Iraqi whore throws his shoes at the Prez

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WHOZIT

Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:24 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081214175033.cnbkqgnx&show_art
icle=1 Maybe he just wanted to get is attention?

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:01 PM

I thought it was hi-larious myself.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCRrAR5He4xY&refer
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Normally I be a little irate at someone disrespecting our commander in chief, but after all that has passed, I do believe the Iraqis have the right - and shoes, pies, rotten fruit, those are not the instruments of an assassin, but a people we've badly mistreated showing thier ire at the guy they think most responsible for the disaster their country has recently become.

He took it well, and in good humor, I give him credit for that.

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Bush wasn’t hit by the shoes, which both sailed over his head after they were thrown one after the other. The president shrugged and said “I’m OK” after the incident in Baghdad today. “All I can report is it is a size 10,” Bush said afterwards.

And I find this comment on the matter rather satisfying.

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Bush said today’s incident was an example of free speech in a democracy.

About damn time they learned that, you ask me, now maybe they could get around to applying that concept HERE, for once.

Anyhow, I might not think all that much of the Shrub, but he does have a decent sense of humor and takes the hits quite well, at least publicly.
(Bet the dude who threw em doesn't live out the month though.)

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081214175033.cnbkqgnx&show_art
icle=1 Maybe he just wanted to get is attention?

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

You need to work on your vocabulary. Whore is getting stale. Find a thesaurus and look up some other words.

Other than that - who cares. Its not like he threw my sons sneakers. Now that would have been deadly.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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AURAPTOR

Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:05 PM

I'd rather they throw shoes at our President than grenades.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

PIRATENEWS

Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:08 PM

Jr Bush always got tomatos on his limo on inaugeration day. Oddly there were never any black people at Bush coronations, despite DC being 95% black.

Will Bush's cousin Hussein get the same welcome?

Egg Obama and I'll kill ya!

"Why vote for evil? Would you rather vote for Nero or Caligula?"
-Pastor Chuck Baldwin, Constitution Party nominee for president 2008

GINOBIFFARONI

Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:44 PM

I think this should set a new pop culture standard

at fund raising events instead of a clown in a dunk tank, we could all just throw shoes at clowns in Bush masks...

3 throws for 2 bucks

Lets party like its 1939

ZZETTA13

Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:56 PM

I’m not a big Bush fan but actually I’ve gotta give the prez credit for showing me his “Bush ninja” moves. It would have been a whole other story had the shoe hit him…..”My fellow Iranians” ….Whack!!!!

Z

WHOZIT

Monday, December 15, 2008 12:17 AM

This may get the guy his own show on MSNBC, I bet Olberman is trying to book him now.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

DREAMTROVE

Monday, December 15, 2008 1:33 AM

I have to stand up and salute the throwing of shoes at Bush. Bush is a man, more of a monkey than a man, who waltzed into a country that he dropping a million some tons of explosives on. If they have the restaint to pull a curbside kruschev, then by all mean, the Iraqis are a civilized people.

So, here's a random thought: If McCain, born in US occupied Panama, was allowed to run for president, is Arnie, who was born in US occupied Austria allowed to run? How about an kid born in US occupied Iraq? Someday...

JRC

Monday, December 15, 2008 2:03 AM

That's gratitude for ya. I'll bet the guy that threw 'em probably had some relatives or friends who "disappeared" during Saddam Hussein's rule or were tortured by one of his psycho sons. The BBC reports this guy was once kidnapped by a "militia" and beaten up but doesn't say who the "militia" belonged too.

Everyone dies alone.

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, December 15, 2008 2:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
So, here's a random thought: If McCain, born in US occupied Panama, was allowed to run for president, is Arnie, who was born in US occupied Austria allowed to run? How about an kid born in US occupied Iraq? Someday...

McCain wasn't considered a natural born citizen because the US was occupying the country he was born in, but because his parents were both citizens and he was born on a US military base, considered to be US soil, much the same way as an embassy in a foreign country is US soil.
So, no.

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PIRATECAT

Monday, December 15, 2008 2:41 AM

Yeh pretty funny reminds me of the time Bobby Kennedy got shot by a palestinian. Darn those rag heads with the practical jokes. If you smell goat shit you know your in for a good gag.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, December 15, 2008 2:44 AM

Yeah, like we're not "disappearing" people and torturing folk ourselves...

Only difference to the average Iraqi between us and Saddam is that HE kept the power on, the water flowing and the trains running on time.

Morality be damned, we've done a piss poor job of running things, and they're annoyed about it.

I think it's long past time we *admitted* that simple truth.

-F

PIRATENEWS

Monday, December 15, 2008 3:42 AM

Here's the video: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28223089#28223089
www.msnbc.msn.com/

HILARIOUS! Well done!

White House press whore Dana Parino got a black eye!

"Lips" Bush has obviously gotten Secret Service training on playing dodgeball.

As head cheerleader at all-male schools I'm sure he got a lot of balls thrown his way.

Too bad Amerikan journos are too busy sucking (up) to do their job.

Now all journalists will be required to be shoeless.

Note how Secret Service did NOTHING to protect Bush after the shoe bomb attack. Bush just stands there like an idiot.

Just like 9/11 and the Pet Goat.

Genocide 2.5-million Iraqis, and he's surprised anyone would disagree with that...

The Iraqi prime minister is smiling yet indifferent, seeing the shoe aimed at Bush...

"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.”
—President George H. W. Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, conversation with US Army Intelligence agent and White House press corps Sarah McClendon, December 1992

JRC

Monday, December 15, 2008 4:30 PM

You think this guy would have done the same thing to Hussein? Or one of Hussein's sons?? I know that would not have happened, and if it did, that guy would have been executed on the spot!

Everyone dies alone.

JRC

Monday, December 15, 2008 4:30 PM

You think this guy would have done the same thing to Hussein? Or one of Hussein's sons?? I know that would not have happened, and if it did, that guy would have been executed on the spot!

Everyone dies alone.

JRC

Monday, December 15, 2008 4:30 PM

Damn these double posts!!!!!

Everyone dies alone.

PIRATENEWS

Monday, December 15, 2008 5:05 PM

Here's the Iraqi journalist today:

Oops, that's a US citizen.

