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Newbie in love with this show

POSTED BY: Cole23
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:45 AM

Thanks.I found those on Amazon and ordered them.I'm really excited about the scripts to the shows being in them.I love to read scripts.
Yeah,Chris,I think your right.I'll lay low.
A few thoughts on the show.My wife's favorite character seems to be Shepherd Book though she's also really fond of Kaylee.Among my kids it's overwhelmingly Jayne.I've tried to explain that he's not really a good guy and they counter that he's not a bad one either.Good point.He's the classic anti-hero,and a damn good one.They think he's funny and can kick butt.That's 99% of what they care about.Still,I'm a little hesitant to accept Jayne as role-model material just now.Haha.
My favorite is Wash.I imagine alot of people wouldn't pick him.I just relate more to him.He has a few things that he does very well and he treats his wife and friends right.That makes him worth alot to people.He's not really heroic,but neither is he a coward.I'm not saying I'm in the same class,but I'm tryin'.
This show is really deep.There are so many layers.There's themes that range from spiritual, to cultural,and even family dysfunction.I can see why so many people,including myself,love it.Pure genius.

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:51 AM

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Originally posted by Cole23:
The Signal and I liked it very much.Again,I'm avoiding spoilers so i just listened to a couple of episodes going through and talking about the Serenity pilot.Very insightful.I'm going to listen to Firefly Talk tomorrow.
Someone recommend some books to me.Thanks guys.You've been very cool and helpful to a newbie.



Just a warning, Firefly Talk has a lot of recordings from conventions and will have a LOT of spoilers (not always flagged up). The early Signal tends to avoid movie spoilers as the first season was prior to the BDM coming out, but after that (from mid season 2 as I recall) Firefly and Serenity spoiler warnings were dropped as it was assumed anyone listening by then had seen both (a reasonable assumption)

As you will clearly be finished with the whole lot shortly (it's crack TV, let's face it) and left desperately wanting more (how well I remember that...something you never lose TBH), you won't have to dodge spoilers for long.

Love the fact that it's become a family event. We did that too and are another family of 6 Browncoats :-)

There's plenty more books and material out there once you can be "unspoiled"

Nick

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:55 AM

Thanks Nick.
Only one episode left to watch,Objects In Space.We toyed with the idea of never watching it,so we'll always have something left to watch,but we both know that ain't happening.Ordered the movie Friday night,right after watching the first three episodes in a row,getting on the site and finding out there was a movie.I'm on the UPS website tracking the shipping.Yep.Absolute tv crack.

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:30 PM

NooooOOOOooooo don't read stillflying.net's Virtual Firefly until you've seen the Big Damn Movie. The whole idea was that they took what Joss said, that the movie was to cover what he would have covered in Season 2, and they fleshed out the story of the movie into a lovely fat season of real 44-minute episodes. So it spoils the movie all over the place.

I encourage you to read them, absolutely! But see the movie first.

And Objects in Space? You'll need to see it. About 12 times. And then you'll still be finding new genius in it. It's a beautifully shot episode.

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:18 PM



I'll admit it's not to everyone's taste, but as others have said, give it a chance. After a few episodes, it should just "click" and you'll start really enjoying it. There is the same degree of characterisation, witty dialogue, clever stories (though to be fair, in 7 seasons worth there a number of "filler" episodes that you can happily skip on repeated viewings) that you'd expect from Joss. Oh, plus funny much? Oh yeah.

The premise may sound naff (kind of the point, and yes, some episodes, you do wonder if Joss thought, "now just how silly an idea can I get away with?"...but he pulls it off, mostly!) but it is so much more than that as it develops. There is some *awesome* drama in there and it's worth sticking with it (if only to see Nathan - Mal in season 7 playing a baaaad man in several episodes)

OK so I'm biased. I was a Buffy fan before Firefly stole my heart, but I still watch it and enjoy it. (Though I was never involved in Buffy fandom the way I am in Firefly...with the exception of Buffy Between The Lines: a fan audio drama podcast in it's second season now. And that only happened because of doing Firefly related stuff anyway :-)

Nick

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:25 PM

Welcome Cole23, nice to have you posting with us! You're definitely in luck if you like reading scripts. I agree with others that it's a good idea to see the movie before reading any of the great scripts at http://stillflying.net scripts, but there IS a script that won't spoil the film and was actually created during the run of the show... but never shot, Dead or Alive:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=45

a slightly easier to read version is here:

http://leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Firefly/Firefly_1x15_-_Dead_or_Alive.pdf

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:49 PM

Welcome to the site, and to the ranks of the browncoats, Cole23. Glad to have you here with us.

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:25 PM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I agree with others that it's a good idea to see the movie before reading any of the great scripts at stillflying.net


The seven Season 1 episodes of Firefly at "Virtual Firefly"
www.stillflying.net
don't mention the movie's major mystery. Season 2 -- not so much spoiler safe. The end of season 2 is where the episodes are expanded versions of the movie.

"Firefly - the Virtual Season" at
http://firefly-tvs.com/guide.htm
also has new episodes. Could be spoilers in there, somewhere. Those episodes were formated as short stories rather than the scripts at stillflying.net.

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:42 PM

Welcome to the 'verse!

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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:08 PM

Ni Hao, Cole23.

Stuff to look for...

Watch Jayne's hand when he's standing behind / next to Saffron in the cargo bay scene of "Our Mrs. Reynolds". Watch what he's doing to Safron.. You will die laughing.

In the fight scene at the edge of the cliff in "The Train Job" make sure you catch Mal's line to the crowd surrounding him as they back the crew towards the cliff. I must've watched that episode a half dozen times before I caught Mal's line. Now it's a fav I use everytime I enter a crowded room for the first time.

Enjoy the verse.
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