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IT ISN'T SAFE -- For THEM

POSTED BY: out2theblack
UPDATED: Friday, January 2, 2009 08:38
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KWICKO

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:42 PM

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Where's your quote from ? It seems oddly familiar , somehow...

You mean the sig? It's from a song, "Tomorrow, Wendy" by Concrete Blonde.

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It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied.
A one-way street, she's walking to the end of the line.
And there she meets the faces she keeps in her heart and mind.

They say 'good bye' Tomorrow, Wendy, you're going to die.
They say 'good bye' Tomorrow, Wendy, you're going to die.

Underneath the chilly gray November sky
We can make believe that Kennedy is still alive and
We're shooting for the moon and smiling Jackie's driving by and

They say 'good try'
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

I told the priest, don't count on any second coming.
God got his ass kicked the first time he came down here slumming.
He had the balls to come, the gall to die and then forgive us.
No, I don't wonder why, I wonder what he thought it would get us.
Hey, hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

Hey, hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

Hey, hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die.

Only God says jump,
So I set the time
'Cause if he ever saw her
It was through these eyes of mine!
And if he ever suffered it was me who did his crying.

Hey hey, good bye.
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
(Tomorrow Wendy's going to die)
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
(Tomorrow Wendy's going to die)
Tomorrow Wendy'd going to die

Hey, hey, good bye
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die

Hey, hey, good bye
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
Tomorrow Wendy's going to die
Tomorrow Wendys going to die

I've always assumed that the Wendy in the song is Wendy from the Peter Pan stories. We all die, even the Lost Boys...

And something about the poetry and imagery of the line just felt right for me.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:41 PM

THE U.S. CIVIL WAR WILL BEGIN BETWEEN 2009 AND 2012:

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Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.

Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

“We’re going to see the end of the retail Christmas….we’re going to see a fundamental shift take place….putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,” said Celente, adding that the situation would be “worse than the great depression”.

“America’s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,” said Celente, noting that people’s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.

Celente, who successfully predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar, told UPI in November last year that the following year would be known as “The Panic of 2008,” adding that “giants (would) tumble to their deaths,” which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and others. He also said that the dollar would eventually be devalued by as much as 90 per cent.

The consequence of what we have seen unfold this year would lead to a lowering in living standards, Celente predicted a year ago, which is also being borne out by plummeting retail sales figures.

The prospect of revolution was a concept echoed by a British Ministry of Defence report last year, which predicted that within 30 years, the growing gap between the super rich and the middle class, along with an urban underclass threatening social order would mean, “The world’s middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest,” and that, “The middle classes could become a revolutionary class.”

In a separate recent interview, Celente went further on the subject of revolution in America.

“There will be a revolution in this country,” he said. “It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen.”

“The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That’s going to be the big one because people can’t afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You’re going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop.”

“It’s going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and we’re going to see many more.”

“We’re going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. It’s going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. It’s going to come as a shock and with it, there’s going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, people’s minds weren’t wrecked on all these modern drugs – over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass

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HERO

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:12 PM

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Yeah, and Hero ain't anywhere near the South. Pretty much anything north of Oklahoma is a Yankee around these parts.

Like most folks living and working in NE Ohio...I'm from West Virginia. Southern West Virginia.

As a baby I gummed biscuits and took sausage gravy in the bottle. Pop gave me my first rifle at 8 and I killed my first rat that very day, my first rabbit that week, and my first car window that month (and had a red ass for the rest of the year...)

I grew up thinking the world was up and down...not flat. By the age of twelve I could tell you what a rock bolt was and why it was important. I've cleaned my own fish, helped skin a deer, made jerky, built a patio, made big assed fire, fallen off a mountain, and back then my cousin was awfully purdy...

I've got a smoker in my yard, love grillin during blizzards, and make my own BBQ sauce (the secret is the bourbon goes in you AND the sauce).

H

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:01 PM

That's 'cause cousin *was* awfully purdy

OUT2THEBLACK

Thursday, January 1, 2009 12:30 AM

Odd how Celente says a lot of the same stuff that the Russkie professor says...And , vice-versa...

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Meanwhile :

The Grandfather Economic Report series calculates that America now owes a total debt (including government, household, business, financial sector, etc.) of $53 trillion. That's $175,154 for every man, woman and child in the country, an increase of $33,781 per family of four over last year.