Here ya go:

CIA taught Saddam everything he knew.

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"This is not my husband but his double. Where is my husband? Take me to my husband!"
-Mrs Saddam Hussein, US Army concentration camp in Qatar
www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/061804saddamnotsaddam.htm

STORYMARK

Monday, December 15, 2008 5:59 PM

Ah, that's some damned good TV. Wish there had been some poo on the shoes, but oh, well.

Pretty impressive reflexes Dubya's got there. I will give him that.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

PIZMOBEACH

Monday, December 15, 2008 8:37 PM

Good thing for him he didn't invade a country that wears pretzels on their feet...

I wonder how much that desert sneaker will fetch on Ebay...

JRC

Monday, December 15, 2008 8:39 PM

So, a few bad apples in the Army (that's protecting us by the way), are caught doing some bad things. You can't possibly compare these individuals to Hussein's entire regime that killed millions, not only in Iraq, but in Kuwait and Iran also. Open your eyes to the truth. I for one am glad Hussein is no longer on this world. Remember, that journalist would not be alive right now.

Everyone dies alone.

STORYMARK

Monday, December 15, 2008 8:48 PM

I love the "well, he did it worse" defense.

2 wrongs do not make a right.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:53 AM

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PHOENIX ROSE
McCain wasn't considered a natural born citizen because the US was occupying the country he was born in, but because his parents were both citizens and he was born on a US military base, considered to be US soil, much the same way as an embassy in a foreign country is US soil.
So, no.

Not so. The constitution says nothing about parentage. In fact, there is a lot that is left out, more intentionally than people today might suppose, because it was written for Americans of the 18th century. It was assumed that it was quite likely that the parents of any American politician might not be Americans. In fact, there have been historical questions about passed presidents.

Point two: The McCain question was never settled. It is the job of the supreme court to interpret the constitution, not the FEC. The FEC determined that McCain could "run" but not that he could "serve." That would be out of their jurisdiction.

The ruling provided there did use the US occupation of Panama as a justification, not the military base status. If the supreme court upheld that, which they would have, it would have enabled Arnie to make the same case. Sure, a different ruling would need to be made, but it would walk the law in that direction. The law is not carved in stone.

I just thought it was a fun idea. My favorite though would be Nicole Kidman for president. It's absurd, and there's no legal question at all, she's perfectly qualified to run under the constitution, in spite of not being an american. So is Mel Gibson, but he would lose.

MALBADINLATIN

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:17 AM

When I was in Istanbul, meeting my in laws for the first time, I sat down on the couch and crossed my legs displaying the bottom of my right shoe. My Mother in Law and Father in Law to be looked at me like I crapped on thier dinner table. Another thing I did was blow my nose in front of my 95 year old Grandpa in Law to be. I have never heard Turkish and Kurdish spoken so fast and never have that many fingers being wagged in my face at one time.

What this martyr did could easilly get him killed. Americans need to focus on the fact that the Iraqii people praise what he did. What would that say if Americans praised someone who ran up on Sarkozy naked and dry humped him on the ground at the white house? It's even worse than that cuz on people like me think it was funny. When the shoes flew there wasn't one arab in the room smiling at all.

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:22 AM

There's that, but sometimes a person wants to make a statement like that, regardless of personal risk or collateral insult to those nearby.

Having done as much and worse this very week to some local political folk, I've got no particular ground to talk from, you see.

-F

RUE

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:30 AM

Apparently the guy was taken into custody and beaten by the police, is being held incommunicado and is possibly being tortured for his insult / political statement.

Bush filed a criminal complaint against the guy - he would be released if Bush would drop the charges, but Bush won't.

My take - it was theatre. It was less of an assault than a pie in the face, as the shoes never made contact. Bush COULD be philosophical about it, if he had it in him. But he doesn't. He's just a dick.

The journalist probably knew what was in store for him. He's got guts, that's for sure.

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Silence is consent.

GINOBIFFARONI

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:20 AM

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/20081215144834440
817.html

Free Bush shoe-thrower, Iraqis urge

The two shoes narrowly missed the US president as he gave a news conference in Baghdad

Thousands of Iraqis have demonstrated in Baghdad's Sadr City in support of a journalist being held in custody after throwing his shoes at George Bush, the US president.

Muntazer al-Zeidi was detained for what the Iraqi government on Monday said was a "barbaric and ignominious act" during a news conference the previous day.

The outgoing US leader, who was making a surprise visit to Baghdad, had just told reporters that while the war in Iraq was not over "it is decisively on its way to being won," when al-Zeidi got to his feet and hurled abuse - and his footwear - at Bush.

Bush, who had been giving a joint press statement with Nuri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, ducked behind a podium as the shoes narrowly missed his head.

"Millions of Iraqis or rather millions of the people of the world wish to do what Muntadhar did," Uday al-Zeidi, Mundathar's brother, said on Monday.
In Video

Bush caught in shoe attack

"Thank God he had the guts to do it and avenge the Iraqi people and the country from those who plunder it and have killed its people."

Al-Baghdadiya television, his employer, has demanded his release after Yasin Majeed, the prime minister's media adviser, said al-Zeidi would be tried on charges of insulting the state.

An Iraqi lawyer told the AFP news agency that Zeidi risked a miminum of two years in prison if he is prosecuted for insulting a visiting head of state.

Freedom of expression

On Monday, al-Baghdadiya suspended its normal programming and played messages of support from across the Arab world.

A presenter read out a statement calling for his release, "in accordance with the democratic era and the freedom of expression that Iraqis were promised by US authorities".

Iraqis have hailed
Zeidi's actions [AFP]
It said that any harsh measures taken against the reporter would be reminders of the "dictatorial era" that Washington said its forces had invaded Iraq to end.

Demonstrations also took place in the southern city of Basra and Najaf, where some people threw shoes at a US convoy.

Khalil al-Dulaimi, Saddam Hussein's former lawyer, said he was forming a team to defend al-Zeidi and that around 200 lawyers, including Americans, had offered their services for free.

"It was the least thing for an Iraqi to do to Bush, the tyrant criminal who has killed two million people in Iraq and Afghanistan," he said.

