Taking a Gander at the Goose
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Saturday, September 13, 2008 18:28
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"But Barrack needs to understand, women like my Mother and some others I've talked to saw this as a personal attack and see it as a weight/image attack which they found particularly offensive."
Your mother, and women like her, are idiots. No offense.
But to read the comment IN CONTEXT and come away with that impression is laughable. Or the other possibility, to just read the all the fru-fru without actually finding out the FACTS is also laughable. Either way ... 
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Unfortunately, I know a lot of very nice, very stupid women. I think the Obama campaign should just let them go.
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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal
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I thought it was pretty savvy politics on his part, and he's maintained plausible deniability on it the whole time.
Was pretty slick, indeed.
He's good, not Bill Clinton good, but at least not a total fucking embarrassment like the pathetic mourners row of dregs the GOP has to offer.
Being a good politician however, does not necessarily equal being a good president.
Never thought I'd see the day when I actually missed Slick Willy.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Because if Palin hadn’t have made the Lipstick comment, Obama’s comment would have gone unnoticed too. It’s the combination of the two that relate the comment to Palin.
So you're saying that she now owns the copyright on the word "lipstick", and that no one can ever again say that trying to pretty up an ugly thing is tantamount to "putting lipstick on a pig"?
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Quote:No, I’m not saying anything of the sort.
Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Because if Palin hadn’t have made the Lipstick comment, Obama’s comment would have gone unnoticed too. It’s the combination of the two that relate the comment to Palin.
So you're saying that she now owns the copyright on the word "lipstick", and that no one can ever again say that trying to pretty up an ugly thing is tantamount to "putting lipstick on a pig"?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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No, I’m not saying anything of the sort.
Implying rather strongly, then?
If not, then why all the fuss?
You certainly SEEM to be saying that since she made a remark about lipstick, he is now not allowed to mention the word.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Quote:That is not what I’m saying, but evidently a similar relationship between McCain and Hillary cannot be found, so there is no way to judge it as meaning the same as Obama’s comment.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You certainly SEEM to be saying that since she made a remark about lipstick, he is now not allowed to mention the word.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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That is not what I’m saying, but evidently a similar relationship between McCain and Hillary cannot be found, so there is no way to judge it as meaning the same as Obama’s comment.
Bullshit. Next you'll be telling me what your definition of "is" is. Talk about needless and incessant parsing of words.
McCain used the exact same expression when speaking directly about Hillary and her health care proposal. Obama used the phrase when speaking directly about McCain in a speech in which Palin's name and the position she's running for were never mentioned.
So if a man says it when speaking of a woman, it's okay, but if another man says it when speaking about a man, it's sexist.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
Your hypocrisy is showing, again. Might wanna look into that.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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You have yet to show that McCain was speaking directly about Hillary. That’s you’re problem. Palin’s Lipstick comment relates Obama’s lipstick comment to her, but you haven’t show that there is any relationship between what McCain said and Hillary. You simply assume that if McCain used the same hackneyed phrase as Obama that it must be meant the same way, but that is not the case. So if you want to show how the McCain comment is related to Hillary, then I’m listening, if not, you can’t show a relation.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:You've not shown that Obama was talking about Palin either, you've just said he was and told people they have to accept it, but then you usually operate on different rules that you hold everyone else to.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
You have yet to show that McCain was speaking directly about Hillary. That’s you’re problem. Palin’s Lipstick comment relates Obama’s lipstick comment to her, but you haven’t show that there is any relationship between what McCain said and Hillary. You simply assume that if McCain used the same hackneyed phrase as Obama that it must be meant the same way, but that is not the case. So if you want to show how the McCain comment is related to Hillary, then I’m listening, if not, you can’t show a relation.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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