Bombay, India, attacked by violent thugs w/ guns, explosives
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Oh, wait! They represent the the religion of PEACE! Who would have guessed that one ?
Targeting Americans, Brits and Jews.
Quote:
Dozens Die in Mumbai Attacks
Hotels Under Siege; Gunmen Said to Target Americans, Britons
Terrorists Target India
U.S. officials say they do not know who is behind the deadly terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India. Since 2003, more than 600 people have died in India as a result of terrorism. Bob Orr reports.
By Rama Lakshmi
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, November 27, 2008; Page A01
NEW DELHI, Nov. 27 -- Gunmen attacked three luxury hotels, a hospital, a train station, a movie theater and other buildings in Mumbai late Wednesday, killing at least 100 people and wounding more than 300 in a rampage through India's financial capital, police said. The attackers took dozens of people hostage, and witnesses said they were seeking out Americans and Britons. An unknown group asserted responsibility in e-mails to India's news media.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/11/27/ST200811
2700008.html
( And incidentally, if you're wondering, I saw a Indian t.v. reporter refer to the city as 'Bombay', so Bombay it is )
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Hello,
Who represents the religion of peace?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Maybe if certain corporations hadn't crapped on India so hard, they'd not be so pissed about it, and I doubt our more recent actions in the middle east have made us any friends either.
BUT - taking it out on tourists is just as unacceptable as shelling whole neighborhoods.
If they'd constrained their attacks to the assets and personnel of the corporations or governments they felt had shafted em, while still a reprehensible way to go about it, it might have been something one could understand.
This is not - the arbitrary killing of folks uninvolved simply due to race, nationality or belief system is wrong no matter *who* does it.
And so, I'd like some heads, and like I said on Sept 12 2001, I want THE RIGHT DAMNED ONES, not no willy-nilly rush into another fucking disaster we ain't got the troops or resources to waste on.
Grab some of those NSA folk so busy spying on vegetarians and pacifists, or HELPING cook up and support domestic terror plots and wring em out by the balls till they get the goddamn message to DO THEIR GODDAMN JOB for once - find out who and where these bastards are, instead of fucking over their supposed protectees all day long instead.
Find out, cross confirm it, and keep a goddamn LID on it instead of shovelling shit for PR points with the media.
And then contract it out to some locals, police, army, milita, whatever - that want some ass too and ain't too concerned about the niceties, and you tell them where exactly the bastards are.
And then pretend to know absolutely nothing when folks point the finger at us, just smile nice and wide and claim innocence, while staring viciously at anyone who supported these bastards.
The message will get around, believe it.
MUCH cleaner, clearer and more effective than blowing half the damn country up, killing and torturing everyone BUT the primary target and enraging half the planet at us while failing to make ANY progress at the supposed objective.
Above all things, I loathe incompetence.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Quote:You used alot of words to blame this on "Corporations", favorite target of the left. Would it be stupid to blame this all on "Islamist Terrorists from Pakistan"? Or sould I give you a 500 essay full of misspelled words? You know I have a small brain and can't spellz goood.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Maybe if certain corporations hadn't crapped on India so hard, they'd not be so pissed about it, and I doubt our more recent actions in the middle east have made us any friends either.
BUT - taking it out on tourists is just as unacceptable as shelling whole neighborhoods.
If they'd constrained their attacks to the assets and personnel of the corporations or governments they felt had shafted em, while still a reprehensible way to go about it, it might have been something one could understand.
This is not - the arbitrary killing of folks uninvolved simply due to race, nationality or belief system is wrong no matter *who* does it.
And so, I'd like some heads, and like I said on Sept 12 2001, I want THE RIGHT DAMNED ONES, not no willy-nilly rush into another fucking disaster we ain't got the troops or resources to waste on.
Grab some of those NSA folk so busy spying on vegetarians and pacifists, or HELPING cook up and support domestic terror plots and wring em out by the balls till they get the goddamn message to DO THEIR GODDAMN JOB for once - find out who and where these bastards are, instead of fucking over their supposed protectees all day long instead.
Find out, cross confirm it, and keep a goddamn LID on it instead of shovelling shit for PR points with the media.