"Our defence of Zeidi will be based on the fact that the United States is occupying Iraq, and resistance is legitimate by all means, including shoes."

In Iraqi culture, throwing shoes at someone is a sign of contempt and the incident is likely to serve as a lasting reminder of the widespread opposition to the US-led invasion of Iraq - the conflict which has come to define Bush's presidency.

"Throwing the shoes at Bush was the best goodbye kiss ever ... it expresses how Iraqis and other Arabs hate Bush," Musa Barhoumeh, editor of Jordan's independent Al-Gahd newspaper, wrote.

But support has not been entirely universal and some Iraqis believe al-Zeidi crossed the line.

"I deem it unnecessary. This thing is unjustifiable. It is an incorrect style. We are not violent. One can voice his opinion in other ways," one Baghdad resident said.

Robert Wood, a US state department spokesman, dismissed the incident saying that al-Zeidi was "trying to get attention for himself" and had ignored Washington's successes in Iraq.

"This was one incident and one individual's views, but if you look at the direction we are heading in Iraq now, it's a very, very positive direction and we hope to see that continue," he said.

Bush's visit to the Iraqi capital came just 37 days before he hands the presidency over to Barack Obama, who has vowed to withdraw troops from Iraq.

Lets party like its 1939

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:40 PM

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Shoe thrower 'beaten in custody'

The $10-Million Shoe Man

BBC News

Muntadar al-Zaidi has allegedly suffered a broken arm, broken ribs and internal bleeding, his older brother, Dargham, told the BBC.

The head of Iraq's journalists' union has asked the government for clemency towards the journalist who is still in custody.

A military spokesman said Mr Zaidi was now being held by the judicial authorities who would decide whether he faces charges.

Earlier, Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Baghdad he believed his brother had been taken to a US military hospital in the Iraqi capital.

Hero figure

A second day of rallies in support of Mr Zaidi were held across Iraq, calling for his release.

Meanwhile, offers to buy the shoes he threw are being made around the Arab world, reports say.

Mr Zaidi told our correspondent that despite offers from many lawyers his brother has not been given access to a legal representative since being arrested by forces under the command of Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, Iraq's national security adviser.

The Iraqi authorities have said the 28-year-old will be prosecuted under Iraqi law, although it is not yet clear what the charges might be.

Iraqi lawyers have speculated that he could face charges of insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri Maliki, who was standing next to President Bush during the incident. The offence carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail.

Our correspondent says that the previously little-known journalist from the private Cairo-based al-Baghdadia TV has become a hero to many, not just in Iraq but across the Arab world, for what many saw as a fitting send-off for a deeply unpopular US president.

As he flung the shoes, Mr Zaidi shouted: "This is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog."

Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC that his brother deliberately bought Iraqi-made shoes, which were dark brown with laces. They were bought from a shop on al-Khyam street, a well-known shopping street in central Baghdad.

Abducted by insurgents

The shoes themselves are said to have attracted bids from around the Arab world.

According to unconfirmed newspaper reports, the former coach of the Iraqi national football team, Adnan Hamad, has offered $100,000 (£65,000) for the shoes, while a Saudi citizen has apparently offered $10m (£6.5m).

The daughter of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Aicha, said her charity would honour the reporter with a medal of courage, saying his action was a "victory for human rights".

The charity called on the media to support Mr Zaidi and put pressure on the Iraqi government to free him.

Mr Zaidi, who lives in Baghdad, has worked for al-Baghdadia for three years.

Muzhir al-Khafaji, programming director for the channel, described him as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said that Mr Zaidi was a graduate of communications from Baghdad University.

"He has no ties with the former regime. His family was arrested under Saddam's regime," he said.

Mr Zaidi has previously been abducted by insurgents and held twice for questioning by US forces in Iraq.

In November 2007 he was kidnapped by a gang on his way to work in central Baghdad and released three days later without a ransom.

He said at the time that the kidnappers had beaten him until he lost consciousness, and used his necktie to blindfold him.

Mr Zaidi never learned the identity of his kidnappers, who questioned him about his work before letting him go.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7785338.stm

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JRC:
Remember, that journalist would not be alive right now.

You know that for a fact, Kreskin?

Stop.

The shaking head Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

Pretty impressive reflexes Dubya's got there. I will give him that.

Years of practice with Laura...

The kilt-peeing Chrisisall

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:43 PM

The shoe thrower's family was tortured by CIA's Saddam. Nothing has changed. Except USA is bankrupt.

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Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker

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"He deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?"
-A Baghdad resident

Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference.

Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody.

Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.

An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush.

He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement.

The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before.

"We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7783608.stm

Dana Paerino gets black eye

Quote:
"Hi, everybody. The shoe check-in policy/check-out policy will begin tomorrow.
-Dana Perino, White House press whore

Pentagon's Unmanned Spokesdrone Gives Press Conference

In the U.S. the question being asked is: Why weren't any of the Secret Service close enough to take a shoe for the president? What went wrong with the elaborate system that's supposed to protect the president?

Ex-agent Patrick Lennon said: 'I thought they would have responded after the first shoe. 'Thank God, Bush apparently played a little dodge ball when he was younger.

Hero earns $10-MILLION for 2-seconds work

A Saudi businessman has offered $10million for one of the shoes, Saudi television has reported.
Hasan Mohammad Makhaffa, who owns lands and properties south-west of Saudi Arabia, claims the sum he offered is an auction 'starting price'.

Makhafa, 60, a retired teacher said: 'I consider the shoes the most precious of all my real estate and property, and I will leave them behind as inheritance for my children, to become the shrine, a Medal of Freedom.'

Meanwhile, thousands of Iraqis took to the streets again today to demand the release of the journalist.

Mr Zeidi had yelled 'This is a farewell kiss, you dog. This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq,' as he hurled the footwear during a press conference in Baghdad on Sunday.

George Bush is a war criminal says 1000s at protest in Najaf, Iraq, today

Mr Zeidi's TV station, Al Baghdadia, screened repeated pleas for his release, while showing footage of explosions and playing music that denounced the U.S. in Iraq.
Al Jazeera TV interviewed Saddam's former chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi, who offered to defend Mr Zeidi and called him a hero. In Baghdad's Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical Shia cleri

RIVERLOVE

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by JRC:
Remember, that journalist would not be alive right now.

