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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 4:24 AM

Siggy, my grandpappy taught me, just before he died, that while anyone can learn from their own mistakes - a really smart kid can learn from the mistakes of others without ever having make them personally.

Many years later I applied this concept to the study of history, and it has served me quite well.

Side note, he never told me about it, but later I learned the crazy old bastich earned himself a bronze star pushing a willys jeep uphill, while wounded, so that his squad could use it as cover to approach and assault the machinegun pit that had wounded him - and he was royally pissed off when they bugged out just before he there, and proceeded to chase them on foot screaming insults and emptying his sidearm at them.

My family has always been a buncha stubborn, tempermental types.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Smart, thinking, patriotic Americans, that's who.

"WE"

Support childish tempertantrums in political discourse? Explains a lot about the American government right there.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Last I checked, the Religious Right, a mere subset of the Republicans, weren't in power in either the House OR the Senate, so I fail to see how the GOP is " on the top of the (sic) heap, political power wise " . I'll grant you the presence of over bearing religious power interfering w/ our lives...here in GA, I can't buy beer on Sunday, unless I do so at a bar which serves food. It's not enough that we have to wait until noon, but we are FORBIDDEN to buy beer at ALL in the grocery or liquor store on Sunday. That's reserved for God, ya know.

I remember from when I was out there. Dying of thirst on the Sunday, me says I want a pint, friends say can't have, me says "Why did I come to this backward country, bunch of tee-total savages".
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But even w/ that, I think you're overlooking the dangers the Left poses w/ their 'carbon credits ' talk and the hysteria being driven w/ global warming. We're gonna be forced to used " energy saving " fluorescent light bulbs, which are chock full of mercury. Break one of those and you're required to call for a HAZ MAT team come to your home or business and sterilize the entire area. That's no joke, either!
That's a sweet bit of propaganda. Lets ignore the fact that they contain 5 miligrams of mercury to a mercury thermometers 3 grams (something no one seems to have a problem with), and that power stations emit far more mercury powering conventional lightbulbs than powering energy saving ones. Mercury isn't particularly dangerous at all, unless you drink it. The first Chinese Emperor used to do so all the time, BTW, it's so incredibly toxic it took years to kill him. Of course, I'm not suggesting a Mercury Smoothie is a good idea, just that the idea you'll be dangerously exposed, or require a hazard suit if you break an energy saving lightbulb is right up there with suggesting people smoke for their health. All in, I sincerely hope breaking an energy saving lightbulb requires a visit from a 'sterilisation' (sterilising team for a chemical contagion?) is a joke.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 2:02 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
I sincerely hope breaking an energy saving lightbulb requires a visit from a 'sterilisation' (sterilising team for a chemical contagion?) is a joke.


AU never jokes about his propaganda.

isall

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
1. Except when financing it, or do I need to point out again WHERE Saddam and Osama got the money and weapons that rocketed them (pun intended) to power ?


Osama got his money from his family. Saddam got his American support beause he was fighting Iran...I said we opposed Islamic fundalmentalism. Playing waring factions off each other and using them as pawns in our larger conflict with the Commies was just good policy.
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2. Actually they wanted Tea, but not at British Cartel prices...


Tea is not oil. Your better off making a whaling argument, but that would be doing your job for you.
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3. NeoCons don't want alliances, they want domination, and so did the Federalists.


Yeah, the Federalist during their 11 year reign of terror launched SO many wars of aggression...why the people of Earth still cringe at the whisper of the name..."Adams the Conqueror".
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4. Oh really, you DO know Lincoln tried to introduce an amendment to Constitutionally protect slavery, right ?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo104.html


Yes I did know that. He was a President seeking compromise to preserve the Union. But it was Republican party policy to oppose the expansion of slavery and to stamp it out where it exhisted.
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5. Oh yeah ? Morrill Tarriff anyone ? and WHAT party was Morrill ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Tariff


He was a Whig and later a Republican from Vermont. In other words a Republican blue-blood or Rockefeller-Republican. In other words more of a Ford then a Reagan.

I note for the record that Democrat President James Buchannon signed the Act in law.
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6. Untrue, George Washington, proud possessor of both, presided over the original Constitutional Convention.


Yes. The Consitutional Convention. But since I was pointing out how the modern 21st Century Republicans are NOT 18th Century Federalists...I noted that at the forthcoming convention no powdered whigs or wooden teeth.
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7. And the Federalists, every bit as fond of funding the Mil-Industry Complex, bought a bunch of unnecessary Frigates for coastal defense.


Yeah, no need for a Navy, what with us having just fought off the worlds biggest NAVAL power. Still, Federalists completely missed the boat on Air Power. I can't think of a single Federalist who supported it (except maybe Ben Franklin...and he was always more of a D-R).
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8. They had a nutter from France named Ben.


