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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Do you even know the meaning of the word "hypothetical"? Apparently not!
So that's who we were waterboarding, old folks, women, and children?
Just trying to get some perspective here. Not sure why you are trying to equate the aggressive interrogation tactics used against enemy combatants with crimes against civillian women and children. It is dishonest and bordering on strawman territory IMHO, hypothetical or not.
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Quote:I'm trying to find Rapo's definitional boundaries. That is the purpose of hypothetical thought experiments. Apparently you don't understand that technique.
...How would you feel if a squad of USA soldiers decided among themselves ... "Gorramit, we're tired of these friggin' rag-heads bucking our authority. They gotta straigthen up and fly right. So we're gonna grab a couple of kids and some old folks and women, and make an example out of 'em."
Since this is a hypothetical situation assume that they grabbed... a one year-old baby girl, two-year old toddler boy, a five-year old girl, three boys ages six, eight and nine, a twelve year old girl, a teenage girl age 16, two teenage boys ages fiteeen and nineteen, all three mothers, and an elderly man and three elderly women. Let's assume that they raped everyone under the age of 16 and the mothers, and beat everyone to death. They mutilated the bodies and hung them up in the street. What I'm asking about is your "gut reaction", not a thought-out response.
So, if this had actually happened, what is YOUR gut reaction?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm trying to find Rapo's definitional boundaries. That is the purpose of hypothetical thought experiments. Apparently you don't understand that technique.
Say a US soldier was captured and waterboarded to extract troop deployment intel instead of being beheaded, how would you feel about this hypothetical?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, if this had actually happened, what is YOUR gut reaction?
I would be sickened and disgusted and hope those guilty are punished under the full extent of the law.
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Quote:I'd be glad he wasn't killed, and kind of amazed that the animals decided to sheathe their claws a bit.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Say a US soldier was captured and waterboarded to extract troop deployment intel instead of being beheaded, how would you feel about this hypothetical?
But they'd still be animals.
Get it?
Winky Chrisisall
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Quote:So, your reactions are about on-par with mine. Now, how would you feel if instead of raping and beating the subjects to death, they shot them execution-style? (Could you hold your response until Rap replies? I don't want to contaminate his answer w/ yours. Thanks.
I would be sickened and disgusted and hope those guilty are punished under the full extent of the law.
)Quote:I'd be extremely grateful that he was still alive, and pissed off as all hell that he was tortured.
Say a US soldier was captured and waterboarded to extract troop deployment intel instead of being beheaded, how would you feel about this hypothetical.
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Ditto. I'd be pissed that he was tortured, glad he survived it, and worried about how much useful intel he gave up, if any, or if he simply lied to make the torture stop.
Mike
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I guess Rapo doesn't have any gut reactions?
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Since this is a hypothetical situation (and I was too tired last night to flesh out the situation, so to speak) assume that they grabbed... a one year-old baby girl, two-year old toddler boy, a five-year old girl, three boys ages six, eight and nine, a twelve year old girl, a teenage girl age 16, two teenage boys ages fiteeen and nineteen, all three mothers, and an elderly man and three elderly women. Let's assume that they raped everyone under the age of 16 and the mothers, and beat everyone to death. They mutilated the bodies and hung them up in the street.
With out specifics, it's hard to really answer your question. I know that sometimes, police and soldiers will do things which appear far worse than they are.... put on a show, as it were. It's the use of theatrics, of a sort, to explain in a loud, clear manner w/ out actually having to DO much of anything, that they mean business. I'm guessing some of this was done. Possibly quite well, too. Also, I'm guessing that sometimes things went overboard, and mistakes were made. Don't know for sure,but it being war and all, it can't be ruled out. That's all I got at this time.
What I'm asking about is your "gut reaction", not a thought-out response.
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What if OUR troops did that ? Wouldn't happen. It just wouldn't. That's my gut reaction.
But what if it did happen? Those involved would be tried ( by the military ) and likely put to death. Some might just serve life, because they had to cop a plea, but that's just how things work out sometimes.
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I didn't ask about what you thought might happen afterwards, what I was wondering was: What would your gut reaction be if it DID happen? Let's say once you got past the initial disbelief. Would you be shocked? Horrified? Would you be looking for exculpatory evidence? Would you feel sad? How would you feel?
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