You know that for a fact, Kreskin?

Stop.
The shaking head Chrisisall

It's not a fact, it's a reasonable assumption based on previous realities. I'd like to offer the following scenario as to what would have happenned to this fellow under the Heusseins:\

1. Uday would have taken him in the back room and he would have been sodomized for hours by all of Uday's Reaver pals.

2. His wife and children would be arrested in their home and brought to Uday....again to hours of torturous sodomy of all, while the poor journalist is forced to watch.

3. The next day the fun would be elevated to whereby the wife and kids would have to watch the guy being tortured ( real torture, not waterboarding), while they all were constantly being raped into un-consciouness.

4. On the fourth day, the wife and kids would all be shot in their heads while the journalist looked on, then more real torture until he's un-conscious again.

5. On day 5, Sadaam, Uday, and Quesay all take their honored seats inside the "grinder room". They are served tea and cake. The journalist, barely alive, is lifted up by a rope and then his feet are dangled over the jaws of the grinder. Sadaam would give the signal, and in he slowly goes. I imagine the screams would give the Huesseins much delight.

Except this never would have ever happened in Iraq. The Heusseins never gave press conferences, unless it was to useful idiot foreign journalists. They would likely have been wise enough not to toss their shoes at Sadaam.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:

It's not a fact, it's a reasonable assumption based on previous realities.

In the context of JRC's post, I took him to mean that in an Iraq with Hussein, the journalist would not be alive for merely being a journalist; of course all that you posted would have happened if he even looked at Saddam with contempt.
I guess I misread the meaning.
Anyone even remember Kreskin, btw?

The retracting Chrisisall

RIVERLOVE

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:

It's not a fact, it's a reasonable assumption based on previous realities.
In the context of JRC's post, I took him to mean that in an Iraq with Hussein, the journalist would not be alive for merely being a journalist; of course all that you posted would have happened if he even looked at Saddam with contempt.
I guess I misread the meaning.
Anyone even remember Kreskin, btw?

The retracting Chrisisall

No retraction necessary. I could be wrong. Maybe the Heusseins weren't as pathelogically crazy as all the stories tell. Besides, I always wondered how these stories "got out". Certainly no one who went thru any of it lived to tell, and any witnesses would likely have been too terrified to ever recant the events. So maybe it's all just a myth. I did watch HBO's House of Sadaam, and Uday & Quesay weren't portrayed as heinous as their reputations alleged. So who knows? It looked like Bush actually got a kick out of it however, because maybe it is a lasting symbol of the individual freedom he tried to establish there.

And I do remember Kreskin. He used to be on Johnny Carson alot, and I think there was a board game or something like that. I'm not sure, but maybe Carson modeled his Karnak after Kreskin?

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:42 PM

I believe Saddam was pretty gorram bad, like, Niska bad.

The solid Chrisisall

RIVERLOVE

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:43 PM

Now we're hearing talk about a conspiracy surrounding the shoe throwing. This journalist's records indicate he's always been a poor thrower, so how could he get off 2 clean shots at Bush in 1.725 seconds? There must have been a second thrower. Actually I believe it was triangulation of fire with three assailants. The first throw went awry and off-camera, but it was enough to get Bush to manoeuver himself into the "kill-zone" for the near-fatal headshot. One shoe thrower indeed! Pshaw! I don't buy that magic shoe theory. Someone call Oliver.....oooops too late, movie made, nobody went. Nevermind.

WHOZIT

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:
The shoe thrower's family was tortured by CIA's Saddam. Nothing has changed. Except USA is bankrupt.

Quote:
Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker

Quote:
"He deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?"
-A Baghdad resident

Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference.

Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody.

Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.

An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush.

He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement.

The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before.

"We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7783608.stm

Dana Paerino gets black eye

Quote:
"Hi, everybody. The shoe check-in policy/check-out policy will begin tomorrow.
-Dana Perino, White House press whore

Pentagon's Unmanned Spokesdrone Gives Press Conference

In the U.S. the question being asked is: Why weren't any of the Secret Service close enough to take a shoe for the president? What went wrong with the elaborate system that's supposed to protect the president?

Ex-agent Patrick Lennon said: 'I thought they would have responded after the first shoe. 'Thank God, Bush apparently played a little dodge ball when he was younger.

Hero earns $10-MILLION for 2-seconds work

A Saudi businessman has offered $10million for one of the shoes, Saudi television has reported.
Hasan Mohammad Makhaffa, who owns lands and properties south-west of Saudi Arabia, claims the sum he offered is an auction 'starting price'.

Makhafa, 60, a retired teacher said: 'I consider the shoes the most precious of all my real estate and property, and I will leave them behind as inheritance for my children, to become the shrine, a Medal of Freedom.'

Meanwhile, thousands of Iraqis took to the streets again today to demand the release of the journalist.

Mr Zeidi had yelled 'This is a farewell kiss, you dog. This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq,' as he hurled the footwear during a press conference in Baghdad on Sunday.

George Bush is a war criminal says 1000s at protest in Najaf, Iraq, today

Mr Zeidi's TV station, Al Baghdadia, screened repeated pleas for his release, while showing footage of explosions and playing music that denounced the U.S. in Iraq.
Al Jazeera TV interviewed Saddam's former chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi, who offered to defend Mr Zeidi and called him a hero. In Baghdad's Sadr City, t

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RUE

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:17 PM

Yes, a secular society where women could be doctors, engineers and even WMD developers has disappeared in the wake of a more religious Iraq.

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FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:28 PM

He won, even if he dies - even if we, or the iraq government we're propping up, beat him to death now...

HE WON.

Look, all of us are talking it about it, aren't we ?
Hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Iraqis are shaking their shoes at Bush, and us for not having the sense to put him in prison instead of the oval office, his single, solitary and very public act inspired many people, exactly as he intended it to do.

And if we, or the Iraqi gov harm him now, we give him even more power, by martyring him and driving his own message all the deeper into that society.

HE GOT IT DONE.

