Abortion Gift Certificates for Christmas

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PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 5, 2008 3:12 AM

Planned Parenthood Abortion Gift Certificates for Christmas:

Kill your baby for Jesus, er, Molech
www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Abortion%20is%20Murder/gu
ilt.htm

In 2007, over 1-million children were murdered by medical doctors in USA. But that's part of the PLAN. Over 50-million genocided in USA so far. Gotta make room for 50-million illegal aliens.

Quote:
"The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. Using Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate would add another 216,000 deaths, for a total of 999,936 deaths annually. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US."
—Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; Dorothy Smith, PhD, Life Extension Magazine, Death by Medicine, March 2004 (plus 1.5-Million annual aborticides in USA)
www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

95% of the world population is scheduled for genocide ASAP:

Quote:
"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
-Ted Turner, founder of CNN News founder of CNN News who was paid $3-billion salary in one day
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/042808_ted_turner.htm

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ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:30 AM

Mr. News,

Please confine this to one thread, rather than spamming multiple threads with the same data.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Mr. News,

Please confine this to one thread, rather than spamming multiple threads with the same data.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

It's always relevant to mention aborticide and medmalmurders when anyone discusses death statistics, usually relating to guns and cars to "justify" police state death squads.

Are you afraid to comment on this Xmas genicide?

Do you support Xmas genocide?

Are you the Internet Police?

Otherwise stop spamming with non-comments.

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PIZMOBEACH

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:46 AM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Otherwise stop spamming with non-comments.

That's so funny it's not fair.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:56 AM

Jon Stewart Liebowitz's comments on this topic:

www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=212821&title=planned-pa
renthood-gift-cards
www.rackjite.com/archives/2412-Jon-Stewart-and-Planned-Parenthood-Gift
-Cards.html

ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:07 AM

Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

You are advocating nothing less than flesh and blood harvesting, enforced by Federal Death Squads. Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives. Then, after forcing them with Gestapo jackboot enforcers to provide their very lifeblood to keep someone else alive, you offer nothing to compensate them for that brutality.

Your narrow view of freedom is appalling to me. You want to keep the Federal Goon Squads off of your toes, but would insert their grubby hands into the very bodies of your mothers, sisters, and daughters. This is a most dangerous game you are playing at, and you need to rethink it.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:46 AM

Wow, that was harsh Anthony, although I would be a liar if I didn't say that was exactly my sentiments, in detail, on the topic.

If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.

That seems the saner, and more humane, course of action.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

AGENTROUKA

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:34 AM

Anthony, this beautifully sums up what this is really about for pro-choice people. Thank you.

KWICKO

Friday, December 5, 2008 12:48 PM

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If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.

Nah - that'd mean that they'd actually have to TALK to kids about sex, in something other than the "just say no" sense. Can't have that, can we? And what better message to give to your children? "Okay, Junior - it's time you knew about sex. It's where children come from, but it's evil. Don't do it. And don't ask how you got here, either. Mommy and Daddy are evil, and so are every other parent in the world, but don't you be evil."

And they wonder why their kids are so fucked in the head (and elsewhere) when it comes to sex...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 2:46 PM

"Wow, that was harsh Anthony"

Hello,

I'm sorry Frem. I try to use a softer shoe, usually, when treading contentious ground.

I must confess it is an emotional hotbutton issue for me when freedom fighters fight valiantly for freedoms... but only the ones they approve of. Those other freedoms, the ones they don't enjoy, they'd like to take away from the folks that have them.

For me, the Freedom to do what you want with your own body is at the top of the list.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, December 5, 2008 3:08 PM

Quote:
I must confess it is an emotional hotbutton issue for me when freedom fighters fight valiantly for freedoms... but only the ones they approve of. Those other freedoms, the ones they don't enjoy, they'd like to take away from the folks that have them.

How very ironic.

Considering that's one of the all time top five ways of pissin me off too.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BerserkButton

You know, we're a LOT alike, save for the fact that imma fucking barbarian.

RRRRARRRGHHH!

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 3:27 PM

LOL!

I don't know how I would describe myself. I'm not sure I have a historical allegory.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:32 PM

Killing your own children is freedom of choice, so cosmetic corporations and mad docs can cannibalize them for profit?

In your "old" age or with your premature 50% cancer rate, when denied food, water and medical treatment strapped down to your bed in a hospice death camp, remember your freedom of choice to kill the family that would've taken care of you for free. Or do you think Terri Shiavo was the exception to the Golden Rule of stealing pensions?

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Jews in Jerusalem killing their babies for Molech, before being captured into slavery in Babylon (Iraq)

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV

"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus 18:21-22, Christian Bible KJV

Bush Gang, Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller and Bush's cousin Obama performing "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot tall idol of Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Jewish Bohemian Grove. That's a "live" human body burning as it screams in agony over the loudspeakers. Photo copyright Bohemian Club Corporation annual yearbook

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HERO

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Do you support Xmas genocide?

I not fond of elves...

H

RUE

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:40 PM

PN

Have you ever considered you might benefit from medication ? No snark intended, just a thought you might want to mull over.

