Republican Revolution
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 26, 2026 12:23
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CFLs - which contain very little mercury, pose no practical hazard.
"One CFL contains a hundred times less mercury than is found in a single dental amalgam filling or old-style glass thermometer, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)."
And
"In comparison a single amalgam filling with an , average surface area of 0.4 cm2 has been estimated to release as much as 15µg mercury/day, primarily , through mechanical wear and evaporation, but also through dissolution into saliva (Lorscheider et al. 1995). For the average individual with eight occlusal , amalgam fillings, 120µg of mercury could be released daily into the mouth, and a portion of that , swallowed or inhaled (Lorscheider et al. 1995). Both Canada and WHO consider dental amalgam to be the single largest source of mercury exposure for the general public."
And
"These toxic effects are why any mercury spill should be handled carefully, including one that results from a CFL breaking. Having said this, careful handling does not mean that expensive or complicated clean-up of the spill is needed or that you should be worried about you or your family's health, if a CFL were to break in your home.
This is because CFLs contain relatively small amounts of mercury -- EPA estimates this amount to be 4-5 milligrams (mg) in a typical CFL. A spill of this amount of mercury is not likely to present any excess risk to you or your family. A quick back-of-the-envelope calculation shows why. [Note: This example is meant only as a quick and dirty example. It is not intended to represent every case nor every situation.] For example, we could imagine the following scenario:
A CFL containing 5 mg of mercury breaks in your child’s bedroom that has a volume of about 25 m3 (which corresponds to a medium sized bedroom). The entire 5 mg of mercury vaporizes immediately (an unlikely occurrence), resulting in an airborne mercury concentration in this room of 0.2 mg/m3. This concentration will decrease with time, as air in the room leaves and is replaced by air from outside or from a different room. As a result, concentrations of mercury in the room will likely approach zero after about an hour or so.
Under these relatively conservative assumptions, this level and duration of mercury exposure is not likely to be dangerous, as it is lower than the US Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) standard of 0.05 mg/m3 of metallic mercury vapor averaged over eight hours. [To equate these values, we could estimate the average indoor airborne mercury concentration for 8 hours, beginning post-spill at an estimated starting value of 0.2 mg/m3 and decreasing from there. If one assumes the the air exchanges completely in one hour (a fairly standard assumption), then the 8-hour average concentration would be 0.025 mg/m3.] "
But as the author noted, these asusmptions are very conservative (geared to always overestimate risk and never underestimate.)
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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."
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Quote:Or, How many AURaptors does it take to change a light bulb?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Where are the 'idiot steps' , as you put it, for when an incandescent light breaks ?
Two: one to read endless instructions in the home-improvement manual, and one to curse the Liberals for creating an environment that makes us dependent on light for illumination in the first place.
isall
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Is it better to curse the darkness or curse the light bulb ?
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In a bold move Republicans have seized control of the House of Representives and forced Nancy Pelosi and her minions to flee the Capitol.
It's funny... in such a bold move and a show of "leadership", I notice that McCain didn't even bother to show up for such a critical vote. Nor has he shown up for ANY votes since at least July first. The only other Senator I can find who missed as many votes is Ted Kennedy. Kennedy is suffering from a brain tumor; what's McCain's excuse?
E (TCB)
If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...and setting us on the path of ruin which has finally caught up with us as our supposedly great nation slides down the pike into the gutter with other third world juntas.
The bloody and ruinous legacy of monsters like Hamilton, Adams, Lincoln, and Marshall haunts us still...
Oh yes, the path to ruin.
Those thirteen free states were ruined by becoming fifty free states united into a single nation that not only freed the slaves in this country but exported liberty to the entire world.
Ruined by building the strongest, most productive nation in the history of the world.
Ruined by building a nation capable of beating the Nazis and the bad Japs and then kind enough to help rebuild the Germans and good Japs and turn them into friends.
Ruined by extremely long periods of peace on this continent.
Ruined by ever increasing life spans and standards of living.
Ruined by creating a nation where women and men are free to be equal and were different races and religeons can co-exist in harmony (or at least indifference).
Ruined by creating a nation that provides more aid and comfort to persons displaced by tragedy then any other nation in the history of the world.
Maybe you don't understand the meaning of the word 'ruin'.
