A blow for Palin fans everywhere....
POSTED BY: MrBlueSun
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 18:46
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Suck the blood from your fellow Americans' veins & call for more, you vampiric piece of elephant-humping, goose-stepping fan of rapture-embracing world-haters!!!
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Precisely, Mike.
And CRAppy must protect his Master, so get your Mr. Pointy ready- just in case.
Buffyisall
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Quote:Well, since it was a bipartisan enquiry and you seem to know so much about what "they" think, maybe you can tell us what their motivation might be,
I also can’t know that she abused her authority. You’re putting faith in the outcome of an investigation that could very likely be politically motivated.
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Let's party like its 1929.
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Some of my friends here in Alabama are essentially secessionists. These are the same people who’s overt patriotism for their country offends many of the liberals now hypocritically condemning Alaskan secessionists for their supposed lack of patriotism. I’m an avid state’s rightist. I strongly believe in the idea of confederacy, even as I disagree with it for practical reasons. One can be a secessionist and still love one’s country. The US has a long history of such thinking. But there is a big difference between holding an opinion or a belief and practicing a belief through terrorism, such as the Bill Ayers who stated in 2001 that not only does he not regret his use of terrorism, but doesn’t discount such activity in the future.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Does.not.com.pute.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
One can be a secessionist and still love one’s country.
How can one love one's country but not want one's state to be a part of it? Aren't those two mutually exclusive?
Genuinelyconfusedisall
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Originally posted by Khyron:Quote:Does.not.com.pute.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
One can be a secessionist and still love one’s country.
How can one love one's country but not want one's state to be a part of it? Aren't those two mutually exclusive?
Genuinelyconfusedisall
It's easy to see how someone might believe that succession might be necessary if you have witnessed the usurpation of your states rights by a federal government that no longer feels constrained by the Tenth Amendment. Alaska has been prevented from using it's vast natural resources by the federal government based on a ridiculous interpretation of the Interstate Commerce Clause. I think resistance by the States to the whims of the feds is just what this country needs to get back on track. The States have plenty of ability to resist the fed without any violence resulting.
“ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Cons
titution
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Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
The ACORN thing will be Obama's undoing. Gave them $ 800,000 from his campaign. Was their former mentor. Was their attorney. They're under FBI investigation in 8 states for voter fraud. They been convicted dozens of times before. They keep getting millions of dollars from Liberals, their offices have been raided by FBI and state investigators, and there are now piles of brand new sworn statements and un-deniable evidence testifying to gross voter registration fraud, numbering in the the 10's of thousands. That's 10,000's of crimes and felonies, almost exclusively favoring Democrats. And committed by recruited and funded Democrat operatives in the field. What's worse? Someone stealing your vote, or stealing your money? Answer. Democrats stole them both. And I'm sorry Dems, but there's a very clear and straight line from these felonious vote stealers to Obama and his campaign.
And by the way, you Obama supporters were certainly correct in your arched-back indignation over Palin's use of the term Community Organizer for Obama. I can see why. That's some community! ACORN, AYERS, WRIGHT, FLEAGER, , and of course, the big daddy, the millionnaire slumlord of the community, Tony the Man REZKO. Obama sure drank from Rezko's fountain now, didn't he? All of these despicable human beings and organizations are hardly simple and innocent associations for Obama as is the often-heard pitiful defense, rather more a brotherhood of radical purpose, including deep involvements and working relationships, in harmony of spirit and cause, and with large financial connections as well. The man had NO judgement, he was one of them, but now he doesn't like any of them anymore. Contemplate that my friends when your're getting all spun about with Palin.
I wish McCain had someone like Riverlove writing his campain comercials, he'd win in a landslide.
Kirkules, I appreciate your agreement. For me the most hysterical part of the Dem's position on Troopergate is that it may be the first time in recorded history that Liberals and other Dems support a police officer. It took an election for them to sacrifice their long-cherished hatred and suspicion of the police. Obama supporters think that everyone in America was all engaged and teary-eyed and star-struck watching the endless Democrat primary process. Everyone wasn't. Just weeding out Rev Al and Cynthia McKinney took them 92 debates. Lots of people never watched any of their debates, or heard their speeches. I remember seeing a few of their attack ads on TV against eachother.