You'll have to be more specific. The Federalists were always unrepresented by States out west...which is DIFFERENT from Republicans who have always done well in the frontier lands.
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9. I highly doubt that, since he despised Nationalist Banking, HATED corporatism, considered stacking the bench a grave sin against our nation, and considered dissent and occasional revolts downright patriotic.


Didn't say we'd vote for him...just that we get to claim him as our own and rub it in Democratic faces.

We could always trade him for Kennedy whose policies resembled Reagan more then Clinton or Roosevelt.
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10. But love debts as much as Adams and Hamilton, which drive us into cycles of ruin - postponing the payback via deficits does not eliminate it.


Republicans love alcohol, guns, and low taxes. "Cycles of ruin"...missed those. Must be one around here somewhere. Sure thats not a Tom Petty Album?
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11. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


You laugh like a sheep.
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- you assholes have had a downright lock on the mainstream press since Adams, and it goes right down the line to Hearst, Sinclair and Murdoch/Ailes.


Yeah the mainstream press is falling all over with their love and praise for John McCain and President Bush.
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12. Excuse me, but Shrub is in fact, a New Englander, fake cowboy attitude and accent aside.


I'm orginally from the South.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 8:14 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:

But say what you want about Bush,

Yes- say what you want & forget about facts


Chinese jet pilot Chrisisall

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 8:57 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by citizen:
I sincerely hope breaking an energy saving lightbulb requires a visit from a 'sterilisation' (sterilising team for a chemical contagion?) is a joke.


AU never jokes about his propaganda.

isall



From the friendly folks at the EPA and the U.S. Dept. of Energy:

How should I clean up a broken fluorescent bulb?

1. Before Clean-up: Air Out the Room
 Have people and pets leave the room, and don't let anyone walk through the breakage area on their way out.
 Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
 Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one.

2. Clean-Up Steps for Hard Surfaces
 Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place them in a glass jar with
metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
 Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass pieces and powder.
 Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place towels in the glass jar or plastic bag.
 Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces.

3. Clean-up Steps for Carpeting or Rug:
 Carefully pick up glass fragments and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a
sealed plastic bag.
 Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
 If vacuuming is needed after all visible materials are removed, vacuum the area where the bulb was broken.
 Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister), and put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed plastic
bag.

4. Clean-up Steps for Clothing, Bedding, etc.:
 If clothing or bedding materials come in direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from inside
the bulb that may stick to the fabric, the clothing or bedding should be thrown away. Do not wash such clothing or
bedding because mercury fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage.
 You can, however, wash clothing or other materials that have been exposed to the mercury vapor from a broken
CFL, such as the clothing you are wearing when you cleaned up the broken CFL, as long as that clothing has not
come into direct contact with the materials from the broken bulb.
 If shoes come into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from the bulb, wipe them off
with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels or wipes in a glass jar or plastic bag for
disposal.

5. Disposal of Clean-up Materials
 Immediately place all clean-up materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area for the next normal trash
pickup.
 Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing clean-up materials.
 Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific area. Some states do not
allow such trash disposal. Instead, they require that broken and unbroken mercury-containing bulbs be taken to a
local recycling center.

6. Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug: Air Out the Room During and After Vacuuming
 The next several times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system and open a
window before vacuuming.
 Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least 15 minutes after
vacuuming is completed.


There! Feel safe now ?



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

There! Feel safe now ?


Oh please AU- those are 'idiot steps' designed to help hapless fools muddle through a cleanup of the crap...

Here's the elite instructions:
1) Clean it up and don't get any in you.
2) Dispose in plastic bag.

isall

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:49 PM

Where are the 'idiot steps' , as you put it, for when an incandescent light breaks ?





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:05 PM

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They lost on many of their ideas, but ultimately won the central argument of the era...that those thirteen states ought and of right should be one American nation.

At the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, most of our freedoms, any moral high ground and setting us on the path of ruin which has finally caught up with us as our supposedly great nation slides down the pike into the gutter with other third world juntas.

The bloody and ruinous legacy of monsters like Hamilton, Adams, Lincoln, and Marshall haunts us still, and occasionally in the personage of the Republican Party, comes back to bite us on the ass, over and over again.

McCarthy, Nixon, Cheney, different wrapper, same content.

You know, every single time someone discusses what the world might have been like if someone capped Hitler before he came to power, one image, and one image alone comes to mind.

Aaron Burr blowing a big damn hole in Alexander Hamilton.

We will never really know how much misery that one shot saved us, but having seen what men of that mold have historically created and done...

It's Burr we oughta be building statues of.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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