Capital Offense
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UPDATED: Sunday, November 16, 2025 04:49
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Quote:I concur Mike. He keeps on about finding old useless remnants of WMD as if we don't recognize it as fact, and how Saddam used WMD on his own peeps in times past, proving he once had and employed them, again, as if we dispute it or something. The possibility that he used up the good stuff he had, and that the remaining effective lot he was supposed to have on the side was VASTLY overestimated is a near impossibility to Finn, even though he admits to 'not being able to fully know'. Then he uses a quote where Bush states we had to get Saddam before he became an imminent threat, as if that negates other more direct, inflammatory & fear-mongering language
Originally posted by Kwicko:
The thing is, he probably DOESN'T actually remember them saying that; he's wiped his mind utterly clean of any fact that might contradict his ideology. In his mind, it doesn't exist, didn't happen, and doesn't matter. That's the only conclusion I can reach, given the evidence.
. This kind of incredibly hyper-focused combination of blinders & cherry-picking is what make me give up arguing with him over it; his objectivity is clearly in question- not that ours isn't, but I see the rest of us at least attempting it.
Excuse me now, I have to continue looking for that hidden stockpile of cookies my son stashed away four years ago, I've expanded my search to neighbour's houses, and some of 'em are putting up quite a fight letting me do my inspections.
Not-so-friendly-neighbourhood Chrisisall
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Quote:HAHAHA!!!!
I have to continue looking for that hidden stockpile of cookies my son stashed away four years ago, I've expanded my search to neighbour's houses, and some of 'em are putting up quite a fight letting me do my inspections.
Hey, when you find those cookies can I have some?
Unless they're stale by now, in which case... you can have 'em! (And I advise you to let your neighbors do the same.)
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hey, when you find those cookies can I have some?
Unless they're stale by now, in which case... you can have 'em! (And I advise you to let your neighbors do the same.)
While it's true that some cookies will go stale, SonIsAll's cookies were stored as cookie precursors, that won't ever go stale.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:I HAVE THEM!!
Originally posted by citizen:
While it's true that some cookies will go stale, SonIsAll's cookies were stored as cookie precursors, that won't ever go stale.
A kid told a kid who told me that his Dad carted them away into his basement right around the time I found my son with the original supposedly 'only' box- I won't wait to get the cops, I'm busting into his house tonight to grab them & pre-emptivly remove the threat of a large-scale food fight!!!!
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:Since stockpiles of WMDs were found in Iraq by coalition forces, then without question, these weapons existed in Iraq until they were removed by coalition forces. You choose to ignore these WMDs, so that you can claim none were found in Iraq – but that is not true, they were found.
Originally posted by swish:
Point is: in this option, you seem to suggest that Saddam had stockpiles of WMDs in his power in relatively recent times.
Cites please?
The rest of the discussion is moot until this is clarified. Where were the stockpiles, and what exactly did they consist of?
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Originally posted by swish:
Cites please?
The rest of the discussion is moot until this is clarified. Where were the stockpiles, and what exactly did they consist of?
Here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/30/AR2006
063001528.html
Basically, a bunch of used-to-be dangerous stuff.
Dustyisall
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FINN- One LAST attempt to reset your memory to what the Administraiton was really saying and doing.
The Admin used the terms "imminent threat" "mortal threat," "urgent threat," and "immediate threat", and "unique threat".
By any normal interpretation this does NOT imply stale leftovers from two decades ago.
They also used the term "serious and mounting threat". In any normal intepretation of the term, this implies that Saddam was currently manufacturing even more WMD.
The admin would not be able to get the peeps to support an invasion based on a realistic assessment, which was:
Saddam had WMD as late as 1990, and he hasn't accounted for them although they're well past expiry. We're concerned that he may be manufacturing more, although we haven't seen any evidence of that. UNMOVIC may not be doing a good enough job to assure us that ongoing WMD programs do not exist.
No, what they said was was
They're stockpiled! They're growing! They're deployed! We can't wait! We have to invade NOW!!!
What would you call that?
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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Saddam had WMD as late as 1990, and he hasn't accounted for them although they're well past expiry. We're concerned that he may be manufacturing more, although we haven't seen any evidence of that. UNMOVIC may not be doing a good enough job to assure us that ongoing WMD programs do not exist.
Well, shit, Signy, why'd ya haffta go an' get all LOGICAL about it? Hell, when you put it like that, even I wouldn't support invading Iraq.
Oh, wait - you did put it like that, and I didn't support the invasion. Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. And that includes Finn and his refusal or inability to simply say, "You were right. I was wrong."
Mike
This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Quote:Mike, Mike, Mike, try not to think of it in terms of 'right' and 'wrong', think of it in terms of 'duh' and 'd'oh'.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. And that includes Finn and his refusal or inability to simply say, "You were right. I was wrong."
isall
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Quote:To quote Reggie Hammond from 48 Hrs- "Lack of p***y make you brave, man."
Originally posted by SignyM:
They're stockpiled! They're growing! They're deployed! We can't wait! We have to invade NOW!!!
What would you call that?
isall
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