Bombay, India, attacked by violent thugs w/ guns, explosives
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UPDATED: Thursday, November 13, 2025 16:12
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Hello,
Perhaps you and I hear different things when they talk.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
Perhaps you and I hear different things when they talk.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
Well, there's what they say, and then there is also what they DO! My point ? When you first heard there were multiple attacks by terrorist in Bombay , India, on Western hotels and places of interest, was there any hesitation in your mind who was behind it ? Seriously, was there any doubt that it wasn't radical Islamist ?
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Hello,
It's funny you should ask. When I first heard about the attacks in India, I wondered what sort of political turmoil had inspired them. The first details were sketchy, and I only knew that places had been invaded by gunmen and assaulted.
It was only when I heard that Westerners were being specifically targeted that I expected radical Islamist groups would be to blame.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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I don't really think we'll know the 'whys' of this for a long time, if ever. I am assuming that the 'terrorists' are well trained, possibly military, possible secret service of another country. Too well planned, too much ammo for a terrorist cell, this has someone big behind it. Doesn't really smell of Al Quaeda either, but who knows.
Foreigners, Brits, Americans, Australians, other Europeans are targetted simply because the news coverage becomes more intense. If it were just 60 dead Indians at a railway station, it would be fleeting across the front page in most countries other than India.
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Hello,
I think that terrorists are absolutely capable of this kind of mayhem. It doesn't take a genius to plan an attack that results in the death of your entire force. As for ammo use or equipment, I've seen Bank Robberies in California that used nearly as much.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
You seem under the mistaken impression that I believe our corporate fuckery excuses this shit.
Nope, I just wonder what evidence you have that corporate fuckery caused this shit - was the prime motive for the attacks.
I can see it being somewhere in the laundry list of justifications which are usually issued by the perps, down there with daring to educate women and shelving the Koran under other books in the library. But major reason? I've seen nothing to convince me.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Oh it wasn't the prime motive, Geeze, not for a moment do I believe it was, none of that shit ever is, to be honest.
But it was a handy excuse, and one we really should stop handing out if possible.
See, the folks sending these guys out to die after driving them into a rabid frenzy, do you really think they're all that different than any other politician who uses hate and fear to gain power ?
That's why I bust Rappy's chops so hard.
The guys behind this, they don't really *believe* that shit they're shovelling, no more than ole Rotten Limberger or Ann Clueless do, it's just manipulative rhetoric to get the ignorant clueless all riled up so you can aim them at your target, and that is ALL IT IS to them.
So while the "radical islamic" breed of these creeps goes on with a distorted version of Islam and uses "abuses of the west" and "corporate fuckery" to rile them up and then some kind of religious "them or us" rhetoric to send them out to die fighting those "murderous jews/christians"...
The "religious right" breed goes on about "terrorism" and "radical islam" with a distorted version of Christianity to rile theirs up and the "threat of islamic jihad" with a side order of the very self-same racism and intolerance in their own rhetoric to send fools on this end out to die fighting those "evil arab jihadis"...
And neither one of them gives a rats ass about the sodders they're sending out to die, and gives naught more than lip-service to whatever bullshit they're shovelling to manipulate people stupid and ignorant enough to fall for it.
And those who are, to me they've prettymuch surrendered any right to be treated as a rational human being because they volunteered to be the bullets of tyrannys guns, you see.
This is about power, and control, all the rest of this shit is just that, crap and excuses shovelled by folks who exploit people too stupid to see through their flimsy tissue of hypocrisy and lies.
And once you understand that, it becomes almost easy to shovel sand in the gears - witness just how *easily* I wound Rappy up here just by using "trigger" keywords he's practically programmed to jump to, and caused him to both blatantly misread my argument and get all foamy-angry at me for AGREEING with the idea that the folks behind this need to die.
Once you truly understand where all the gears, buttons and levers in the heads of these folks are, and what they do - it becomes simplicity itself to do your own level of manipulation provided one can see past their own prejudices to the core of the issue.
I've described in rather exacting detail to Jongstraw before how to accomplish exactly that, and given the proper resources and some cooperation from those handing out such easy excuses unknowing or uncaring, yes, I really *could* get their own people to rip them limb from limb.
Because I know *exactly* how the game works, how to play it, and how to stack the deck in my favor every time simply by pushing the right buttons of the drones.
And that's why I have so little respect for those tasked to handle these problems, who spend most of their time screwing their protectees instead, cause at the root of it, they're absolutely incompetent and every bit as blinded by their own stupid ignorance as the drones, making them utterly ineffective at their intended assignment if not directly counterproductive to it.
And the assholes both in the west, and the middle east, setting the clueless on each other ?
They don't wanna win, cause that would end the game, they *NEED* each other to rile folk up against and at the very heart of it, they're exactly the fucking same.
And if any of the clueless ever realized that, took my advice and refused to comply - they'd just be one more ineffective loudmouth in a world where such are a dime a dozen.
I don't blame them, I blame the morons who listen to them, and hand over their free will, their mind heart and soul, even their life itself, for no more purpose than to further some assholes agenda, which if they ever for a moment considered rationally,
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The "religious right" breed goes on about "terrorism" and "radical islam" with a distorted version of Christianity to rile theirs up and the "threat of islamic jihad" with a side order of the very self-same racism and intolerance in their own rhetoric to send fools on this end out to die fighting those "evil arab jihadis"...
That only works for those who completely ignore what's been going on around the world, in France, Germany, Netherlands, just to name a few. Sorry, doesn't pass the 'sniff' test.
And as for all those 'religious righties ' you love to clamor on about, try telling Christopher Hitchens that he's one of the Falwell, Robertson fan club, and that's the only reason he's supporting Bush for seeing the Islamic fascist for who they really are.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
I think that terrorists are absolutely capable of this kind of mayhem. It doesn't take a genius to plan an attack that results in the death of your entire force. As for ammo use or equipment, I've seen Bank Robberies in California that used nearly as much.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
I didn't mean to imply that they weren't terrorists, but were something more than your average cell of fanatics that gets funded by whoever. There has been speculation that the gunmen are connected to the Pakistan secret service. Whatever, its too soon to find out the motives behind this sort of attack. Perhaps the truth will be illusive for some time.
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I dunno, the way the supposed Pakistani ISI connection was pushed so hard long before any credible evidence could have possibly been obtained makes me suspicious.
Besides, having recently seen some intel-quality photos of some of the dead perps, I am unconvinced.
In fact, from the tactics to the standard of equipment this doesn't fit MAK, Al Qeada or the Mujihideen, and lookin at the stiffs my best guess would be the RSS, a pack of homebrewed ultra-nationalist assholes.
Also, waiting for confirmation, but some of those stiffs were apparently caucasian, I'd put em at UK, or at least european in origin, but I wanna make doubly sure someone didn't get confused and those are victims, not perps before I call that one.
If so, that does push it more likely this was RSS although such extremes are a bit of a departure from their normal operations, possibly an extremist sect - there's a couple telltales I am not yet willing to share which do favor that conclusion.
I guess we'll see - but I am unconvinced these jerks were muslim extremists till I actually see some evidence for it, and the evidence against it is somehow discredited.
My bet: Splinter group of RSS extremists.
Any takers ?
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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