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