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Silence is consent.

HERO

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives.

How is that worse then raping them?

Besides, its the Constitution that says they don't have that choice. Thats why women can't have abortions after a particular point.

In Roe v. Wade the Court says that the State's interest in the life of the child outweighs the woman's right to choose. The court's ONLY concession to women is that the State's interest begins at viability, not conception (a line that should be moving as science pushes viability closer to conception).

H

RUE

Friday, December 5, 2008 4:56 PM

"Thats why women can't have abortions after a particular point."

Not completely true. Women CAN have abortions up to the last month of pregnancy under specific circumstances. There is a necessary balance struck between two lives, with the life of the mother taking precedence.

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Silence is consent.

ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:18 PM

"How is that worse then raping them?"

Hello,

Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

Nine months of violation is clearly a greater harm.

I will concede only this - if the removed fetus is capable of sustaining itself, then I have no problem with putting it into an adoption program instead of a biohazard bin.

Pirate - If these fetuses are all worth 50-250k dollars, then anti-abortion activists should be standing in front of Abortion Clinics with suitcases full of money and birthing contracts, rather than signs and pamphlets. I think you'll find that your mouth is writing checks that society won't cash.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

CHRISISALL

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:21 PM

Go AnthonyT!!!!

The he's-my-man Chrisisall

WULFENSTAR

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:27 PM

Ahhh...the perfect gift for your favorite whore this Christmas...

STORYMARK

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ahhh...the perfect for your favorite whore this Christmas...

I guess you'd know.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:40 PM

Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

You are advocating nothing less than flesh and blood harvesting, enforced by Federal Death Squads. Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives. Then, after forcing them with Gestapo jackboot enforcers to provide their very lifeblood to keep someone else alive, you offer nothing to compensate them for that brutality.

Your narrow view of freedom is appalling to me. You want to keep the Federal Goon Squads off of your toes, but would insert their grubby hands into the very bodies of your mothers, sisters, and daughters. This is a most dangerous game you are playing at, and you need to rethink it.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

anthonyT,

Very well put. Thank you.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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PIRATENEWS

Friday, December 5, 2008 5:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

Ambulances now kill you and harvest your organs, WITHOUT a signed contract for organ donation. $500,000 of scooped-out bodyparts is far more profitable than a $1,000 ambulance taxi. Doctors gotta pay their million-dollar mortagages for themselves and their companions.

Quote:
"Ethicists and emergency medicine experts are raising concerns over New York City's plan to dispatch the first ambulance service in the country equipped to preserve the organs of the newly deceased. They question whether the organ-preserving ambulances will create tension among EMTs who may be charged both to save lives and to preserve organs for reuse. The aim of the Rapid Organ Recovery Ambulance service, city officials say, is to buy precious time for families to decide whether they want their loved ones' organs to be donated to needy patients. New York City plans to start the service rolling within a month. And the plan, which has already received federal funding, is being eyed as a possibility by other emergency medical departments. The services provided by such ambulances -- namely, efforts to save the organs of the newly dead without direct consent -- have some concerns among some experts. 'Will raising organ donation follow pronouncement of death, or will people come to know that the organ donation ambulance has been sent, making them wonder if their relative got a full press of rescue care?' said Arthur Caplan, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. 'This is called violating the dead donor rule -- no organ donation [discussion] raised prior to pronouncement of death.' Far more troubling is the idea that emergency medical personnel staffing the ambulances could be faced with a dilemma of either doing everything possible to save a patient, or acting with the chief interest of saving organs. 'If it is an ambulance for the living or the dead, you run into an ethical dilemma,' O'Brien said. 'The ambulance has an obligation to the people of their service area to go back into service after a call, as soon as possible. This sounds like they may be tied up transporting and working on literally a deceased person, and not be available for others.' Mehlman adds that some may worry whether the responders on such an ambulance would be under any pressure to stop trying to revive a patient in order to begin saving his or her organs."
—Dan Childs, ABC News Medical Unit, Ethicists Debate Ambulance for Organs - Some Worry New York City Plan Could Give Living Patients the Short Shrift, May 9, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=4822866&page=1

Police death squad vampires suck blood on the side of a highway without a signed contract for consent.

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"AUSTIN, Texas (KXAN) -- Three days after Marble Falls police took their first driving while intoxicated suspect to the hospital armed with a search warrant for a blood draw, Seton Highland Lakes Medical Center in Burnet announced they will no longer adhere to the court order. "There were some issues," said Capt. Roger Sooter, with the Marble Falls Police Department. "But the draw was made, then we received the letter from the administrator." Seton Highland Lakes Medical Center Administrator, Scott Fuller, wrote a letter to city and county officials Oct. 6 that stated "effective immediately, the Highland Lakes Medical Center will not draw specimens under a search warrant. Please do not transport persons to the hospital for that purpose." Marble Falls police had just launched the new DWI blood warrant program for Burnet County. All county and district judges agreed to sign off on search warrants requiring a blood te

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RIVERLOVE

Friday, December 5, 2008 6:01 PM

Planned Parenthood is in quite a bit of trouble these days. Criminal investigations in several states. They are NOT reporting statutory rapes of underage girls to the authorities, which is a felony. Additionally, they are councilling these underage victims of statutory rape to seek abortions in neighboring states where parental notification is not required.