Ponder *that* for a good long while, willya ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:45 PM

Yes, in Iraq showing the bottom of your shoe is a sign of great disrespect. Beating someone with the flat of your shoe is an even greater sign of contempt. (You may recall old women beating the statue of Saddam with their shoes?) Dogs (for some reason) are also considered unworthy. I'm sure Bush has no idea of shoes' significance.

"This is a gift from the Iraqis: this is the farewell kiss, you dog," he shouted. "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

There are a lot of widows and orphans in Iraq now. Our rate of killing Iraqis was a lot higher than Saddam's -who, BTW, we suported in our proxy fight against Iran. The reporter probably couldn't stand that smirk.

Once news of the shoe-throwing emerged, Afghan reporters gathering at the presidential palace in Kabul jokingly suggested a similar tactic upon Bush's arrival at a press conference. In the end, they decided against it.

Yes, we are beloved throughout the world. Not only did we support the tyrant Saddam and then kill a hundred thousand Iraqis to get rid of him, we changed Afghanistan from a moderizing economy with women doctors and engineers into a Taliban-ridden failed narco-state. Good on us!

I do have to say that Bush has got great reflexes.
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GINOBIFFARONI

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
He won, even if he dies - even if we, or the iraq government we're propping up, beat him to death now...

HE WON.

Look, all of us are talking it about it, aren't we ?
Hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Iraqis are shaking their shoes at Bush, and us for not having the sense to put him in prison instead of the oval office, his single, solitary and very public act inspired many people, exactly as he intended it to do.

And if we, or the Iraqi gov harm him now, we give him even more power, by martyring him and driving his own message all the deeper into that society.

HE GOT IT DONE.

Ponder *that* for a good long while, willya ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn.....

on the lawn, hanging from the fence, the trees, the secret service.... shoes everywhere

Lets party like its 1939

RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:33 AM

Yeah - gotta' remember to tie the laces so they hang in the trees n' stuff.

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PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:45 AM

Uncut shoe video:

Note how Bush can only read a "speech" written by someone else.

Now the $10-Million Shoe Man is being tortured at the new-and-improved replacement for Abu Ghraib death camp at Camp Cropper Airport prison.
www.infowars.com/?p=6599

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Yes, a secular society where women could be doctors, engineers and even WMD developers has disappeared in the wake of a more religious Iraq.

War is a man's job. At least the Iraqis figured that out.

But the US military has been sending 17-year-old little girls into combat to get their heads blown off for at least 20 years.

Now black female biker cops are hired as pilots for heliciopter gunships to massacre Iraqi civilians. Oprah with a Gatlin gun! That's progress?
www.military.com/veterans-day/famous-veterans/vernice-armour.htm
www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9415465

www.vernicearmour.com

Now US military death squads are running civilian DUI checkpoints in USA today.
www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=San+Bernardino+County%2C+California+mari
nes+dui+checkpoint&aq=f&oq=

RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn.....

on the lawn, hanging from the fence, the trees, the secret service.... shoes everywhere

A hoot from your perspective; crude, rude and disrespectful to the Office of the President from mine. Would it be a hoot if people tossed Rev Wright's hate-America videos on Obama's lawn too? Or how 'bout Professor Ayers leading off the Inauguration with a nice flag burning?. That'd be a hoot for sure.

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:04 PM

Quote:
Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn.....

In all honesty, I really do think we oughta do just that - and believe me, I'm not the only one thinking it, got an old set of halfboots around here with the heels comin off I could donate to the cause, it comes to it.

-F

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:07 PM

Quote:

A hoot from your perspective; crude, rude and disrespectful to the Office of the President from mine.

He fucking deserves it, Riverlove - he's disgraced that office so very badly that showing our ire in such a fashion is damn near negligable at this point.

Besides which, once we've made our statement, the groundskeepers could collect them up and donate those still servicable to worthy causes.

So we get our statement, AND do some good with it, where's the harm in that ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
He fucking deserves it, Riverlove - he's disgraced that office so very badly that showing our ire in such a fashion is damn near negligable at this point.

Besides which, once we've made our statement, the groundskeepers could collect them up and donate those still servicable to worthy causes.

So we get our statement, AND do some good with it, where's the harm in that ?

It is harmful, I'm sorry you can't see that. It damages all of us alike. It puts you on the same level as the neaderthal Muslims, who seem to relish living under dictators. Mainstream Muslims are abhorred by this. Mistakes aside, we did give them an opportunity for individual freedom, something they never had before. They're a bunch of ungrateful idiots, and they dis-honor the Iraqis & Americans who've given their lives for the cause of their freedom. The same freedom that allowed a free press to be in that room with Maliki & Bush in the first place. But go ahead and toss your shoes. I hope it brings you some measure of satisfaction.

KWICKO

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:58 PM

Quote:

2 wrongs do not make a right.

But 3 lefts do.

Sorry... couldn't resist that one.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

KWICKO

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:07 PM

Quote:
So, a few bad apples in the Army (that's protecting us by the way)...

"Protecting us" from WHAT? From those evil Iraqis who were massing on our border, waiting to invade? From all those Iraqi WMD that have never been found? From all those Iraqi-trained terrorists who didn't exist?

You don't get to preemptively invade a country, occupy it, and THEN decide that you're "protecting us" from an imminent threat that wasn't there in the first place.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

KWICKO

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Now we're hearing talk about a conspiracy surrounding the shoe throwing. This journalist's records indicate he's always been a poor thrower, so how could he get off 2 clean shots at Bush in 1.725 seconds? There must have been a second thrower. Actually I believe it was triangulation of fire with three assailants. The first throw went awry and off-camera, but it was enough to get Bush to manoeuver himself into the "kill-zone" for the near-fatal headshot. One shoe thrower indeed! Pshaw! I don't buy that magic shoe theory. Someone call Oliver.....oooops too late, movie made, nobody went. Nevermind.

Okay, I give - that's freaking AWESOME!

Also, why isn't the first shoe damaged at all? Where did they come up with this "magic sneaker"?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

KWICKO

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
He won, even if he dies - even if we, or the iraq government we're propping up, beat him to death now...

HE WON.

Look, all of us are talking it about it, aren't we ?
Hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Iraqis are shaking their shoes at Bush, and us for not having the sense to put him in prison instead of the oval office, his single, solitary and very public act inspired many people, exactly as he intended it to do.

