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UPDATED: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 00:22
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@Firefly151:
There have been countless email/letter writing/poster/etc campaigns that have yielded effectively zero results. To ignore that is delusion. These current campaigns need a serious injection of realism i.e. it is unreasonable to ask for something that Joss and Nathan have both said is unreasonable to ask for.
For the love of god, do something else that will produce something for the community or please, don't do anything. All these things do is give the FF/S community a worse name than we already have. I'm seriously sick of having to explain that while I'm a FF fan, I'm not one of /those/ FF fans.
Here's a decent project litmus test:
1) Will it increase the activity of the community?
2) Will it produce content for the FF/S community?
3) Does it depend on others?
If the answers are Yes, Yes, No then it's probably a good project. Email campaigns on the other hand are answered Possibly, No, Yes i.e. failure.
A video game project has Yes, Yes, No. Similarly, for fan fic as well as fan art. A youtube type thing like "The Guild" would result in yet another Yes, Yes, No.
But, all the above requires the people involved to expend time and energy. And in case you haven't noticed, the community is rather burned out. The number of people signed up for the forums on the savefirefly.org's site and the activity here is indicative of this fact.
Sorry, but the only projects that are feasible at this time are ones that don't depend on community involvement at large. In fact, this has been true for some time.
If you really want more FF/S, you're going to have to show that there is a significant profit to be made from further projects. And given the inactivity of this community, that isn't the case. The stages of getting something done is something like:
1) Re-build the community
2) Ensure a stable community
3) Show there is enough "disposable income" in the community to ensure at least a 10% return on investment for any further FF/S projects
Stage (1) sucks and is exceedingly difficult. But, regardless, it's where we currently are. Pretending and acting like this isn't the case will only hurt the community further.
So, want more FF/S? Start there. And that starts with producing new content and/or making an "expanded FF/S universe." FF/S has a nice framework to build from so that makes a difficult thing a little bit easier. But, it's still a *long* uphill climb.
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Well that's putting it plain, simple and absolutely spot on.
I'm only 15, so I can't really comment properly and I can't make much of a difference either.
Anyway, good luck to those people who try to continue Firefly and Serenity. It's gritty determination, but there's nothing really wrong with it. Anyhow, I'll leave this to the experts.
Keep Writing, Keep Flying
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Originally posted by firefly151:
I'm only 15, so I can't really comment properly and I can't make much of a difference either.
Not really true. On your blog you said you want to write fan fic. That's something that adds content and increases the activity of the community. I also gave a link above to a game project that needs help in (I believe) all areas: side missions I believe has been mentioned as an immediate necessity. So, being a programmer is not a requisite as that all starts with with a story-line. That might be something that you might want to help out as well.
Basically, the real solution is trying to thunk this community from a 'corporate sustained' mentality to a 'self sustained' mentality. In other words, shift the prevailing method for getting new content from asking for something to producing something.
Starting an expanded universe project would be something else that could be done that might send things in a good direction. Especially given that it can take various forms e.g. fan fic, games, comics, etc. So, just about everyone could participate.
One of the problems with this (type of) project is that a solution would have to be found for the "everybody's input matters" problem. Basically, if everyone's input matters then contradictions would arise and the verse would go in many different directions at once. Obviously, a very bad thing to have happen. But, any solution would be something like one of:
1) One dictator would rule
2) A "council" would rule
3) Democracy
(1) and (2) are problematic because it means that some people will be ignored (people don't like that). (3) is a problem partially for reasons already mentioned but also introduces a new type of inconsistency. Namely, that though things would remain somewhat consistent universe wise, the direction would change randomly depending on peoples moods and suggestions given. (2) and (3) also have the "blinders" problem. Namely, that given enough people, inconsistencies can be ignored and something gets into the project that really shouldn't ((1) has this as well depending on the dictator). And that's just off the top of my head.
But, if this project is done, the logical starting point would be to read/watch everything official. Then to document where things could be filled in and finally where things can likely be expanded without impacting canon. After that, every addition would have to be vetted for contradictions before inclusion. This would be time consuming on both the submitters part as well as the people involved in the project.
That said, IMO, it's a good place to start. A little "administration" never hurts. After all, a framework is necessary if something is to be built. But, one must be careful to not go to a bad place with the "administration." It should be a tool as a means to an end. Not an entity in and of itself.
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Thanks, hopefully lots of people read this and get inspired to get active as Firefly fans! Over and out!
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