So rather than report that a 13 year old girl got pregnant by some 30 year old man, maybe a friend, maybe her brother, maybe her father...they don't care.....their agenda is:
1) get the abortion
2) here's some condoms for next time

It's downright sickening, 'cause then these girls go right back into the same bad situation that got them abused and knocked up in the first place. They are NOT looking out for the well-being of these underage rape victims. I expect to see PP indicted in several states, and ultimately perhaps a national debate whether $300 million of our tax dollars should continue to fund this criminally out of control organization.

THATWEIRDGIRL

Friday, December 5, 2008 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.

Nah - that'd mean that they'd actually have to TALK to kids about sex, in something other than the "just say no" sense. Can't have that, can we? And what better message to give to your children? "Okay, Junior - it's time you knew about sex. It's where children come from, but it's evil. Don't do it. And don't ask how you got here, either. Mommy and Daddy are evil, and so are every other parent in the world, but don't you be evil."

And they wonder why their kids are so fucked in the head (and elsewhere) when it comes to sex...

That's just crap. My parents were open and honest with me about sex and how to prevent pregnancy. My schools taught sex ed. I advocate talking about sex as soon as the child begins to notice the different sexes. Just because I'm against abortion does not mean I'm against condoms. I support adoption and single mothers/fathers. I volunteer for programs that assist young and/or single parents. I was a foster system approved baby sitter. Just because I don't want babies killed doesn't mean I'm against sex.

fyi. I'm a lifer all around. I'm against the death penalty too. I'm very vocal on human rights and torture. I'd prefer to never go to war and sacrifice young soldiers. I'm not a militant who pushes her agenda on her neighbors. If it comes up I simply offer my opinion. I've never turned my back on someone that chose abortion. I use charity to offer my support to those that choose life. It's a hard road to go down, I'm not naive, I just feel it's the best one.

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RUE

Friday, December 5, 2008 6:03 PM

"Ahhh...the perfect gift for your favorite whore this Christmas..."

Glad to see you got that word "gift" in there. I was wondering ... the perfect for your favorite whore ... perfect what ? The perfect martini ? The perfect card ? The perfect storm ?

That missing word was bothering me.

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Silence is consent.

ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:06 PM

"I'm not a militant who pushes her agenda on her neighbors. If it comes up I simply offer my opinion. I've never turned my back on someone that chose abortion. I use charity to offer my support to those that choose life. It's a hard road to go down, I'm not naive, I just feel it's the best one."

Hello,

I have a great deal of respect for those who promote their ideas unobtrusively, without trying to force them on others. Carry on.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

STORYMARK

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....

Sorry, I have no children. I was reffering to your mother.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....

Sorry, I have no children.

Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....

STORYMARK

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....

Sorry, I have no children.

Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....

I'll just stop and concede it - you have won the contest for who can be most vile.

Congratulations.

I don't know why I bother. Not really too concerned about the opinions of a bigot praying for a civil war. But you and PirateNews are made for each other.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WHOZIT

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:29 PM

Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:32 PM

I am always amazed at the anti-abortion crowd - when the most dominant voices are from men.... men should have no say what so ever in the reproductive rights of women....

WULFENSTAR

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Now, Story, dont speak about your daughter like that....

Sorry, I have no children.

Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....

I'll just stop and concede it.

Congratulations.

Appreciate you giving in with some dignity (or not, but who gives a fuck?).

Sometimes, I just HAVE to knock a little sense into the self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-alls, around here.

Keeps them humble, and gives them a little humility.

Anyways...

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

Is that supposed to be amusing? Because it is crass and disgusting.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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STORYMARK

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

Appreciate you giving in with some dignity (or not, but who gives a fuck?).

Sometimes, I just HAVE to knock a little sense into the self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-alls, around here.

Keeps them humble, and gives them a little humility.

Anyways...

Of course, you don't want someone stealing your title of king self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-all.

When your life is as pathetic as yours, you need to cling to whatever you can.

On a seperate note, bravo for perfectly exemplifying the rightie wingnut skill for selectively cherry picking quotes, when useing the entirety would reveal the assinine nature of your claims. Keep it up, and you'll unseat Rappy as the the chief wingnut douchebag in no time.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:40 PM

And here I was offering a truce...

WHOZIT

Friday, December 5, 2008 8:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

Is that supposed to be amusing? Because it is crass and disgusting.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

Many people think abortions are disgusting, thought I'm sure you do'nt respect there opinion. And YES it was suppose to be amusing!

I like dark humor.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

HERO

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

Nine months of violation is clearly a greater harm.

It might be a longer harm...but the question of "greater" requires an examination of the nature of the harm.

By your example having your arm chopped off is less of a harm then slowly pulling off a bandaid.

H

HERO

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
I'll just stop and concede it - you have won the contest for who can be most vile.

(Takes up the gauntlet)

The perfect gift for the man who has everything (wife, family, teenage mistress).