Its " Total destruction or disintegration, either physical, moral, social, or economic."
Not "Frem doesn't like it so it must be bad."
In any event I note for the record that you remain alive and free to say stupid stuff...which is just more proof of the legacy of ruin you are free to enjoy.
H
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
...one to curse the Liberals for creating an environment that makes us dependent on light for illumination in the first place.
Light has always been a conservative notion. God created light, then Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. God, the original right wing religeous type and Edison, inventor and businessman (ie conservative entrepeneur).
Liberals are the ones who wants us in the dark. www.lightsoutsf.org
H
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Quote:Still some way to go before this has happened.
Originally posted by Hero:
[...] exported liberty to the entire world.
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This isn't my signature. I have to type this every time I make a post.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Where are the 'idiot steps' , as you put it, for when an incandescent light breaks ?
Even if every Energy Saving Lightbulb was broken after use, it would release less mercury than normal lightbulbs are responsible for.
There's more toxic chemicals in your computer than in all the CFL's that you could put in your house, and they last as long as the average PC too. So once you've completed you're crusade against 'toxic' light, you should go after TVs, DVD's, Computers and every other electronic device with a semi conductor, because they are by far worse. Yet you, and no one else seems to have the slightest problem with them, why is that?
Also, where is the link to your cite? I found it here:
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/promotions/change_light/download
s/Fact_Sheet_Mercury.pdf
It also included this:
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Electricity use is the main source of mercury emissions in the U.S. CFLs use less electricity than incandescent
lights, meaning CFLs reduce the amount of mercury into the environment. As shown in the table below, a 13-watt,
8,000-rated-hour-life CFL (60-watt equivalent; a common light bulb type) will save 376 kWh over its lifetime, thus
avoiding 4.5 mg of mercury. If the bulb goes to a landfill, overall emissions savings would drop a little, to 4.2 mg.
EPA recommends that CFLs are recycled where possible, to maximize mercury savings.
The following table shows the total mercury emissions for a CFL is 1.6mg over its lifetime, even if the bulb is broken. An incandescent lightbulb, over the course of it's life, will release 5.8mg. Saying CFL's are bad because of Mercury, and that incandescents are better, is misguided or sophistry.
I'd remind you that that long list of procedures is simply 'over' safety. It's the same reason the hot tap in hotels says "danger: hot water", why the lid on coffee cups says "Contents Hot" and why a bag of fucking peanuts has the warning "May contain nuts". It's bet hedging. You don't need those steps to be safe (not that there's any mention of 'hazmat teams' either...), any more than you need a declaration of "may contain nuts" on a bag of nuts. They're there so that if some numbnuts decides to eat a couple of CFL's and then gets mercury poisoning, they can't sue anyone.
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Originally posted by Hero:
Light has always been a conservative notion. God created light, then Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. God, the original right wing religeous type and Edison, inventor and businessman (ie conservative entrepeneur).
Certainly Edison was right wing. He stole the invention of the Lightbulb from Nikoli Tesla and passed it off as his own, like nearly all 'his' inventions in fact. So you're right, very right wing, he couldn't do any work for himself, so he stole other peoples and acted like it was his.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Certainly Edison was right wing. He stole the invention of the Lightbulb from Nikoli Tesla and passed it off as his own, like nearly all 'his' inventions in fact.
Proof? Or are you just spouting crazytalk.
I saw Edison invent the lightbulb on an Episode of Voyagers!.
The only thing Tesla ever invented was wacky conspiracy theories.
I note for the record that Thomas Edison invented the lightbulb in 1879. That same year Mr. Tesla, working as an assistant engineer in Serbia, had a nervous breakdown.
H
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
...one to curse the Liberals for creating an environment that makes us dependent on light for illumination in the first place.
Light has always been a conservative notion. God created light, then Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. God, the original right wing religeous type and Edison, inventor and businessman (ie conservative entrepeneur).
Liberals are the ones who wants us in the dark. www.lightsoutsf.org
H
Wasn't it Cheney who said that Republicans were going to go to the Dark Side?
And who is this "God" person you speak of? Never heard of him. Heard of some cat named "Jeebus" or somthing like that - now HE was a pretty radical left-wing kinda guy. Hardly anything like a conservative - except that he hung around whores, of course...
E (TCB)
If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?
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