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An example of denial- NeoCons will love this....

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

In our society children are non-human, non-persons, with less rights and status than livestock, something I have pointed out, and railed about, time and time again, without ever seeming to get it across.


If I ever seemed not to get your point Frem, then I wasn't being clear.
I totally and completely agree with you.

aswellisall

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And in true NeoCon form, he doesn't see his role in his boy's death, as AUDobson said in another thread, "Accidents happen."
Iraq Wars happen too.



Any evidence this man is actually a neo-con, or just more of the usual unsubstantuated assumption?

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This man was pushed by our violent society to teach his young boy about Israeli sub machine guns, I guess.

Any evidence of this, or just...well, you know

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Is life so expendable that we can just write this kind of thing off as an 'accident'???

If you'd bothered to read the other thread about this incident, you'd know that no one here is just writing this off as an accident.

I suspect the father is talking like he does in a - probably vain - attempt to avoid a whole shit-load of guilt coming down inside his head. He'll have to live with this the rest of his life, and probably with some sort of justly applied legal reprecussions.

Imagine how many times a year folks die because someone can't wait to get off the road to text their buddy about some meaningless crap. Are they all neo-cons too?




"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
If you'd bothered to read the other thread about this incident, you'd know that no one here is just writing this off as an accident.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Accidents happen

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McCain/Palin: The first presidential ticket that features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:28 PM

You're rite, Jewish Republicans would love this..........SHUT UP CHRIS!!

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it Peter Griffin

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:


Imagine how many times a year folks die because someone can't wait to get off the road to text their buddy about some meaningless crap. Are they all neo-cons too?

Yes, invariably.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
SHUT UP CHRIS!!


Touche'.

isall

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
fucking idiots

BTW, why so riled, Kirk? I was targeting NeoCons with the anger- I never thought of you as one...are you?
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If the child had been yanked out of the womb at eight months and flushed down the toilet

Interesting side note, at an average 4 3/4 pounds, and over 17 inches in length, an eight month old fetus would certainly not make it down a toilet with a drainage aperture of less than 3 inches, sort of seating your hypothetical in the 'dumass' section, no?

Chrisisall

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:54 PM

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...and probably with some sort of justly applied legal reprecussions.


I'm wondering just what kind of legal case anyone is going to have regarding this incident. There was a certified range safety officer present, as required, there was parental consent, as required, and I've no doubt that everyone handling the weapons had to sign a waiver in advance, as is standard practice to guard the range and its people against liability.

What probably WILL happen will be that a minimum age will be demanded at such events in the future, but that doesn't become retroactive to before this event happened. Or such events will be banned outright. As with most tragedies, the laws get changed BECAUSE there was an accident, not BEFORE there was one.

But I agree, Geezer - that kid's father, whether he shows it on TV or not, is in fact in hell right now. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he shoots himself within the year.

Mike

PS: Try not to hate the kid's father too much; he's already got enough bad shit in his life right now, and there's nothing we can do to him that's worse than he's doing to himself.

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Sunday, November 2, 2008 12:42 AM

I know you do understand the principle of it, Chris...

But that gentle slap in there for you, you should not ignore either - look within and tell me you haven't started to file folk you disagree with in a nonperson category, and with me sitting here watching it happen to you.

That's how it starts, you see.

And it's a bad, bad road to travel, cause once you have filed them as "other", you then begin to fear them, hate them, and not for their actions anymore, just that they are "other" - the same road THEY travelled down, once upon a time, until fear, misery and violence consumed them utterly.

Were we face to face, that slap would not have been metaphoric, nor so gentle.

Beware the darkside, Son.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Sunday, November 2, 2008 12:58 AM

It was not a "gun show" if anyone was shooting guns. Bullets are not allowed in gun shows.

Sounds like a gun club firing range, where you pay to rent a gun from the owner of the store.

On the same page of the website:

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Mother, Son Killed While Trick-Or-Treating

WESTFIELD, Mass. -- A mother and her 9-year-old son were struck and killed while trick-or-treating on Halloween, Westfield police said.

Both were wearing dark clothing and walking on a street with dark sidewalks when they were struck by a Toyota, Westfield Sergeant Brian Boldini said.

Roberta A. Salois, 47, was taken to Noble hospital where she was pronounced dead. Her 9-year-old son, Steven X. Smith-Salois, was taken to Baystate Medical Center, where he died.

The driver of the Toyota, Anne R. Schlichtig, 26, of Westfield, was questioned by police.

She was driving on South Maple Street just after 8 p.m., when her car struck the mother and child.

Police said they will determine if charges will be filed.

www.thebostonchannel.com/mostpopular/17864068/detail.html



BAN LIBERALS ON HALLOWEEN!

After all, jack-o-lanterns represent murdered children as tallow for the candles, to worship Satan.
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