A dead baby today, a lifetime free of child support...

All the stemcells you can eat.

H

HERO

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

NO WIRE HANGERS, EVER!

H

WULFENSTAR

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:15 PM

What about...

The perfect gift for the 12 y/old ghetto hood-rat?

(And before you go all crazy...I knew 3 different girls growing up who either,

A. Had a baby at 12..

or

B. Had an abortion at that age.)

I also knew girls who treated abortions as another form of birth-contol.

One girl had 7 by the time she was 19...and she bragged about it. Its cus none of the "baby-daddi" were rich enough...

*sigh

Ahh, childhood...how I missed you growing up.

ANTHONYT

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:34 PM

Hello,

Hero,

Obviously not. Chopping off my arm would deprive me of that arm forever. The violation would be indefinite.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, December 5, 2008 9:49 PM

You know, I just thought I'd mention, there are services other than abortions available from Planned Parenthood. The vast range of birth control they offer is where the 'Planned' comes from. They offer pills, patches, shots, IUDs, diaphragms, and condoms. They also give exams and STD tests. I get my pills from them because it's the cheapest option available to me, and funny enough I haven't needed anything else from them.
I understand that in many people's mind 'Planned Parenthood' is synonymous with 'abortion' but I thought I should point out that, well, it isn't. I can't really see myself being given a gift card, but if I were, I'd use it to pay for my pills. And maybe, just maybe, most of their patrons would say the same.
I feel a bit too weary to get involved in the rest of this debate, except to say I have growing admiration for AnthonyT

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AGENTROUKA

Saturday, December 6, 2008 7:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

Nine months of violation is clearly a greater harm.

It might be a longer harm...but the question of "greater" requires an examination of the nature of the harm.

By your example having your arm chopped off is less of a harm then slowly pulling off a bandaid.

Which harm is bigger would ultimately depend on the opinion of the particular victim having to suffer through both. Women in the past have killed themselves to avoid both of these things, which should be enough of an indication that they are pretty damn bad.

I'm perfectly willing to say that I don't care which is the "greater" harm, but say that both are entirely unacceptable things to have to endure, so no one must ever be forced to.

As for your analogy, how about chopping your arm of vs. having it slowly killed over a period of months and then chopped off?
I wouldn't even be able to say which is worse in this case, but at least the violation implied is a lot more similar than mutilation vs bandaid. That's just an arrogant and thoughtless comparison.

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, December 6, 2008 8:49 AM

Phoenixrose ?

One thing I would not mind my tax dime funding, is free condoms for anyone above age of consent, if the religious whiners have an issue with that, no one is forcing them to take home a box so they can just whinge to themselves for all I care.

Hell, in my opinion we oughta make the trojan man a national hero and build statues in his honor - considering how many lives said product has saved, by preventing HIV transmission, STDs and unwanted pregnancies likely to be terminated, he *IS* a national hero, and worthy of that respect.

All together now -

TROJANNNNN MANNNNN!!!
*hums the theme song*

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

THATWEIRDGIRL

Saturday, December 6, 2008 11:45 AM

I remember giving HIV talks back in high school and kids being shocked that we would give them condoms and show them how to use them. My first college gave out free condoms to whomever needed them, no questions.

Yes, PP does offer a lot of other services. They are one of the best options for basic OBGYN care. Some PPs even have pediatric care for newborns and toddlers.

---
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
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WULFENSTAR

Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:17 PM

Thats all well and good. For those services Ive got nothing against PP...

However, they also toss out abortions like they do condomns.

Now, its not that I am against abortions, or those who provide them. I am against, as in my earlier post, using abortions as birth control.

When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life...

PP has their own agenda concerning birth control, make no mistake. However, for the most part, its one I agree with.

AGENTROUKA

Saturday, December 6, 2008 4:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Thats all well and good. For those services Ive got nothing against PP...

However, they also toss out abortions like they do condomns.

Now, its not that I am against abortions, or those who provide them. I am against, as in my earlier post, using abortions as birth control.

When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life...

I don't think anybody would be pleased with such a thing.

But what do you suppose should be done about people who use the option of abortion thoughtlessly? You can hardly take away their right to have one and mandated counseling or some such would hardly work without such an incentive. In the end, they are their own worst enemy, as abortions aren't exactly a walk in the park for a woman's body, either. It's the sad price of freedom that some people are free to make stupid choices. Worth it to me.

RUE

Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:11 PM

"When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life..."

True story - at least, told to me by the person who was there and claims it was true - back from the days of working in a county hospital ...

Woman comes in for an abortion, gets one, gets birth control counseling and a supply of pills ... comes in some time later for another abortion. --- Well, birth control isn't perfect, so she gets another abortion, gets birth control counseling again, with reminders that you need to use it every day, and a supply of pills ... And a while later comes in for her third abortion. At this point the clinic people figure either she is hitting the worst streak with her birth control or something is wrong. So they take her to a private room, go through all the questions and instructions again - you're not missing any days with these pills, are you ? And maybe doubling-up the next day and figuring you're good ? Nope - the woman says she is faithfully, every day using birth control. At the end the nurse thinks to ask - do you have ANY questions at all ? At which point, the woman rather abashedly asks - how do you get them to stay UP there ?