Obama is the chosen one of the hard-core demented Left. I'm talking MoveON and Daily Kos radical, supported and vastly funded by George Soros. Then there's the cabal of crazies, Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan, Rezko et al. But even those dreadful reminders of Obama's judgement and purpose, whether in support, or his gross naivete in not knowing, pale in comparison to Obama's own shameful background of involvement with radicals and their various nefarious causes and methods. ACORN is the worst example of people attempting subterfuge against the basic American principle of one-man, one-vote. That's how they think. The facts and records show Obama as central in their training and legal representation, and of course direct funding from his campaign. ACORN also had their dirty little felonious hands in the mortgage mess. They aggressively pressured banks to cast aside basic tenets of fiscal responsibility to give mortgages to anyone. When banks resisted that insanity ACORN went to Washington DC and found supporters in Chris Dodd and Barney Franks. They already had Obama & Franklin Raines on their team. Then they all went to work to destroy and bankrupt Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the guise of helping poor people. Along the way Obama, Dodd & Franks got millions for themselves. Franks got a little more, something special if ya know what I mean (wink, wink). The rest is history.
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Kirkules, thanks for the answer, and while what you say does make sense, I still think the gap between patriotism and secessionism is too big to be bridged. If one feels the fed is taking too many rights away from the state (no argument from me there), why not try to fight for legislation that gives the state more rights to manage its own resources instead of fighting to secede from the Union? The latter option still doesn't seem like a patriotic thing to do.
Btw, I'm not out to prove a point about Todd Palin at the moment, right now I'm genuinely confused about the secessionist mindset and want to understand it better.
Quote:Don't forget the demented conservatives too!
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Obama is the chosen one of the hard-core demented Left. I'm talking MoveON and Daily Kos radical
http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?nm=Core+Pages&type=gen&mod=Cor
e+Pages&tier=3&gid=B33A5C6E2CF04C9596A3EF81822D9F8E
Also read the comments.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I appose Kirkules...
As opposed to opposeisall
You're one of those guys that stood around in the halls in high-school making fun of the retarded kids aren't you?
Retardedisall
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Quote:"Kill him!" "Terrorist!" I'm not making that up. Nor am I making up the accusations McCain and Palin have made and kool-aid drinkers have echoed, that Obama is "hiding" something. That Obama needs to come clean about his "true" association with Ayers. What I want to know is: what the hell is he supposedly hiding? What is really to fear here? Specifically?
Originally posted by Kirkules:
I think you have invented most of the Obama hatred you see in your own head.
Quote:Surely you see how weak this is. Ayers is one of the hundreds of people Obama has encountered in his years as a politician. They worked on something unrelated to Ayer's past, and - more importantly - completely unrelated to Obama's presidency. Obama does not "pal" around with this guy. Obama does not adhere to Ayers's ideals. So where is the danger that has McCainites so up in arms?
He's Nobody here that I've seen has suggested that Obama is a terrorist, just that it shows bad judgment hanging out with one.
The thing I find really bizarre is that you can take this tiny, irrelevant thing as evidence of some kind of monumentally poor judgement from Obama, and yet you don't question McCain's decision making skills. The Keating 5 financial scandal and McCain's lifelong support of non-regulation is much more relevant to the present Wall Street situation than who sat on a panel with Obama a long time ago.
And talking about relevant - how about McCain choosing an ignorant, vindictive, devisive running mate with a history of unethical behavior and abuse of power? Haven't we learned what happens to our govt when the president hands out jobs based on politics rather than merit? When politicians think that laws and ethics don't apply to them? I mean, I'd kind of prefer that the Justice Department not continue to be stocked with people like Sarah Palin. (God help us!) I'd like to have a JD that does it's nonpartisan job for a change.
That's the kind of judgement that matters in our next president - don't promote idiots! Who's the one promoting idiots here?
Quote:Note the difference from the Ayers situation: you would oppose your friends based on what you know about them, not based on some schmoe they had a cup of coffee with a decade ago.
I have quite a few liberal/socialist/commie friends and I have no problem with that. If any one of them ran for President I would appose them just as strongly as I appose Obama.
Hey, if you want to argue against Obama's policies, please do. But policies are clearly not what this Ayers thing is about.
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