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Right Wing Hero Shoots Up Liberal Church

POSTED BY: NewOldBrownCoat
UPDATED: Thursday, August 14, 2008 03:08
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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 4:13 AM

Siri, as I have been fond of sayin out in the real world to folk lately...

(Cue Jayne Voice)
"Hows about you ditch the political race, and join the human race ?"

I too have begun to find folk both on the net and in the real world a little savagely partisan for my taste as well.

-F

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Siri:
I'm not sure that I really want to respond to this thread or not. It caught my attention in a disturbing sort of way. I thought that it was one of those leader type things to garner attention. When I read through the responses, it made me sadder and sadder. While I love Firefly and the Firefly fans overall and at first found meandering through the threads stimulating, more and more it just makes me sad. It seems that we are so attracted to these horrible incidents, the very worst in our human nature, like the proverbial moth to the flame. I think perhaps it is killing us. The bombardments and hateful diatribes, no matter if it's so called right or left are disgusting and appear to bring out the worst in us. It seems to me that there are so many, many things on which we could and should be focussing our attention, our passion, our thoughts and our marvenlous, brilliant ingenuity, for the life of me, I can't figure out why we choose to wallow in this type of muck.

Believe it or not, it actually improves the board in general. It’s the scum trap principle. By leaving a space open for the scum to float into, the other forums remain cleaner.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
(Not including folk who simply want the State to commit violence on their behalf, those are National Socialists, look it up to see what I mean by that.)

If you're referring to the Nazi's they were right-wing stateist ;).
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The meaning of symbols changes over time, look at the Swastika, originally a native american symbol for good fortune, and many years later due to it's association with National Socialism, seen as a symbol of pure evil.
Actually, the Swastika used by the Nazi's stems from ancient Hinduism.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Siri:
I probably won't wander back here for some time, not because I think I'm any better than anyone else, but because I just get too depressed when I read these kinds of threads.Siri


I think you're right...you should stick with the other threads. Here, you just get people debating politics and social issues. It can get intense sometimes, but that's just because people don't agree on things, and they demonstrate their "passion" here by writing posts that communicate their beliefs.
And RWED is a very exciting place to post too. Where else can you pour your feelings and emotions out, only to have other folks insult you, mock you, call you a troll and an idiot, or compare you to a f'ing steaming pile of go se? It's a good reminder of the realities of life....lots of people, with or without class or character, honest & dis-honest, and they all think differently than you, and some despise you because of your beliefs. What better place to toughen you up to deal with the outside world? And sometimes, if you're lucky, you can learn something or educate someone.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 4:58 PM

I learned a lot here, Siri. Two years ago I wouldn't have known a Libertarian from a Libertine. I learned that some people are delusional... and they think the same of me. All in all, a pretty cool place to meet and discuss.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:46 PM

I know they were, Cit - thing is, although the end of the political spectrum is different, the modus operandi is almost exactly the same.

It's the exact same model of the State invading and nitpicking every single aspect of a persons life, private or public, complete with the big lie, artifical atmosphere of fear and hysteria, uber-nationalism, the whole works.

If a car runs you over, in the end does it MATTER whether it hit you from the right side or the left ?

The irony is that the original term, National Socialism, applies far better to the current crop than it did historically.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Thursday, August 7, 2008 1:14 PM

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The irony is that the original term, National Socialism, applies far better to the current crop than it did historically.

Well, the Nazi's called themselves socialists for the popular vote, and that's pretty much where they're link to socialism begins and ends.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:13 PM

Possible copycat attack, details few at this time.

Shooting at Arkansas Democratic Party office
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jm9DYuIE_x8ICCCwKAhyi3PneK_A

Apparently the shooter asked to see the party chairman and then capped three rounds at him and split.

I'd be interested to know his motivation, apparently the police ran him down, shot and wounded him, and he is in custody, so maybe we'll find out.

I am very curious, because if the motive was partisan-political, this whole discussion here becomes pretty damned relevant.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:26 PM

Yeah, agreed.

was waiting to post, because who knows at this point, it could be Gwathny was sleeping with his wife or something,

but hopefully we'll find out. Sadly, I read a couple unconfirmed reports that the person who was shot is dead.

........

on edit, shooter is reported dead,

Gwatney, no word yet

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Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:38 PM

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Moments before the Democratic headquarters shooting, a man with a gun had threatened an employee at that Arkansas State Baptist Convention headquarters seven blocks east, an official there said.

Dan Jordan, the Baptist group's business manager, said a man pointed a gun at another official there, and when asked what was wrong, the man said, "I lost my job." Jordan said he didn't know if it was the same suspect.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_on_re_us/democratic_party_shoot
ing;_ylt=AqQvJukx12jNc9KhcJWy6les0NUE


Jobs, food stamps...these rednecks are clearly pinkos all the way.

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