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WHOZIT

Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life..."

True story - at least, told to me by the person who was there and claims it was true - back from the days of working in a county hospital ...

Woman comes in for an abortion, gets one, gets birth control counseling and a supply of pills ... comes in some time later for another abortion. --- Well, birth control isn't perfect, so she gets another abortion, gets birth control counseling again, with reminders that you need to use it every day, and a supply of pills ... And a while later comes in for her third abortion. At this point the clinic people figure either she is hitting the worst streak with her birth control or something is wrong. So they take her to a private room, go through all the questions and instructions again - you're not missing any days with these pills, are you ? And maybe doubling-up the next day and figuring you're good ? Nope - the woman says she is faithfully, every day using birth control. At the end the nurse thinks to ask - do you have ANY questions at all ? At which point, the woman rather abashedly asks - how do you get them to stay UP there ?

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That has got to be an "Urban Ledgend"

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

SIGNYM

Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:34 PM

Quote:
Wow, that was harsh Anthony

No, it wasn't. You're mostly men. You have never been faced with an unexpected pregnancy which you may not be emotionally or economically prepared to deal with. (Even reliable birth control methods fail yanno.)

There are two statments which I think only women "get" which sum up the situation perfectly:

If men could get pregnant abortion would be a scarament

and

For Republicans, human life starts at conception and ends at birth

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Let's party like its 1929.

RUE

Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:49 PM

"That has got to be an "Urban Ledgend" "

If it is, it's over 30 years old, and started by my friend.

BTW, I sometimes wonder if art imitates life rather than the other way around. This IS a true story - been there, saw that:

Man comes into the ER (by cab) with an arrow stuck down through the top of his head. It was a case of "I shot an arrow into the air, It fell to earth, I knew not ... THUNK ! ... where ..."

Years later 'ER' - the show - had an episode about a man who came to the ER with an arrow stuck through the back of his head - done I presume for effect so he could talk face to face with the doctors and then turn around to dramatically reveal the problem.

That's one of the benefits of hospital work - you have a ton of stories to share with other people who do hospital work (because, frankly, no one else would understand). There are some serious downsides, though.

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ANTHONYT

Saturday, December 6, 2008 5:57 PM

Hello Signy,

It's important to note that you don't have to be a woman to appreciate the value of freedom.

I strongly support feminist arguments right up until the point that someone suggests men can't understand X subject.

I always think, "They can't? Wow, that kind of dooms the cause then, doesn't it?"

In fact, Yes we can. And many do.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

RUE

Saturday, December 6, 2008 6:08 PM

AnthonyT

I was surprised at your passion for unqualified freedom in all its forms. I do wonder where such feeling came from, b/c many people trim their beliefs to fit their benefit, their situation, and their biases. And when they don't trim, it's often in a conscious effort to be fair, but it lacks real feeling.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, December 6, 2008 6:12 PM

Hey AnthonyT- You clearly understand freedom. I appreciate that.

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RUE

Saturday, December 6, 2008 7:03 PM

For anyone who was wondering - the man with the (hunting arrow) arrow in his head was fine. It penetrated his skull by a few inches, but landed exactly in the empty spot between the two halves of the brain. It's why the story was funny and not tragic - it had a very happy ending.

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PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, December 6, 2008 7:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
TROJANNNNN MANNNNN!!!
*hums the theme song*

Hehe, indeed! I have long trusted the Trojan Man. It's unfortunate that I'm currently seeing someone who has, I found, a bit of a reaction to latex. Been hunting through alternatives since then, there's just nothing quite as good.

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
However, they also toss out abortions like they do condomns.

False. If that were true there would be baskets of abortion pills just sitting in the waiting room saying "Take one!" This is a supremely silly statement.

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
It's important to note that you don't have to be a woman to appreciate the value of freedom.

And there are women who don't believe in such freedom. I can't say I understand why anyone is so violently opposed to others being free to do something they don't agree with. Hell, I don't agree to drinking yourself stupid, but I don't think there should be a law against it.
Quite simply, telling a woman, any woman, that if she gets pregnant she loses control of her future, is not right. Some women want children, some very much. They want to devote themselves to that, and are ready. Some don't want it and aren't ready. And a life of a (presumably) full-grown woman, I think, is important. This quote seems pretty apt:

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
For Republicans, human life starts at conception and ends at birth

These women so many people want to push into having a child she doesn't want, in some cases a child that would endanger her life, a child that was heaven forbid conceived by force, a child she might resent... These women are a life, too.
Yes, clearly abortion should be the last resort, prevention should be used first and foremost. Several layers of it, even. Things happen, though, and frankly some people are just stupid. And if someone is so stupid they take no steps to prevent pregnancy and just get abortion after abortion, even though I think it's horrible, I think I'd prefer that to them actually breeding. Maybe that's wrong of me, but there's enough people in this world and far, far too many stupid ones.
On that note, I'll leave one last thought for y'all to chew on: The human race isn't going anywhere. We're prolific. We're even, likely, approaching a tipping point in population. More people may only compound the problems we have. I think it's much more important to focus on possible population problems than on how many people DON'T want a new little person in the world.

