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IT ISN'T SAFE -- For THEM

POSTED BY: out2theblack
UPDATED: Friday, January 2, 2009 08:38
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Friday, January 2, 2009 2:08 AM

Be advised, when yer dealing with Alcohol-Gasahol conversion, it's neither as effective, as easy, nor as clean as folks would tell you.

Firstly, you have to use more OF it, which offsets any mileage benefits somewhat.

Second, you have to boost up the compression significantly to get it to go bang, which may or may not be possible on the engine you're dealing with - with many of the older two stroke motors I deal with this involves shaving the head, thinner base and head gaskets, which also requires some port tuning to adjust for the now slightly different timing, and often you'll need to go to a hotter plug heat range as well.

Third, it's not as clean as folks tell you, although you get significantly less pollution in some categories, you do get more in others.

Fourth, your resource cost-effectiveness isn't quite the miracle folks claim it to be neither.

And finally - Alcohol pits the hell out of aluminum and may have adverse effects on a number of materials, we had to go with a pretty heavy oil mix to offset that problem with some of the two-strokes, so be ready for additional maintainence problems to overcome as well.

I mean, it's doable, but it's not the 1-2-3 easy conversion many folks claim it to be, so know what you're getting into before you try it.

Also worthy of note is *WHY* some of the local farmfolk insist those are gasoline vehicles and won't let you near them - because one way the powers that be crush alternate fuel rigs is by coming in and slamming a ruinous amount of "motor fuel tax" on your ENTIRE crop, often retroactively, should they suspect you're not still chained to the pumps like a good little peon, and that is prohibitively expensive for a small land farmer.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, January 2, 2009 3:42 AM

I know a guy with a small brewery and about to get a PhD in chemistry. If that helps

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Friday, January 2, 2009 8:38 AM

DT, in Michigan were pretty cool with the home brewing, you're allowed to brew something up to/over a hundred gallons for "personal consumption" and as long as it's brewed on the premises and beer, wine, cider, mead, etc (no 'hard' liquor) you're allowed to give up to 20 gallons as gift per year long as you don't profit or give it to a minor.

But heaven help you, no matter what, if you so much as dump a single teaspoon of anything in your tank to get the water out after a blizzard, the powers that be will throw a total hissy, nail you to the wall with massive fines and then motor fuel tax on every gallon of everything you've ever brewed in your life even if it was just a bit of slash you culled from fruit sugars.

Seriously, they get *psycho* about it, especially if they suspect you're running Bio-D or SVO, personal consumption only, or not - thus, the seriously paranoid farmers.

Which begs the question of exactly the purpose of that fanaticism, since they seem to be so lackluster in pursuing even the most grevious abuses by the petrol giants.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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