And if we, or the Iraqi gov harm him now, we give him even more power, by martyring him and driving his own message all the deeper into that society.

HE GOT IT DONE.

Ponder *that* for a good long while, willya ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

Me, personally - I'd like to see Bush come home, and as he hits the stairs coming off Air Force One, see him just get PELTED with thousands of shoes thrown by patriotic Americans.

But maybe that's just me...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:20 PM

I never saw that coming ... didn't even have time to duck ...

Quote:

2 wrongs do not make a right.

Quote:

But 3 lefts do.

Sorry... couldn't resist that one.

Mike

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KWICKO

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:27 PM

Quote:

It is harmful, I'm sorry you can't see that. It damages all of us alike.

BUSH has been harmful and damaging to all of us alike, and I'm sorry you can't see that. Smacking his stupid monkey face with a steel-toe boot would be letting him off easy. In the spirit of his "1984" world, he needs a jackboot on his face for the rest of time. Anything less is spit in the face of every American AND every Iraqi.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:14 PM

Kwikko- Thanks for your appreciation of my little post from yesterday regarding the shoe conspiracy, however your last post troubles me. I understand from your 18,957 posts that you hate Bush. I get it, but the type of action you're talking/joking about now is juvenile and dis-respectful, not only to the Office of the President, but to those who gave their lives believing in him and the mission. It also dis-respects the millions of Americans who still are grateful to Bush for preventing any terror attacks since 9/11. Someday you'll be able to spit on his grave, and I'm sure that will please you to no end.

RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:27 PM

I think it counts a free speech.

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RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:32 PM

On a related note - RiverLove, I read your responses as formulated on these assumptions:
you love the country but hate the freedom.

Am I wrong ?

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STORYMARK

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn.....

on the lawn, hanging from the fence, the trees, the secret service.... shoes everywhere

A hoot from your perspective; crude, rude and disrespectful to the Office of the President from mine. Would it be a hoot if people tossed Rev Wright's hate-America videos on Obama's lawn too? Or how 'bout Professor Ayers leading off the Inauguration with a nice flag burning?. That'd be a hoot for sure.

Once again, you fail to see the distinction between holding one man responsible for his decisions, and holding another responsible for the actions of others.

But hey, party first, right?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
On a related note - RiverLove, I read your responses as formulated on these assumptions:
you love the country but hate the freedom.

Am I wrong ?

I'm surprised you'd leave yourself open like that Rue. I don't have enough time today to properly answer that, except to say that you typically do not get me at all. You cherry-pick my posts and focus on whatever suits your beliefs. That's fine and dandy, but you err when you lump me in with all the others you disagree with. Yes, you are wrong about your assessment, but since when does that matter here?

RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:09 PM

I asked, didn't I ?

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RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:12 PM

"however your last post troubles me. ... the type of action you're talking/joking about now is juvenile and dis-respectful, not only to the Office of the President, but to those who gave their lives believing in him and the mission. It also dis-respects the millions of Americans who still are grateful to Bush for preventing any terror attacks since 9/11."

If I may note: dumping tea into the harbor was also disrespectful to the authorities, their supporters and believers, and the soldiers who died defending them.

And --- so what ? Disrespect is not a crime.

Why should it be an issue ?

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RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"however your last post troubles me. ... the type of action you're talking/joking about now is juvenile and dis-respectful, not only to the Office of the President, but to those who gave their lives believing in him and the mission. It also dis-respects the millions of Americans who still are grateful to Bush for preventing any terror attacks since 9/11."

If I may note: dumping tea into the harbor was also disrespectful to the authorities, their supporters and believers, and the soldiers who died defending them.

And --- so what ? Disrespect is not a crime.

Why should it be an issue ?

Silence is consent.

You're right, disrespect is not a crime. I never said it was. With freedom, I believe, comes responsibility. A responsibility to use your freedom intelligently, and for positive things.

If you were at a funeral for a cousin you never liked, you wouldn't stand up all of a sudden, interrupting the service, and shout out," Oh bullcrap, the guy was a jerk." I know you wouldn't. Why? Because you would hurt the feelings of those other family members and friends that maybe loved the guy. You certainly have the freedom to choose to do that, but you excersize restraint when it's appropriate. That's the only point I've tried to make today on this thread.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:

If you were at a funeral for a cousin you never liked, you wouldn't stand up all of a sudden, interrupting the service, and shout out," Oh bullcrap, the guy was a jerk." I know you wouldn't.

"Never liked" is one thing, but if he really was a jerk, I will assume I'm present at the funeral under duress, and I sure as Hell WOULD express my honest opinion, if asked. If he'd gotten a friend or family member killed as a result of his stupidity, then yeah, I'd shout it out at an opportune moment, and I'd thumb my nose at his gorram dead body, and wish him a better one next time 'round. Respect is for them that deserve it, man.

The harsh Chrisisall

RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Respect is for them that deserve it, man.

I felt that way a lot during my life, but now I don't. I know you're not a kid Chris, so as an adult we all have to occasionally do things we detest. Would you still thumb your nose at his dead body while his wife & daughter were watching? How 'bout his mom & dad? I doubt it, because you're not an animal. Are we all hypocrites in life? Maybe. But within the social and cultural boundaries of our civilized society, sometimes turning the other cheek, aka discretion, is the better part of valor.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
I doubt it, because you're not an animal.

You don't know me well enough to say that, mister *snarls*

Okay, if the little s**t had a kid or a wife, then maybe I'd back off it....

The qualifyin' Chrisisall

RIVERLOVE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:42 PM

Excellent Grasshopper!
You are ready to lift the red-hot, zillion degree, dragon-burning-into-your-flesh thingy off the floor.

RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:47 PM

I don't see how paying negative political tribute to Bush disrespects everyone else, that's all.

And, as a political figure, getting that flak is part of his job description.

It's not at all equivalent to a funeral.

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:47 PM

Is not a man in death to be considered part of that which was, and now part of the earth that sees him rest? Which of us, the low or the high, may claim themselves better? Seek always harmony...
like this dead-jerk-cousin of mine!

HA

The warped Caine Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

It's not at all equivalent to a funeral.

I agree.