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ANTHONYT

Saturday, December 6, 2008 7:14 PM

Hello,

First, thanks ladies. I'm proud to stand with you on this issue.

But where does it come from?

I think I've been lucky.

Despite being born in the 40's, my Dad was about the most free-thinking 'conservative' you're ever likely to meet. He does carry some of the stereotypical values of old Cuban society, but I think for the most part he picked up on the better values while discarding the harmful ones. Cordiality, Hospitality, and a sense of Honor are three things that define him. He and I share a habit that some feminists would object to - opening a door for a woman - but he never imparted anything I consider negative. He taught me from a very young age that women were to be respected, and that they were our equals. He has always advocated for reproductive rights with an intensity that makes me wonder if, in some unspoken past incident, he knew someone who had been forced to pursue an extra-legal remedy to a pregnancy. He once described to me in detail how a 'back-alley' abortion might proceed, and the endless complications that could result.

My mother, meanwhile, was a sensitive woman who was keen on proper decorum. I think I can thank her for any language skills I have. But she was also enlessly creative, and encouraged me to be the same.

Besides being lucky for my parents, I was lucky for my schooling.

I've mentioned it perhaps too often recently, but I was beaten up fairly regularly in Middle School. While this gave me a great dislike for bullies, it also helped me to understand and sympathize with segments of our society that many of my middle-class bretheren were prone to ignore, stereotype, or marginalize. Even as I despised feeling weak and helpless, I was cognizant of the fact that those who were attacking me felt exactly as I did. They felt weak, helpless, and taken advantage of. I saw their actions as a misguided attempt to reclaim power and control in their lives. I learned to frown on the system that perpetuated this, rather than the people who were a product of it.

And I suppose with my parent's values, and the experience of being taken advantage of (and seeing others who were taken advantage of), I learned to place a great value on liberty. The idea of someone extending their will beyond their personal envelope, and smothering someone else with it, is abhorrent to me.

Of course, I'm not nearly as far on this road as someone like Frem. Or Piratenews. As much as I love freedom, I do believe that a system of rules has to be in place to protect it. And while I do believe that the Government tends to pour glue on the gears of efficiency, I sometimes think that private industry is willing to over-grease those same gears, even to the detriment of us all. I'm not sure I want to leave my destiny entirely in either of those hands.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

RUE

Saturday, December 6, 2008 7:57 PM

Thank you. I appreciate it.

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PIRATENEWS

Saturday, December 6, 2008 8:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Planned Parenthood is in quite a bit of trouble these days. Criminal investigations in several states. They are NOT reporting statutory rapes of underage girls to the authorities, which is a felony. Additionally, they are councilling these underage victims of statutory rape to seek abortions in neighboring states where parental notification is not required.

So rather than report that a 13 year old girl got pregnant by some 30 year old man, maybe a friend, maybe her brother, maybe her father...they don't care.....their agenda is:
1) get the abortion
2) here's some condoms for next time

It's downright sickening, 'cause then these girls go right back into the same bad situation that got them abused and knocked up in the first place. They are NOT looking out for the well-being of these underage rape victims. I expect to see PP indicted in several states, and ultimately perhaps a national debate whether $300 million of our tax dollars should continue to fund this criminally out of control organization.

Is there any reported link between Planned Parenthood and pedophile groups? NAMBLA etc.

Sounds suspicious to me.

Dick Cheney's indictment by grand jury in Texas last month was for abuse in his private prisons, with murders and rapes. Other Texas juvenile prisons were busted running pedophile sexslave operations, with judges, politicians and cops lining up to have sex with the children.

Texas Juvenile Detention Centers Cope With Charges of Rape, Abuse
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265924,00.html

Texas Youth Prison Sex Scandal Hearings
www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/9/183557/6373
www.hongpong.com/archives/2007/03/28/late_breaking_upcoming_texas_yout
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WH/Justice Dept Coverup Pedophilia Cases

By Wayne Madsen, National Security Agency
3-27-7

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' 'loyal Bushie' U.S. Attorney for Western Texas covered up a major pedophile scandal with the connivance of the Justice Department's Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, already under pressure for firing several U.S. Attorneys not considered "loyal Bushies," now faces another scandal. Albert Moskowitz, the Chief of the Criminal Section of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, sent a letter dated September 27, 2005, to the Superintendent of the Texas Youth Commission's West Texas State School youth detention facility declining the prosecution of two of the Texas agency's employees -- Ray Brookins and John Hernandez -- for engaging in sexual molestation of 10 underage males incarcerated at the facility. The charges of molestation were originally brought by Texas Ranger Brian J. Burzynski. Earlier, in a July 28, 2005 letter, the Assistant US Attorney for West Texas, Bill Baumann, who works for US Attorney Johnny Sutton, a close friend of Gonzales, sent a letter to Burzynski declining federal prosecution in the pedophile case. In a decision that indicates that the Gonzales Justice Department defines child molestation in very narrow and high threshold terms, Baumann wrote that the young men at the West Texas facility that claimed they were raped by Brookins and Hernandez did not sustain "bodily injury" or "bodily pain." Baumann also defined aggravated sexual assault as resulting from a "perpetrator knowingly causing his victim to engage in a sexual act (which can include contact between the mouth and penis) by force against the victim or by threatening or placing the victim in fear that the victim (or any other person) will be subjected to death, serious bodily injury or kidnapping). Baumann stated, "I do not believe that sufficient evidence exists to support a charge that either Brookins or Hernandez used force to cause victims to engage in a sexual act."

