It's called "torture" Mr. Bush

POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 15:55
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I think what we have in some of the arguments here is what's called 'cognitive bias'. Basically, it's the mechanism whereby people maintain a double standard.

You do bad things because you're evil and hateful; I do bad things because I have my well-considered 'reasons' ... and I will never consider myself anything other than righteous.

"Man is a rationalizing animal."

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I think what we have in some of the arguments here is what's called 'cognitive bias'. In self-evaluation, it's the mechanism whereby people maintain a double standard. In a survey, 1% of those taking College Entrance exams reported themselves to be less friendly than average, while 60% reported they were more friendly than average.

Or: They do evil things because they're evil and loathsome; we do evil things because we have righteous reasons.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Blah, blah, blah, blah...

Lies and more lies. It's funny how people constantly parrot what they are told they should think. Thanks CNN.

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People with diarrhea of the mouth certainly helps

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


The thing is, Americans have lost thier sense of reality. Why? Because they watch a dog wagging TV that constantly tells them retarded things like 'Torture is acceptable' (actual CNN quote from two weeks BEFORE the torture photos), or 'the Geneva Convention doesn't apply' (Dick Cheney), or anything they can think of. They will say anything. The White House is a liars think tank.

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so what will some one so disillusioned as you change the world for the better? Will you get rid of the White House altogether? What is your solution? Because just running off at the mouth is nothing more than a rabid junk yard dog barking - nobody listens and at the end they get the police to put it down.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


America has already lost the conflict in Iraq. This is the first thing Americans need to understand. It's over. You lost. Again. Who will you blame?

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Sorry, where's the big red flag that said that US has "lost" this one? What's the deal with winning anyways? Last I checked, US has got a whole bunch of people over there trying to help these folks setup their country again.

A few unruly stupid bastard spoils a part of it and you are ready to toss in the towel - we've got a word for that:

Loser al Grande.

Maybe that's you, it's not the rest of the folks there trying to do a job. Let's get rid of these few rotten apples and Let's keep it going.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


The Chicago University study that showed how the White House revieled over 27 reasons for invading Iraq is incredible. Now, this is said on the news like it's no big thing... well, if I gave my boss 27 reasons for fuckin' up do you think I'd have a job? REALITY! Other countries respect laws because people go to jail, even Presidents. But not in the USA. Not anymore.

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eh, if you told your boss 27 reasons why your fucked up - not only did you fucked up, but you were stupid too... But it all depends on whether he likes you or not - come on, someone as brilliantly cynical as you can't still believe in meritocracy - can you? It's all about *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


Worse... no one here has stood up for the soldiers at all! SHAME! The spin going around, especially the first week, is that the 'abuse' (it's TORTURE! REALITY!) was caused by a few. But we know that in fact this is POLICY from Intellegence and thus Rumsfeld and thus the President. How do we know this? REALITY... it's thier JOB to know! So why doesn't anyone call the White House on it? Why?

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And where's the proof that they Georgy and Rummy knew that Pvt and Spc so and so were beating people up? Oh! We don't need any of that, why don't we just hang them high without a trial.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


Because the White House runs the War like the Nazis did. That is - dissent is treason (there's even a frickin' book), follow the Pres or loose your job (Clarke), ignore international law (torturing innocent civilians as policy).

I know the old rule on the Net is that the second you call someone a Nazi that ends the debate. But when the White House uses every Nazi trick in the Nazi cook book you gotta wonder. And of course, sicking dogs on prisoners certainly provoked a few memories (and comments) from Holocaust Survivors.

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly . . . it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."
-Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda

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Funny you should quote him. I thought that's what you were doing. Just keep repeatin

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Originally posted by Talvin:
To GHOULMAN:

Because we are a community, one that you have clearly disparaged and do not consider yourself part of. If you feel this is so important, go start your own. "Browncoats against Bush" if you like, or whatever.

This community has nothing to do with "engine properties" and a great deal to do with support and friendship. Your reply to my post shows that your main interest is in starting a fight, and that means you do not belong here.

Now leave.


"I give up. I admit it. I'm a Browncoat."

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I'm sorry you read my post that way. It wasn't my intention. Excuse the glibness... please! Look, I am not some Star Trek geek looking to figure out if Firefly is Faster than Light or not.

Not a huge crime, except to you?

And it's cute you tell me to leave... it's MY THREAD. Jeez!

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Blah, blah, blah, blah...

Lies and more lies. It's funny how people constantly parrot what they are told they should think. Thanks CNN.

---

People with diarrhea of the mouth certainly helps

Quote:

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


The thing is, Americans have lost thier sense of reality. Why? Because they watch a dog wagging TV that constantly tells them retarded things like 'Torture is acceptable' (actual CNN quote from two weeks BEFORE the torture photos), or 'the Geneva Convention doesn't apply' (Dick Cheney), or anything they can think of. They will say anything. The White House is a liars think tank.

---

so what will some one so disillusioned as you change the world for the better? Will you get rid of the White House altogether? What is your solution? Because just running off at the mouth is nothing more than a rabid junk yard dog barking - nobody listens and at the end they get the police to put it down.

Quote:

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


America has already lost the conflict in Iraq. This is the first thing Americans need to understand. It's over. You lost. Again. Who will you blame?

---

Sorry, where's the big red flag that said that US has "lost" this one? What's the deal with winning anyways? Last I checked, US has got a whole bunch of people over there trying to help these folks setup their country again.

A few unruly stupid bastard spoils a part of it and you are ready to toss in the towel - we've got a word for that:

Loser al Grande.

Maybe that's you, it's not the rest of the folks there trying to do a job. Let's get rid of these few rotten apples and Let's keep it going.

Quote:

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


The Chicago University study that showed how the White House revieled over 27 reasons for invading Iraq is incredible. Now, this is said on the news like it's no big thing... well, if I gave my boss 27 reasons for fuckin' up do you think I'd have a job? REALITY! Other countries respect laws because people go to jail, even Presidents. But not in the USA. Not anymore.

---

eh, if you told your boss 27 reasons why your fucked up - not only did you fucked up, but you were stupid too... But it all depends on whether he likes you or not - come on, someone as brilliantly cynical as you can't still believe in meritocracy - can you? It's all about *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*.

Quote:

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


Worse... no one here has stood up for the soldiers at all! SHAME! The spin going around, especially the first week, is that the 'abuse' (it's TORTURE! REALITY!) was caused by a few. But we know that in fact this is POLICY from Intellegence and thus Rumsfeld and thus the President. How do we know this? REALITY... it's thier JOB to know! So why doesn't anyone call the White House on it? Why?

---

And where's the proof that they Georgy and Rummy knew that Pvt and Spc so and so were beating people up? Oh! We don't need any of that, why don't we just hang them high without a trial.

Quote:

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:


Because the White House runs the War like the Nazis did. That is - dissent is treason (there's even a frickin' book), follow the Pres or loose your job (Clarke), ignore international law (torturing innocent civilians as policy).

I know the old rule on the Net is that the second you call someone a Nazi that ends the debate. But when the White House uses every Nazi trick in the Nazi cook book you gotta wonder. And of course, sicking dogs on prisoners certainly provoked a few memories (and comments) from Holocaust Survivors.

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly . . . it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."
-Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda

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Funny you should quote him. I thought that'

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