The succinct Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:50 PM

I see no reason why Iraqis should be required to respect their occupiers.

If we want to be feared, we shouldn't expect to be liked as well.

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Let's party like its 1929.

RUE

Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:54 PM

"If we want to be feared, we shouldn't expect to be liked as well."

SOME body's been reading their Machiavelli !

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GINOBIFFARONI

Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn.....

on the lawn, hanging from the fence, the trees, the secret service.... shoes everywhere

A hoot from your perspective; crude, rude and disrespectful to the Office of the President from mine. Would it be a hoot if people tossed Rev Wright's hate-America videos on Obama's lawn too? Or how 'bout Professor Ayers leading off the Inauguration with a nice flag burning?. That'd be a hoot for sure.

I have no respect for your President, the outgoing one or the incoming one.

Bush has earned the worlds disrespect, and as he is the elected representative of you Americans... unfortunately all of you get painted with some of that

Obama hasn't earned any respect yet, but he is well ahead of Bush simply because he hasn't had a chance to make the world a worse place. If he causes half as much damage, I'll be the first to slam him.

Lets party like its 1939

RIVERLOVE

Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
I don't see how paying negative political tribute to Bush disrespects everyone else, that's all.

And, as a political figure, getting that flak is part of his job description.

It's not at all equivalent to a funeral.

I guess you didn't notice or didn't care that his smelly shoes hit the American Flag. I feel like all Americans were insulted and disrespected by the incident. You don't, and that's fine. I'd be surprised by any other reaction from you.

RIVERLOVE

Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
I see no reason why Iraqis should be required to respect their occupiers.

If we want to be feared, we shouldn't expect to be liked as well.

We occupied Germany & Japan for a few years too at one time. They came out of it pretty good, good enough to be democratic states now, and world economic leaders.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:

I guess you didn't notice or didn't care that his smelly shoes hit the American Flag.

Is this better?:

The laughing Chrisisall

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:

I guess you didn't notice or didn't care that his smelly shoes hit the American Flag.

Is this better?:

The laughing Chrisisall

You sir, have just disrespected the office of Santa Claus!

...love the reindeer...

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:

You sir, have just disrespected the office of Santa Claus!

Santa Claus is just another corrupt western authority figure....

The Comrade Chrisisall

RIVERLOVE

Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:02 PM

Much better.
Merry Christmas!

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:06 PM

And Buddha bless us- every one!

Tiny Chrisisall

ERIC

Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:45 PM

You've seen the video, now live the adventure!

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/-quot-sock-and-awe-quot-pits-playe
rs-against-president/1274922

Quote:
"Sock and Awe" pits players against President
Can you out-shoe al-Zaidi?

By Mike Smith

Shoe-wielding Iraqi journalist Muntadar al-Zaidi, who was catapulted to international prominence after throwing his shoes at President Bush during a press conference in Iraq, is now the star of the latest in viral Web games.

"Sock and Awe" -- named after the military doctrine employed in the US operation to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq -- allows players to throw shoes at a figure of President Bush, as he ducks behind a podium.

Al-Zaidi missed both his attempts before being dragged off by Iraqi security forces, but players of "Sock and Awe" have a little more leeway -- you can keep slinging footwear for up to thirty seconds.

At the time of writing, the virtual President Bush has been struck in the face by 21 million shoes, the site indicates.

Sock and Awe also shows visitors a league table of "Bush-shoeing countries" -- and although the United States is number one, the top five also includes France, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.

News of his new-found Web fame is unlikely to come as much comfort to al-Zaidi, who is reportedly facing up to two years in prison for disrespecting a foreign leader. Players of Sock and Awe are unlikely to meet the same fate.

"Arguing against this crap is like explaining to a meth tweaker that the shadow people aren't real."
-Bob Cesca

WHOZIT

Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:02 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9555QEO0&show_article=1 I think he should get the pardon, if Bush gets a chance to throw a pair of BRAKE SHOES at him.....Dodge, duck, dip, dive and...dodge.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

SIGNYM

Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:17 PM

RIVERLOVE

Quote:
We occupied Germany & Japan for a few years too at one time. They came out of it pretty good, good enough to be democratic states now, and world economic leaders.

Do you recall the Marshall Plan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

After WWII, Europeans were slowly starving to death. Strikes and unrest gathered strength. Truman saw that peace depended on prosperity. So the Marshall Plan and the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration rebuilt European economies to pre-WWII levels. The USA also rebuilt Japan's economy to prewar levels, a fact not widely known. www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/cwr/91194.htm

This has NOT been our history in Iraq, so don't expect the same results!

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Let's party like its 1929.

RIVERLOVE

Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
RIVERLOVE
Quote:
We occupied Germany & Japan for a few years too at one time. They came out of it pretty good, good enough to be democratic states now, and world economic leaders.
Do you recall the Marshall Plan?

After WWII, Europeans were slowly starving to death. Strikes and unrest gathered strength. Truman saw that peace depended on prosperity. So the Marshall Plan and the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration rebuilt European economies to pre-WWII levels. The USA also rebuilt Japan's economy to prewar levels, a fact not widely known. This has NOT been our history in Iraq, so don't expect the same results!

These things take time. You don't know, no one knows, the ultimate future of Iraq.

Marshall Plan?...wasn't that how they re-built their football team after the tragic plane crash in 1970? No? Ok, then I think it was a vital effort both for humanitarian and political priorities for America to rebuild Europe in order to keep the Rooskies confined to what they already had grabbed after the war.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:08 PM

Play it here!

http://sockandawe.com/

The laughing Chrisisall

ERIC

Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Play it here!

http://sockandawe.com/

Hey, there it is! The site wasn't working earlier- too busy probly. I scored a lucky 13. Note the US is the top Bush-shoeing country. USA! USA!

"Arguing against this crap is like explaining to a meth tweaker that the shadow people aren't real."
-Bob Cesca

GINOBIFFARONI

Friday, December 19, 2008 12:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Eric:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Play it here!

http://sockandawe.com/

Hey, there it is! The site wasn't working earlier- too busy probly. I scored a lucky 13. Note the US is the top Bush-shoeing country. USA! USA!

