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A blow for Palin fans everywhere....
POSTED BY: MrBlueSun
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 18:46
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Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:35 PM
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Fuck you both, assholes!
See? Even you don't buy your own tripe. You got nothing,so you're left w/ this sad quote.
Is that how it works in your world, 'Rappy? So when you lost it and said to me, in another thread, "Fuck you, asshole!", that meant that you had nothing left, and you don't believe your own tripe? Is that what you're now saying?
Mike
This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:45 PM
Quote:Where did I attack your character???
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Why the hell do I have spell out “whether they are Republican or Democrat” after every comment I make to prevent you from attacking my character?
I attacked your politics & ability to make them as clear as you'd like to, not your character...
And for the record, yeah, Obama has had some associations that don't thrill me either, but the alternative is pure brainlessness, and we've already seen how that works out...
And also, 'bad cop'? Whoda said he was a bad cop, besides the Palins, I mean? You seem to have jumped to that conclusion, again a seeming lean, coincidentally, to the right. From what I read he was merely a questionable husband, or your basic, average jerk, and that in no way translates into being a cop worthy of being kicked off the force, as far as MY understanding goes...ooooohhh but big sis Sarah gonna learn him sumthin', yo?
Chrisisall
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Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:03 PM
Quote:You were putting words in my mouth in an attempt to make me appear to be unreasonably biased. As far as attacks on character go that’s probably pretty light, especially for this board, but I didn’t appreciate it nonetheless.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Where did I attack your character???
I attacked your politics & ability to make them as clear as you'd like to, not your character...
Quote:I don’t know that the guy was a bad cop, but my understanding is that it very likely was the case. He used death threats against his father-in-law. He was at least suspected of domestic violence. He tassered an 11 year old boy as an off duty stunt. And there was at least some considerable evidence that he drove while drinking. This doesn’t strike me as a guy who is a stand-up officer. And if someone tried to get this guy fired, I’m really not going to bat for him, so why are you? According to you, it seems because of Sarah Palin, "big sis Sarah," so perhaps you're more guilty of what you accuse me of.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
And also, 'bad cop'? Whoda said he was a bad cop, besides the Palins, I mean? You seem to have jumped to that conclusion, again a seeming lean, coincidentally, to the right. From what I read he was merely a questionable husband, or your basic, average jerk, and that in no way translates into being a cop worthy of being kicked off the force, as far as MY understanding goes...ooooohhh but big sis Sarah gonna learn him sumthin', yo?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:20 PM
Quote:But...you ARE unreasonably biased, so what's the difference if I put words in your mouth?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
You were putting words in my mouth in an attempt to make me appear to be unreasonably biased.
Quote:No, you don't.
I don’t know that the guy was a bad cop
Quote:Oh- Cause that's not MY understanding.
but my understanding is that it very likely was the case.
Quote:You were there to hear it? You heard a recording? Or, oh, is that hearsay? Suddenly, in THIS case, hearsay is enough for you. Okay.
He used death threats against his father-in-law.
Quote:By anyone official? What did the investigation turn up on that, BTW?
He was at least suspected of domestic violence.
Quote:Actually, the kid wanted to feel the lightest charge out of curiosity, but whatever.
He tassered an 11 year old boy as an off duty stunt.
Quote:Oh well then, you're gonna have to fire half the cops in this country then- you think that makes him in any way special???
And there was at least some considerable evidence that he drove while drinking.
Quote:The famous 'rubber/glue' defense...always sounds good.
perhaps you're more guilty of what you accuse me of.
No Finn, I'm still convinced of your extreme views, but feel free to have them.
Chrisisall
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Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:17 PM
Quote:It wasn’t hearsay. A state of Alaska State Trooper internal investigated found that he used death threats based on direct testimony.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finn: He used death threats against his father-in-law.
Chris: You were there to hear it? You heard a recording? Or, oh, is that hearsay? Suddenly, in THIS case, hearsay is enough for you. Okay.
Quote:An Alaska State judge issued a domestic violence protection order against Wooten, again based on direct testimony.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finn: He was at least suspected of domestic violence.
Chris:By anyone official? What did the investigation turn up on that, BTW?
