Buffy season 8 comic SUCKS. Joss what happened?
POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Sunday, July 13, 2008 15:23
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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
A lot more than just "some" people are enjoying it, since it's Dark Horse's best-selling series ever. I don't know how to respond to criticism as unspecific as "this sucks", but a few things:
- "Do I feel the comics are on par with any of the televised seasons?" Tough to say, since if you tried to equate how many issues equal one TV episode, I think we're really only at the start of the sixth episode of the season. That's too early to say anything for sure, but it won't have to try very hard to exceed my opinions of S7 or S1, and Goddard's "Wolves at the Gate" arc, if you considered it the equal of one TV episode, would probably be in my all-time favorite top 10.
- BKV's Faith arc, tho it had a couple of details that I didn't like (taking Buffy and Faith back to where they hated each other's guts, for one thing), was probably the tightest, most well-done arc of the season so far. It's basically the same story Joss envisioned for the Faith made-for-TV or direct-to-DVD movie that never ended up happening, so he simply adapted it to the comic format.
- Buffy's not a lesbian, but there's been nothing over the years to disprove the idea that she might've been bisexual all along, and even if she wasn't, it's not uncommon for people in their late-teens/early-twenties who are "straight" to try something like that (especially in college). As far as we know, she hadn't had sex with anyone since Spike in S6, was in a place with about 100 girls where the only available man was Xander, and was feeling lonely. Add it all up, and it spells a big "DUH!"
- Willow's magic storyline and connection with the snake lady is only just starting to begin, here in #'s 15 and 16. The season's 40 issues long, and they can't dump a ton of exposition and backstory on you all at once right at the beginning. That would be really crappy and boring writing. You tell the story, and fill in the details as you go along, at the times it becomes necessary to know them. Especially in comic format, where space is at such a premium.
- There's no real threat to anyone? Have you seen that guy Twilight who completely kicked Buffy's ass in #11? Or read #16 and seen what his most-recent move was? The season's 40 issues, and of the 16 so far, only 9 of those have really featured the Scoobies in starring roles, so things are only now just beginning with Twilight's story. We've only completed the equivalent of probably 5 episodes of the show, so how big a threat were Angelus, the Mayor, Adam&the Initiative, Glory, etc., thru the first 5 episodes of each of those seasons?
You're not the only one who doesn't like it--I've seen others online who feel the same way. So you know what I'd suggest? STOP READING IT!! In the meantime, there are plenty of us who love it. We love Jo Chen's covers, Georges Jeanty's art. We love new stories about our favorite characters, written by the writers from the show who know their "voices" better than anyone and can bring them back to life for us. I just feel sorry for you and your friend that you can't enjoy them with the rest of us...
Look, I love Buffy alright. I'm the biggest fan of the show. I feel the comic isn't living up to potential. I explained a few of the things I hate about the comic in an earlier post. I didn't say it sucks and leave it did I? NO. I could go on, and on, but I don't see the need. I won't continue to read it. I collected 1-15 never having read them, and finally got a chance to. 15 issues later, and the F....ng damage is done. I do love the covers of the issues though. If you like it cool. More power to ya. Rock on! I actually had my blinders on reading the first few issues, trying to make excuses or reasons I should like it. Then I thought "who am I protecting here? I'm not enjoying this, why do I have to find reasons to like it when I so clearly can't stand it".
This comic is one ugly bastard, that in no way should be related to the brilliance of a the tv show
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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Season 8 does not exist!!!
sh*t! i must be trapped in a bizzaro dimension - i coulda sworn...
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Originally posted by wytchcroft:Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Season 8 does not exist!!!
sh*t! i must be trapped in a bizzaro dimension - i coulda sworn...
You and me both.
Oh, well, that's okay--I actually prefer it in this bizarro dimension where S8 does exist... 
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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
As far as we know, she hadn't had sex with anyone since Spike in S6, was in a place with about 100 girls where the only available man was Xander, and was feeling lonely. Add it all up, and it spells a big "DUH!"
What's so bad about Xander? Crap, if she hooked up with him at least it would be interesting, and not pretentious drivel created by a lazy writer. I think I figured out the problem with the comics. It's going so far overboard in the woman empowerment realm it's actually satirizing itself.
Can't wait for the story arc about the giant burning bra creature Buffy and crew must face. But the Buffster goes to a dark place because burning bras represent her own womanhood that could be stripped down to raw materials with Dawn in the background.
See I just summed up the caliber of writing that exists in the comic book series. Stupid, pointless, nonsensical bullshit. That is what season 8 is like, so I choose not to believe the hype!
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I've been really enjoying both series....
The Buffy season 8 has seemed a little more uneven, I loved the two stand alone issues Joss wrote, and I really loved Brian K. Vaughan's Faith arc... and so far I'm loving the crossover w/Fray, so it is definitely a 'must have' for me....
And I'm enjoying Angel: After the Fall even more, I think that Brian Lynch has created some really dark and dire situations for all of our heroes and I'm really feeling that he is giving everyone a chance to shine. I'm feeling very emotionally invested in how this will play out, and of course I'm really looking forward to Spike getting his own little mini series:
Spike: After the Fall starts next Wednesday (July 16th)!
New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!! 
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yeah, I'm a troll because
I have an opinion that no one seems to share. Sounds logical
WYTCHCROFT, I've been posting here before you knew what Firefly and Whedon were all about.
Oh well better a troll than a newbie without a clue I guess.
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No, you're a troll because you come across as having started this thread with the premise "S8 sucks--does everyone else think so, too?", and when no one really agreed with you, you seemed to get angry about it. You mentioned a few specific things that you don't like about it, which was fine, and I and a couple of others replied to those and explained why we disagreed with you. You know, to try to get an intelligent, back-and-forth discussion going? But instead of replying to those specifically (other than the Xander thing), you pretty much just re-iterated "this sucks".
Okay, you don't like it. Fine. Like I said, stop reading. I really disliked the 3-part "Serenity" series DH did in 2005 ("Those Left Behind"), and because of that didn't even bother with "Better Days" when it came out. But because I didn't like it, I didn't waste my time going online and bitching about how bad it was--I just stuck the issues in my closet and never read them again.
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Quote:I just wanted a discussion about it, which you have been the only one to actually say why they like it, and I respect that. I never got angry(it's just a comic book) but the reason for this thread was why I didn't like it. I bring up my thoughts on it and get labled a troll, and that is that is absurd. Was I un-civil to anyone who posted on the thread? No. I brought up a valid point, and the next post is a picture of a troll. Not only stupid, it's basically saying that the person had nothing to argue about my statement, and was like "He's on to something, I'd better put a picture of a troll..that should end this". I want intelligent conversation, but with the exception of your post(and a couple others) I have got nothing but hostile reactions. I did start this thread with the best intentions to get to the heart of why, and where is this comic going?
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
No, you're a troll because you come across as having started this thread with the premise "S8 sucks--does everyone else think so, too?", and when no one really agreed with you, you seemed to get angry about it. You mentioned a few specific things that you don't like about it, which was fine, and I and a couple of others replied to those and explained why we disagreed with you. You know, to try to get an intelligent, back-and-forth discussion going? But instead of replying to those specifically (other than the Xander thing), you pretty much just re-iterated "this sucks".
Okay, you don't like it. Fine. Like I said, stop reading. I really disliked the 3-part "Serenity" series DH did in 2005 ("Those Left Behind"), and because of that didn't even bother with "Better Days" when it came out. But because I didn't like it, I didn't waste my time going online and bitching about how bad it was--I just stuck the issues in my closet and never read them again.
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