Astonishingly, Baumann also writes that "none of the victims admit they consented to the sexual contact" with the juvenile facility employees. However, Baumann then suggests that the

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FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, December 6, 2008 9:27 PM

You'd be stunned at what USDOJ, The FBI, and formerly US Customs cover up related to this, PN.

Go dig into what happened to Marcus Lawson over the Landslide, inc. case - as a prime example.

Anything dealing with incarcerative, residential, or foster care in this country is so utterly rife with abuse that it's just plain mindblowing, and like the Catholic Church at one time, getting folk to accept and understand this is near impossible due to the scale not fitting into their worldview and being filed in with "conspiracy theory" as a result, even when hard evidence exists that many high level politicians are directly connected with it.

I mean, look how HARD they danced around the fact that many of the "prostitutes" Abramoff was providing weren't old enough to possess a learners permit, much less a drivers license.

And I care little for the ACLU since they've made it pretty clear that while willing to go to nearly any lengths to protect the predators, they've absolutely no concern for the victims, since they're of no financial or political use - that annoys the hell out of me since it's like saying they don't have the right to be safe, in the eyes of the ACLU.

Nor NCMEC, who are semi-reluctant players in this, not allowed to rock the boat TOO much save in a high profile case the media is hounding them for, or be cut off from any support - the FBI and Customs shovelled the job THEY are being paid for onto them and then funnelled those budgets into other projects, unconcerned that the involvement of civilian volunteers poisons the chain of custody and makes prosecution near impossible not to mention adding their zealotry and biases to a prosecution already complicated by the mental and psychological blind spots of a populace that until very recently was quite happy and willing to dismiss this whole issue as urban legend, and given ANY excuse to disbelieve, will take it despite any other evidence presented.

I ask you this - calculate how many kids go missing in this country, then tabulate the physical VOLUME that entails, and compare it with how few are actually recovered...

And ponder how that would actually make any sense.

Or, more to a real-world point, consider what happens when they DO get one of these kids in court, horribly abused, and then called a liar and manipulator (Gee, thanks a lot Sembler and Lichfield), disbelieved, punished and treated like a social pariah, ultimately destroyed not by the abuse itself, but by societies justification and defense thereof, at their own expense, and then cast aside as human wreckage, unneeded and unwanted.

At which point, when I find them, I enlist them.

Believe me, I've no shortage of folks with fanatic loyalty thanks to that, but fanaticism carries it's own problems and such folk must always be held rigidly to the ROE now matter how it chafes them.

Otherwise they spend the rest of their foreshortened and unpleasant lives getting even on a society they blame entire for the personal hell their life then became.

http://www.protect.org

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

PIRATENEWS

Sunday, December 7, 2008 12:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Planned Parenthood is in quite a bit of trouble these days. Criminal investigations in several states. They are NOT reporting statutory rapes of underage girls to the authorities, which is a felony. Additionally, they are councilling these underage victims of statutory rape to seek abortions in neighboring states where parental notification is not required.

So rather than report that a 13 year old girl got pregnant by some 30 year old man, maybe a friend, maybe her brother, maybe her father...they don't care.....their agenda is:
1) get the abortion
2) here's some condoms for next time

It's downright sickening, 'cause then these girls go right back into the same bad situation that got them abused and knocked up in the first place. They are NOT looking out for the well-being of these underage rape victims. I expect to see PP indicted in several states, and ultimately perhaps a national debate whether $300 million of our tax dollars should continue to fund this criminally out of control organization.

Speak of the devil, in the news today, on video:
www.metacafe.com/watch/2113345/indiana_planned_parenthood_covers_up_se
xual_abuse_of_13_year_old/

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Indiana Planned Parenthood Suspends Nurse Taped by Pro-life Activist Posing as 13-Year-Old

December 05, 2008

Planned Parenthood of Indiana has suspended a staff member at its Bloomington, Ind., clinic after a pro-life student group posted a video online that allegedly shows the nurse advising a pro-life activist who is posing as a 13-year-old girl. On the video, the activist suggests that she is pregnant and that the father of the child may be 31 years old.

“In the state of Indiana, when anyone has had intercourse and they are age 13 and younger--” says the nurse on the video.

“I’m almost 14,” says the activist.

“It doesn’t matter,” says the nurse.

“Okay,” says the activist.

“You are 13 – it has to be reported to Child Protective Services. Okay, I didn’t hear the age. I don’t want to know the age,” says the nurse.

“Okay,” says the activist.