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OUT2THEBLACK

Thursday, January 1, 2009 1:06 AM

Well , there's still the Liberty option , should folk choose it :

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, January 1, 2009 1:59 AM

o2tb

in the spirit of a new year, forgeting old disputes, we may disagree on this: I don't think the revolution that will win will do so with guns.

But I agree, if Ron Paul would have won, I would have voted for him. I was going to write him in until he told me not to.

The debt will fall on the dollar, through devaluation, and to anyone holding the dollar.

Ron paul himself actually railed against gold during the campaign. He said it's too finite, too easy for some power to monopolize. But we need a new currency, one that doesn't reward theft, and greed.

And we need a new freedom. I say dodge. If they create a regulation, we need to find a way to dodge, if they create a restriction, we need a dodge. We can't stand their and say hell no, because they will come and take us away, one by one, and we can't beat the political machine, because it is rigged. No one can doubt, from the numbers of supporters, or the campaign contributions, or random polling of the man on the street that there was more support for Ron Paul than anyone else, in either party. But the media gave more air time to Rudy Giuliani rating at less than 2% than to Paul, and it did so 10:1.

We need our own media, our own currency, and we need to do it without meeting the power face to face, because they outgun us, but they do not outnumber us.

SIGNYM

Thursday, January 1, 2009 2:08 AM

News from my favorite site:

Will Banks and Financial Markets Recover in 2009? (The short answer is NO.)

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Global financial markets in 2008 experienced their worst crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930's. Major financial institutions went bust; others were bought up on the cheap or survived only after major bailouts. Global stock markets fell by more than 50%; interest-rate spreads skyrocketed; a severe liquidity and credit crunch appeared; and many emerging-market economies staggered to the International Monetary Fund for help... These factors, combined with sharply falling commodity prices, will cause inflation in advanced economies to ease toward the 1% level, raising concerns about deflation, not stagflation. Deflation is dangerous as it leads to a liquidity trap: nominal policy rates cannot fall below zero, so monetary policy becomes ineffective. Falling prices mean that the real cost of capital is high and the real value of nominal debts rise, leading to further declines in consumption and investment - and thus setting in motion a vicious circle in which incomes and jobs are squeezed further, aggravating the fall in demand and prices.

www.rgemonitor.com/roubini-monitor/254919/latest_project_syndicate_col
umn__will_banks_and_financial_markets_recover_in_2009

Investors close the books on the worst year since the Depression for the blue chips - and the worst year ever for the Nasdaq.
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For investors, 2008 has been the worst year since the 1930s. The Dow lost 33.8%, the S&P 500 38.5% and the Nasdaq 40.5%
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/31/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?cnn=
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DT

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there was more support for Ron Paul than anyone else, in either party

My own personal random polling says otherwise.

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Let's party like its 1929.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, January 1, 2009 2:59 AM

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DT

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there was more support for Ron Paul than anyone else, in either party

My own personal random polling says otherwise.

I live in the redneck boonies that is still stuck in the 18th century, and not quite sure about some of these crazy 19th century ideas like electricity, cars, and telephones. It's just possible that my random sampling is not the national average.

tonight were gonna party like its 1699

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, January 1, 2009 9:14 AM

I think guns will play a part, but not OUR guns, what we peons have is mere deterrent force, and not bloody much of it, except against each other.

But it's not the weapons, the equipment, that concern me so much as the folk who hand over their brain and morality to become the triggermen - cause without them, without the folks willing to hand over the reins of their life to the powers that be as cannon fodder, they got NOTHING.

Without the cowardly, treasonous milquetoast collaborators to enforce their will, what are they, really ?
Just one more loudmouth in a world chock full of them unless they can get folk to obey them.

Start looking past the machinery, and look at the people, most of whom are where they are simply because they are so easily manipulated, and that is a game more than one can play.

Also, like you say, we need a dodge - but one very useful key to breaking such dominions is simple.

DO NOT COMPLY.

Now, everyone thinks when they hear that of en-masse civil disobediance, but frankly that only works on an administration with something vaguely resembling a conscience, and that is not what we're dealing with here.

Nor are we speaking of fifth columns.

Allow me to introduce the concept of "oops"

Ah yes, good ole "oops" - that subtle, yet critical, just about unprovable mild incompetence that can wreak absolute *havok* on great, grand plans.

Really, there's no better way to trash a movement than to join it - rather than go power to power, become stainless steel rats in the wainscottings of the very machine aimed at us.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it