"Arguing against this crap is like explaining to a meth tweaker that the shadow people aren't real."
-Bob Cesca

Great Game Thanks...

Lets party like its 1939

GINOBIFFARONI

Friday, December 19, 2008 1:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
RIVERLOVE
Quote:
We occupied Germany & Japan for a few years too at one time. They came out of it pretty good, good enough to be democratic states now, and world economic leaders.
Do you recall the Marshall Plan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

After WWII, Europeans were slowly starving to death. Strikes and unrest gathered strength. Truman saw that peace depended on prosperity. So the Marshall Plan and the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration rebuilt European economies to pre-WWII levels. The USA also rebuilt Japan's economy to prewar levels, a fact not widely known. www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/cwr/91194.htm

This has NOT been our history in Iraq, so don't expect the same results!

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Let's party like its 1929.

May I suggest a book

http://www.amazon.com/Partners-Democracy-Crafting-Japanese-MacArthur/d
p/0195171764/ref=pd_sim_b_1

US policy in regard to Iraq and Afghanistan actually goes against much of what MacArthur managed to accomplish in Japan. Mind you, he did ignore the US government of the day to accomplish it.

Too bad there was no MacArthurs to tell Bush to piss off

Lets party like its 1939

SIGNYM

Friday, December 19, 2008 1:00 AM

Quote:
These things take time. You don't know, no one knows, the ultimate future of Iraq.

The "ultimate" future of Iraq??? Well... ultimately it'll be swallowed up by the sun, along with the rest of the earth. I don't think there is an "ultimate" future, for any nation.

Quote:
Ok, then I think it was a vital effort both for humanitarian and political priorities for America to rebuild Europe in order to keep the Rooskies confined to what they already had grabbed after the war.

In point of fact, the Marshall Plan was also offered to the Russians.

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Let's party like its 1929.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, December 19, 2008 3:13 AM

I don't hold so much respect for ole dougie boy given that he and georgie patton "made their bones" with the powers that be by kicking the shit out of pissed off vets exercising their rights to free speech and assembly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

S'why I laugh so derisively when soldiers talk about honor, respect, solidarity, etc etc...

Because once the powers that be are through with using you to push their agendas, and you are too old, too battered, or too fed up to be useful anymore, they have all the regard for you that one has for a used kleenex, and even less use for you.

Our Government has never, EVER, not once from it's very inception had an ounce of real respect for the castoffs and veterans of their money making machine - so what kind of moron would believe they do in spite of the claim being demonstrably false throughout their entire history ?
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

I might respect the courage of our vets, but I've always pitied their gullible stupidity, and as of late given that active duty armed forces are soon to be pitted against us, "for our own good" of course, have neither respect, nor pity, or even one ounce of mercy for them at this point in time.

Not one.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 19, 2008 8:10 PM

www.ThankYouForThrowingYourShoe.com

Quote:

White House press whore Dana Perino gets black eye

DANA PERINO: I don’t think that you can take one guy throwing his shoe as representative of the people of Iraq. And I will tell you that Prime Minister Maliki and the journalists who were there in the room, who apologized on behalf of the Iraqis, saying this is not how they would treat a guest.

QUESTION: But he wasn’t a guest. We’re occupiers.

PERINO: No, we’re not. We are absolutely a guest.

US troops escaped conviction for Haditha Massacre in Iraq
http://iraqsolidaritycampaign.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-many-my-lais-fe
licity-arbuthnot.html

Now the Shoe Conspiracy Coup investigation includes mass arrests. Tom Cruise movie in the works.
http://valkyrie.unitedartists.com

35 Iraqi officials arrested, accused of working to overthrow gov’t
www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?hp

KWICKO

Friday, December 19, 2008 10:40 PM

Quote:
I understand from your 18,957 posts that you hate Bush.

"Hate" is such a strong word. I wouldn't say I hateBush. Let's just say I dislike him.

With the white-hot intensity of a million exploding suns.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 19, 2008 11:25 PM

1,000 trial lawyers offered to defend him for free.

20-year-old brides are thrown at his feet.

The shoes have been destroyed: IF IT DOES NOT FIT YOU MUST AQUIT! PS: Don't confess!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jCzBPBSWhjoRO7vG85P
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Bush shoe protester has been beaten, Iraqi judge says
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/19/iraq-georgebush

US troops open fire on Iraqi protestors holding shoes
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/17/bush-shoes-iraqi-journali
st-hero

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:04 AM

Not just thrown at his feet, PN...

Ordinarily that would kinda wig me, but no shit mano...

She VOLUNTEERED.

Given how little choice of any kind women are given in those societies, that she did that and her father supported it, for a guy that risked his ass, his very life, to make a strong public statement against an oppressive occupiers main spokesman...

I say more power to her.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

PIRATENEWS

Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:47 AM

Hmmm....

Throw shoes at president, collect $10-million, marry harem of brides...

Pretty cunning, don't cha think?
-Jayne, The Message

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:52 AM

Hell, for that much I'd pop the disconnect switch on the prosthetic and throw the whole LEG at his ass!

Now there's a funny visual, innit ?

-F

KWICKO

Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Hell, for that much I'd pop the disconnect switch on the prosthetic and throw the whole LEG at his ass!

Now there's a funny visual, innit ?

-F

And I'd start a fund to get you a new bionic one to keep kicking ass with!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, December 20, 2008 8:33 AM

They don't come cheap, Mikey, we're talkin $45,000.00USD and up, for the ones I use.

Only reason I can get my hands on them at all instead of the cheap trash that I repeatedly wrecked one way or another is because...

A. I am on the design team.
B. I happen to be the test pilot.

I don't do myo or anything powered though, because if you lose power you're screwed, all the ones I work with have a backup of ability to function in a minimal capacity in rigid form if something breaks, and considering they're built out of high grade polymers, titanium and braced nickle-steel, that's a really uncommon thing to happen.

Also had some input on the exo-walker concept, but the japanese took it way further and better than we did - I could prolly have made some money (more likely just been ripped off by corpie lawyer firms) by holding out, but then it'd be *decades* before this stuff hits the market, and we got lots of kids coming back from Iraq who's armor saved their lives but not their limbs, and the faster we get them hooked up with replacements, the better off they'll be physically and mentally.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it