In a statement issued Wednesday, Betty Cockrum, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood of Indiana, said the staff member was suspended and an investigation is being conducted into the matter.

“Today, we were made aware of a video that has been posted on the Internet that features a staff member from our Bloomington health center,” Cockrum said.

“We are deeply concerned about the content of the video. While we cannot be certain whether this video has been altered, the apparent actions of the employee would be in violation of our strict policies and procedures,” she said.

“Therefore, a thorough internal investigation of this matter has begun, and the employee has been put on an immediate, unpaid suspension. Further disciplinary action will be taken if warranted by the investigation,” Cockrum added.

“Planned Parenthood of Indiana is committed to following all state laws while providing high-quality health care,” Cockrum said. “We are immediately reinforcing all of our policies and procedures with the staff members of our 35 health centers to ensure that the high standards we demand continue to be met with every patient we see.”

The video was taped and produced by Live Action, a pro-life group of college students. Lila Rose, 20, is a student at the University of California-Los Angeles and founder and president of the all-volunteer group, which did not release all of the footage filmed at the Indiana clinic.

The edited video includes music and a transcription of the conversation between the Planned Parenthood nurse, Rose, and another student, both of whom posed as 13-year-old girls when they visited the clinic in June. (See transcript below).

Transcript from Live Action video from June 2008:

Planned Parenthood (PP): “Have you had a positive pregnancy test? OK. And missed a period?”

Rose: “Couple of periods.”

PP: “A couple periods, OK.”

PP: “OK, How old are you?”

Rose: “I’m 13.”

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RUE

Sunday, December 7, 2008 12:56 AM

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR_2007_vFinal.pdf

Nationally Planned Parenthood and its chapters saw 3,140,540 patients in 2006.

They provided 10,500,000 services: male and female contraception; male and female sterilization; STD and HIV testing; breast exams; PAP smears and colposcopies (cervical biopsies); cervical cancer treatments; pregnancy tests, prenatal care, adoptions, WIC care, immunizations and pediatric care; menopausal care and infertility treatments; primary health care ... and 289,750 abortions, or 2.8 percent of all services provided.

Of those, there are a handful of cases (or fewer) where employees did not follow Planned Parenthood policies.

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WHOZIT

Sunday, December 7, 2008 1:33 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR_2007_vFinal.pdf

Nationally Planned Parenthood and its chapters saw 3,140,540 patients in 2006.

They provided 10,500,000 services: male and female contraception; male and female sterilization; STD and HIV testing; breast exams; PAP smears and colposcopies (cervical biopsies); cervical cancer treatments; pregnancy tests, prenatal care, adoptions, WIC care, immunizations and pediatric care; menopausal care and infertility treatments; primary health care ... and 289,750 abortions, or 2.8 percent of all services provided.

Of those, there are a handful of cases (or fewer) where employees did not follow Planned Parenthood policies.

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Sterilizations, PAP smears, abortions, cervical cancer teatments, only a handful? Thank God, I'm sure they're happy to hear that. Have a bagel.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

RUE

Sunday, December 7, 2008 1:48 AM

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR_2007_vFinal.pdf

Nationally Planned Parenthood and its chapters saw 3,140,540 patients in 2006.

They provided 10,500,000 services: male and female contraception; male and female sterilization; STD and HIV testing; breast exams; PAP smears and colposcopies (cervical biopsies); cervical cancer treatments; pregnancy tests, prenatal care, adoptions, WIC care, immunizations and pediatric care; menopausal care and infertility treatments; primary health care ... and 289,750 abortions, or 2.8 percent of all services provided.

Of those, there are a handful of cases (or fewer) where employees did not follow Planned Parenthood policies.

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WHOZIT

Sunday, December 7, 2008 2:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR_2007_vFinal.pdf

Nationally Planned Parenthood and its chapters saw 3,140,540 patients in 2006.

They provided 10,500,000 services: male and female contraception; male and female sterilization; STD and HIV testing; breast exams; PAP smears and colposcopies (cervical biopsies); cervical cancer treatments; pregnancy tests, prenatal care, adoptions, WIC care, immunizations and pediatric care; menopausal care and infertility treatments; primary health care ... and 289,750 abortions, or 2.8 percent of all services provided.

Of those, there are a handful of cases (or fewer) where employees did not follow Planned Parenthood policies.

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I'm sure that the few who's PAP smears were screwed up said, "hey no big deal, have a bagel" How many mistakes does PP have to have before a Senate Investigation? Oh that's rite, the Democrats rule now. All of PP mistakes will be ignored by the Democrats whores in the press.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

RUE

Sunday, December 7, 2008 3:01 AM

Based on your experience, which appears to be limited to bagels, we have deemed you not qualified to comment on sex involving humans.

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WULFENSTAR

Sunday, December 7, 2008 3:09 AM

"Have a bagel"...

Dude, that shit is fucking awesome/hilarious...

WHOZIT

Sunday, December 7, 2008 1:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Based on your experience, which appears to be limited to bagels, we have deemed you not qualified to comment on sex involving humans.

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I will not comment on the relationship between a man and his bagel.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin