BTVS - the movie

POSTED BY: Angeldove
UPDATED: Sunday, October 9, 2005 12:24
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ANGELDOVE

Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:02 AM

OK, so I didn't have anything to do last night, and couldn't sleep, I was up till 6am trying to no avail. So I went searching through some old video-tapes and came across the original BTVS Movie. I became curious and decided to watch it to see if it was as bad as I remembered it to be, and as bad as Joss said it was. And it was, though mostly on the part of the actors who have no idea how to deliver a Joss Whedon line. I guess that is what you get when you allow someone else to direct a Whedon movie. There were times when you heard definite Joss dialogue (again, badly delivered), but then other times when you knew there was no way that came from Joss. The only time I laughed was during Paul Reubins death scene. Anyone remember it? When he gets staked falls to the floor, gets up moaning, falls again, kicks the wall with is foot until he finally dies. It really was funny, although would never work in the new and improved Buffyverse. So after the movie was over and I was still lying there trying to get to sleep, I had an alternate version of that scene come into my head, that I decided to bore you all with since it is now 2:40 in the morning, and I am still up and in no way feel tired. So, here goes.

Teaser

Buffy walks into a dark ally and turns to find a Vampire (Paul Ruebins) and immediately drives a stake into him. He falls down and starts the whole routine, (as seen in the movie), Buffy leans on a garbage can looking at him incredulously, a slight smirk on her face. She waits until he finishes his death scene and his eyes close, and squats down next to him.

Buffy: Now you know, I know, and that stake knows, that I missed the heart, which in itself is odd, but even odder is you thinking that a slayer is going to fall for that performance. So I start thinking to myself, is this a special vampire? Do stakes not work, must I try decapitation or fire, those must surely work."

The vampire's startled eyes fly open and he kicks Buffy away when she lets down her guard for incessant laughing. He tries to get up and run but is cornered by Buffy.

Vampire: I almost had you. You believed me for a second there, that was an Emmy winning performance!

Buffy: I personally thought it was a little weak, but definitely had potential. Have you ever thought of acting classes?

Vampire: You know, I had thought about it, I used to be in theatre in High School.

Buffy: See, I knew I had seen you somewhere before.

Vampire: So you see a future for me in acting, for all eternity?

Buffy: Actually, the only future I see for you, is filling an ashtray for the next ever.

Buffy then stakes the now startled vampire strait through the heart and he shatters into dust. Buffy turns to walk away, dusting off her hands as she goes.

Buffy: Forget about the Emmy's, now that was an Oscar performance.

Queue opening sequence.

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

GUNHAND

Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:06 AM

Oh yeah Paul Reuben's death in the movie was definately something that actually made me laugh out loud when I saw it. It was classic.

I like your addition to it as well though.

And yes the movie is the only Buffy I've ever seen, so that scene was the highpoint of my entire BtVS experience.

EDIT: Although I do have the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Roleplaying Game. Why? Because I'm addicted to Eden Studio's books. I think they dust the pages with something highly addictive...

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

ANGELDOVE

Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:07 AM

So, anyone have any moments in BTVS series, or ATS, that you would have rewritten in some way? I always seem to find one, for example...In the pilot episode while Doyle is telling Angel the story of Angel's life, they are showing a montage of images from BTVS. Then Doyle askes Angel when the last time he tasted human blood was, and Angel answers "Buffy", what I would have liked to see here is a brief flashback to the drinking moment in Graduation. It worked just fine without it, but I had the thought just the same. And BTW, I still believe that scene is the most passionate Buffy/Angel moment of the series. Is there something wrong with me?

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

ANGELDOVE

Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:16 AM

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And yes the movie is the only Buffy I've ever seen, so that scene was the highpoint of my entire BtVS experience.

Oh, you so should give the series a try. I know a lot of people think it looks silly, which I did as well for years until I caught a marathon on FX. They just started season 6 repeats, so within the next two months it will start over. I'll put up a reminder even though season 1 wasn't my favorite. Seasons 2 & 3 kick ass. I feel the only important episodes of season 1 are the pilot: Welcome to the Hellmouth/The Harvest (2 parter), Angel, and Prophecy Girl.

Do you watch Angel? 'Cause that just started over with season 1, on TNT 5pm eastern.

I love all things Whedon

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

GUNHAND

Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:20 AM

Nope, never saw a single episode of Angel either. I have no idea why because they'd normally be things I'd like to watch, just never have. I like campy, silly, pulpy stuff but just never watched them. It's one of the great mysteries of the universe although I think some of the aversion comes from people I know who just constantly rave about them. These being people I wonder why weren't selected against already in a Darwinian way. So could be a healthy dose of aversion by association.

I also have the Angel Roleplaying Game series watching non-withstanding. Those people at Eden really have my number...

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

CALHOUN

Sunday, May 16, 2004 10:35 AM

Time to weigh in,

I have never seen an episode or movie of Buffy or Angel. I mean cmon.. Buffy! Buffy the vampire slayer! I cant get past the title.

I am so sooo much the Browncoat though and I find myself in such awe of Joss Whedons story writing / telling and directing with Firefly that i'm thinkin maybe I should at least try Buffy and Angel.

Should I start with the Buffy movie first? Or bypass it and go to the series first?

I'm afraid people I know might laugh at me if they know i'm watching Buffy so im going to have to go to the video store late at night and similarly watch when everyones in bed.

SHHH! Dont wake anyone!

This will be our little secret. OK?

DELIA

Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
Time to weigh in,

I have never seen an episode or movie of Buffy or Angel. I mean cmon.. Buffy! Buffy the vampire slayer! I cant get past the title.

I am so sooo much the Browncoat though and I find myself in such awe of Joss Whedons story writing / telling and directing with Firefly that i'm thinkin maybe I should at least try Buffy and Angel.

Should I start with the Buffy movie first? Or bypass it and go to the series first?

I'm afraid people I know might laugh at me if they know i'm watching Buffy so im going to have to go to the video store late at night and similarly watch when everyones in bed.

SHHH! Dont wake anyone!

This will be our little secret. OK?

Bypass the movie. And watch the series in order. Watch Buffy and Angel together and in the order they were meant to be watched in. And don't be embarassed -- the smarted people I know all watch Buffy. And remember, trust in Joss. He's actually said that if people couldn't get past the title, let 'em go, he didn't want them. And you wouldn't want to be on of the people Joss let go, would you?

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

PEACE

Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
Time to weigh in,

I have never seen an episode or movie of Buffy or Angel. I mean cmon.. Buffy! Buffy the vampire slayer! I cant get past the title.

I am so sooo much the Browncoat though and I find myself in such awe of Joss Whedons story writing / telling and directing with Firefly that i'm thinkin maybe I should at least try Buffy and Angel.

Should I start with the Buffy movie first? Or bypass it and go to the series first?

I'm afraid people I know might laugh at me if they know i'm watching Buffy so im going to have to go to the video store late at night and similarly watch when everyones in bed.

SHHH! Dont wake anyone!

This will be our little secret. OK?

In case you don't know, the title was an intentional device from the beginning-- both as a juxtaposition with Buffy's origin as a pure "Valley Girl" forced into a uber-serious universe, and as a twist on all those slasher movies where "pretty young thing goes down a dark alley and gets slaughtered by evil thing". In Joss' world, it's "pretty young thing goes down a dark alley, runs into evil thing, utterly kicks evil thing's butt".

Frankly, if you're put off by the title, IMHO you've allowed yourself to miss some of the best television ever produced. Perhaps some of the best drama ever created in the English language. That may sound like hyperbole, but many of BTVS' episodes stand out in my mind as not just superior action, but as superior drama that deals with love, heartbreak, hope and despair-- basically the gamut of human experience. Fortunately for you the series is coming out on DVD, so you're not out of luck.

BTW, if you need external validation, are you aware that BTVS has created a substantial body of literary criticism from real academics? I'm talking about the sort of criticism and analysis that has usually been reserved for Balzac, Tolstoy and Sartre. Try googling academic buffy the vampire slayer or check out www.slayage.tv.

Do yourself a great big favor-- rent Season One today. And remember-- Joss is a fan of both Shakespeare and the X-Men. As far as I'm concerned, you can't beat those for sources of inspiration.

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

AERELORN

Monday, May 17, 2004 12:30 AM

I felt exactly like you 3 months ago. I'd heard of Buffy and thought it sounded stupid, but I loved Firefly and decided to give it a try.

Now I own DVDs of all 7 seasons of Buffy and the first 4 of Angel. This isn't the site to say it on, but I'm now a bigger fan of Buffy/Angel than I am of Firefly.

Skip the movie, just start with the series. I was hooked after the first episode, but the show really comes into it's own starting in Season 2.

Hope you like it. Cheers.

IDEFIX

Monday, May 17, 2004 2:18 PM

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Originally posted by aerelorn:
I felt exactly like you 3 months ago. I'd heard of Buffy and thought it sounded stupid, but I loved Firefly and decided to give it a try.

Now I own DVDs of all 7 seasons of Buffy and the first 4 of Angel. This isn't the site to say it on, but I'm now a bigger fan of Buffy/Angel than I am of Firefly.

Skip the movie, just start with the series. I was hooked after the first episode, but the show really comes into it's own starting in Season 2.

Hope you like it. Cheers.

just how many of us are there? I could write almost exactly the same. I'm only in possession of Buffy 1-5 yet but I plan on getting all the rest including Angel.

I just thought "vampires?" "kids fighting vampires?" "never!" but it is really really good. among the best. it's the characters, the dialog and the stories. they shine through however biased you might now be (ok it seems to be more a girls show than a boys show. my boyfriend watched S1-5 with me and he isn't a fan now). just start with Buffy S1 and go from there. I think S1 is good enough to get almost everyone hooked who will be hooked. it isn't as good as the following seasons though. but people widely disagree on which seasons are the best and which should never have happend (if there are any of the latter variety at all). so you just have to watch and decide for yourself. s2 and 3 are kinda alike, whereas S4 is majorly different. and the next hugely different season is S6. and I personally like the dark side in it very much.

ahh and if you can: don't get too hooked up on any 'ships' and characters. if you decide by S2 you can't have anyone else than Angel being with Buffy you'll suffer thru the rest of the series from S4 onward. if you get too hooked on Giles you will hate seasons 6 and 7. and things like that. keep an open mind and enjoy what's out there. enjoy it changing because that's why it's so great. it isn't the same all over again every year. would be damn boring if it were (as it actually is with lots of other shows).

Idefix

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