Quote:Irrelevant. If an 11 year old boy wanted to feel what cocaine was like would it then be permissible to give the child cocaine? It demonstrates a lack of good judgment and lack of appreciation for the well being of children.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finn: He tassered an 11 year old boy as an off duty stunt.
Chris: Actually, the kid wanted to feel the lightest charge out of curiosity, but whatever.
Quote:Okay. Perhaps you’re fine with police officers driving drunk, but I’m not. And if we have to fire half the police force, then I’m okay with that, because if that is true, which I seriously doubt, then we need a new police force.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finn: And there was at least some considerable evidence that he drove while drinking.
Chris: Oh well then, you're gonna have to fire half the cops in this country then- you think that makes him in any way special???
Quote:You’re the one denying evidence to defend an officer that clearly has demonstrated some dubious behavior and instead blaming it on Palin. In other words, for you, it’s not the conduct of the officer that is important, but your disagreement with the political views of the person who has a problem with that conduct.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
The famous 'rubber/glue' defense...always sounds good.
No Finn, I'm still convinced of your extreme views, but feel free to have them.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Monday, October 13, 2008 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
You’re the one denying evidence to defend an officer that clearly has demonstrated some dubious behavior and instead blaming it on Palin.
In doing some research that I DIDN'T do before, here specifically,
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html
I find that I must remove the foot from my mouth regarding Wooten being a 'not bad' cop.
It doesn't mean that Palin didn't abuse her power, as the finding states, or that she has any real brains in her head, but it does mean I owe you one big fat apology for wasting your time on this one point, something I failed to do a little research on before I shot off my stupid mouth as if I knew everything.
It also proves my political desperation to be correct, as you pointed out.
My main point was gonna be that you lean as much right as I do left (which I still believe, BTW), but I'm gonna have to use my brain to prove it next time, not my ego.
Sorry dude.
*hangs head down and wanders away, plotting his next, less insulting, more fact-based challenge*
Knee-jerkisall
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Monday, October 13, 2008 1:16 AM
Mike likes Sarah :
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/09/05/trooper-at-heart-of-alaska-investi
gation-says-palin-wonderful-choice
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Monday, October 13, 2008 2:38 AM
Sorry for butting in Finn and Chris, but I have an opinion I'd like to share if it's ok.
Quote:No, but I'd taze him if he asked.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
If an 11 year old boy wanted to feel what cocaine was like would it then be permissible to give the child cocaine?
We asked my buddy's dad who was a CHP to taze us when we were 16, tazers had just come out and it frickken hurts! I lived through it without a scratch, and gained a healthy respect for any cop carrying one because it's actualy more painfull than getting shot in the arm. Then we asked him to choke hold us till we passed out twitching. It was fun. But my Mother would have been mortified if she saw it.
Sarah Palin just had a case of Mommy outrage...like you do now with all this "bla bla cocaine bla bla irresponsible bla well being bla bla". You can't watch thier every move forever and the child in Alaska wasn't damaged. Yet I'm not surprised you would join in on discrediting this trooper so Palin would appear justified for her "control freak sister" act, pulling strings, and teaching this guy a lesson for ever messing with the big important uber mommy governor's sister.
Quote:Unless he drove drunk with the kids in the car...it is completely irrelevant to Palin's abuse of authority verdict. Palin didn't have her man servant call Monaghan about that, it was just part of the possibly trumped up list of reasons Palin thought he should be fired for. But once again, unless he drove with minors in the car, it's a seperate issue.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal: And there was at least some considerable evidence that he drove while drinking.
It won't stop the inevitable Republican defeat. This scandal is only hungry for Palin, who shields herself from Boo's using Piper and Willow, and it doesn't work! That's child abuse. Those kids will need therapy till they're 90.
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Monday, October 13, 2008 3:18 AM
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:It's called sleeping with the enemy.
you have the Presidential candidate himself being associated w/ some questionable characters, and just for kicks and giggles, the Left tries to play quid pro quo w/ the opposition's VP candidates HUSBAND ???
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The worst Todd Palin would ever want is to leave you alone, and for you to leave him alone. That's a by far and away more desirable than what Obama himself has in store for this country.
And , FYI, when I told you to FO, I truly meant it. Here, you melted down for no real reason , what so ever. You getting THIS upset over Todd Palin? There's no possible way you could be so emotional over that, not a chance. You're just a sad, little man.
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