And then contract it out to some locals, police, army, milita, whatever - that want some ass too and ain't too concerned about the niceties, and you tell them where exactly the bastards are.
And then pretend to know absolutely nothing when folks point the finger at us, just smile nice and wide and claim innocence, while staring viciously at anyone who supported these bastards.
The message will get around, believe it.
MUCH cleaner, clearer and more effective than blowing half the damn country up, killing and torturing everyone BUT the primary target and enraging half the planet at us while failing to make ANY progress at the supposed objective.
Above all things, I loathe incompetence.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin
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Hello,
Living in a Capitalist country, I recognize that money is a primary motivator for everything that we do.
When we meddle, it is likely to have a money motive.
Corporations are frequently at the profit end of that money motive.
It stands to reason that when people are angered at our meddling, a Corporation is somewhere at the root.
That having been said... I say find the terrorists that arranged this, dismantle their organizations, and slit their throats. If they can't be bothered to get their targets right, I can't be bothered to find any compassion for their point of view.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Maybe if certain corporations hadn't crapped on India so hard, they'd not be so pissed about it, and I doubt our more recent actions in the middle east have made us any friends either.
Where'd you get this interpretation of the motive for the atacks?
I've seen suggestions of Islamists, or the Pakistani IMI trying to cause trouble for their elected government, but nothing to indicate any attack on Americans and Brits was bad business practice related. Also doesn't explain the attack on the Jewish outreach center.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Um....no. They make jobs, Terrorist like the mass's poor and hugery so they can tell the mass's that they are poor and hungery BEACUSE of corporations. This is how the KKK and Hitler got there power, they told the poor the reason they were poor was because of the Black and the Jews etc. Terrorists use corporations as the 21st century villian.
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
Living in a Capitalist country, I recognize that money is a primary motivator for everything that we do.
That having been said, when we meddle, it is likely to have a money motive.
Corporations are frequently at the profit end of that money motive.
It stands to reason that when people are angered at our meddling, a Corporation is somewhere at the root.
That having been said... I say find the terrorists that arranged this, dismantle their organizations, and slit their throats. If they can't be bothered to get their targets right, I can't be bothered to find any compassion for their point of view.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin
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Hello,
I have no trouble understanding that corporations do provide jobs, and infrastructure, and all manner of good things. I also have no trouble understanding that wars are often fought in the name of corporate profit.
I have no trouble understanding that manipulators will paint any convenient organization or group as the villain in order to motivate people by using hate. I also have no trouble understanding that corporations are not simple beacons of hope, but that they also exploit foreign governments and peoples.
Why must people choose a side and put on blinders?
--Anthony
P.S. In regards to Geezer's commentary, this does appear to be Islamic militants possibly from Pakistan. Which by neat circle brings us round about to why they want to target Westerners? The answer to which is... We meddle. That they also targeted Jewish people requires no deep understanding or logic leap.
P.P.S. Before some unlearned individual posits that understanding why someone might do this is equal to supporting the act, please eject your cranium from your anal recess.
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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You seem under the mistaken impression that I believe our corporate fuckery excuses this shit.
It don't.
We *have* stuck it to them via Coca-Cola, Unocal, Union Carbide and others, but also with the gleeful assistance of their own Govt, happily willing to exploit it's own people for a chunk of the take, and being overall substantially more corrupt than ours.
But they didn't strike at the corps, or the Gov, they struck at the innocent, and that I do consider a revolting act of pure terrorism which is by any means inexcusable.
And thus I am completely down with slitting the throats of the bastards responsible, but I wanna make damn sure we got the right guys when we do it, so the correct message is sent - we go off half cocked again and start killin and torturing all the wrong folk it's not gonna do anything but just piss more of the world off at us.
Make SURE of it, and then kill them via proxy in the messiest possible way, make it abundantly clear what price will be extracted, and by preference, do it through their own people and/or intelligence services.
The perps in question being ripped limb from limb by a mob of angry locals, in public, would do far more to forestall future incidents of this nature than any ham-fisted halfassery of the type we've practiced so far.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Frem
This has ZERO to do with " evil " corporations. It has every thing to do with muslim zealots hating freedom, feeling slighted and left behind in the 1st millenium, and inferior. Stop trying to explain away the mindless violence by the followers of Islam.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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