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Yellowcake Shipped Out

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Monday, July 7, 2008 8:19 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So why doesn't it add up? Because you have one ATOMIC bomb, and you're going up against Israel with their dozens of HYDROGEN bombs. In case you weren't aware of the difference, it's an order of magnitude. Literally. Atomics weapons such as the ones recently developed by North Korea have yields measured in kilotons (x1000 tons of TNT); hydrogen bombs have yields measured in megatons (x1,000,000 tons of TNT).

The difference is somewhat pronounced. Military theorists still believed that conventional warfare was still possible using atomic weapons. Then the Thermonuclear bomb was invented and people started talking about nuclear annihilation.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Monday, July 7, 2008 8:20 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Come on, you're just pissed they over threw your puppet government.


Talking about the Shah in pre-Khomeini Iran? Not the worst puppet govt. I've ever supported if that's what you want to know.

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Monday, July 7, 2008 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Oh, we are, but they didn't have 17 UN Resolutions specific to WMD and the use of it on their own civilian population and such, " that we are aware of , that is " .

So, as soon as we get some good intel that the rest of the world poses a viable and immediate threat to our way of life, it's nukes away, is it?
Too late pal, the Global Economy IS already eroding our way of life. And the biggest viable and immediate threat is Bushieboy.
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There's no lack of logic here, what so ever.

As you say, so it is...in your own mind anyway.

Why do you hate America, AU? Only an America-hater would cheer on it's destruction as led by your man Bush...

Oh, and BTW, THEM'S THE FACTS. You may not continue to dispute them, or I'll get UN sanctions for you to break so I can ram yellowcake down your douschey throat!!!!

Sorry...lost my usual quiet reserve for a moment there...apologies.



isall




Thats why I would vote for McCain, the faster you go down, the sooner the rest of us can get on with life



Lets party like its 1939

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Monday, July 7, 2008 9:46 PM

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Would yellowcake be vanilla, or more of a lemony flavor?




I'd be leaning more towards vanilla.

Of course, the only threat THIS Yellowcake poses is to your waistline.

-Fremcouldn'tresistisall

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Monday, July 7, 2008 9:52 PM

[Homer Simpson voice]

Mmmmmmm... Yellllllooowwwwcaaaake....

[/Homer Simpson voice]

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Monday, July 7, 2008 10:05 PM

Wait a minute.


You mean to say that Canada isn't part of the US?!?!?!...


"Your gratuitous jello awaits." - Dr. Helen Magnus, Sanctuary

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Monday, July 7, 2008 10:06 PM


Jewelstaitefan,


heh,

you are so deep in rhettoric here, I wasn't even sure I should bother with a reply. Do you even remember the main-stream media's lock-step drum up to the Iraq war? Did they report anything that the administration wasn't telling them was the truth? Where do you think people like Judith Miller got their information? From journalism?

You don't even have to claim some media conspiracy to be fairly certain that if its information coming from a White House source its going to get reported...that's just the way it works, because first of all, it's the White House, and it makes news, but second of all, the Main Stream Media is lazy and cheap, and if a story is given to them they'll run that over having to do actual reporting almost every time. They'll merely tag it,(and not always) with "the administration claims,"

and go about their business without even fact-checking. They'll Leave that to the 'biased' sources with an axe to grind...sigh

and I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to politics back in Gore's run to the White House, but EVERY "News" story I heard suggested mockingly that he claimed to have invented the internet. That's what I remember about Al Gore. The fact that the coverage was hyperbolic bullshit was not discovered by me until way later.

And who was saying Dan Rather was right? People were heaping criticism on him, he was getting mauled by every mainstream source...CBS, that bastion of liberal talking points, was eager to get rid of him, and they did force him out.

do you really think you can rewrite history within the span of a few years?

Jesus man, next time come at me with something more substantive than your drive-by flamebait.



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Monday, July 7, 2008 10:35 PM

Righteous?

Five words.

Jeff Gannon.
Talon News Service.

Go on, google it.

Oh how soon do people forget, when the mainstream media blacklists a topic.

-F

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Monday, July 7, 2008 11:24 PM

Here's what Wiki has to say about Yellowcake and its uses:

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Yellowcake is used in the preparation of fuel for nuclear reactors, where it is processed into purified UO2 for use in fuel rods for PHWR and other systems using unenriched uranium. It may also be enriched, by being converted to uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6), by isotope separation through gaseous diffusion or in a gas centrifuge to produce enriched uranium suitable for use in weapons and reactors.
Yellowcake is produced by all countries in which uranium is mined.



Also, there's some info about where that shipment to Canada may have originated:

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The Tuwaitha facility south of Baghdad already possessed yellow cake uranium. Between 1980 and 1982, Iraq procured more than 400 tons of yellowcake from Portugal and Niger which remained in a storage complex close to Tuwaitha. The facility and its yellowcake were monitored and frequently inspected by the International Atomic Energy Agency after the 1991 Gulf War. About 1.8 metric tons of "yellow cake" and 500 tons of unrefined uranium went missing as the Iraqis left Tuwaitha unattended during the war. When the facility was first encountered by U.S. Marines, they thought they had stumbled upon an illegal weapons cache; according to nuclear experts, however, they actually wound up breaking the IAEA seals that are "designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use or end up in the wrong hands." The Pentagon dispatched a team to survey the site "after a month of official indecision", finding it heavily looted and said it was impossible to tell whether nuclear materials were missing.
In July of 2008, what was believed to be the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program, the United States government shipped 550 metric tonnes of concentrated natural uranium or yellowcake to Montreal, Canada. The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp.



So, it seems that the NEW Iraqi government - the one that WE installed - is now proliferating nuclear materials, selling them to the Canucks. Ironic, huh?

E

Takin' Care of Business, Baby!

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Monday, July 7, 2008 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Next you'll think the "news media" will let us in on the secret that algore actually didn't create the internet, Dan Blather wasn't really right, and 2/3 of all U.S. Presidential Impeachments really did involve Slick Willy.



Can't really help ya much on the Rather thing, but you've got some learning to do on the Al Gore and the Internet part:

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Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other [through what was called ARPANet]. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Taken in context, the sentence, despite some initial ambiguity, means that as a congressman Gore promoted the system we enjoy today, not that he could patent the science, though that's how the quotation has been manipulated. Hence the disingenuous substitution of "inventing" for the actual language.

But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."

The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."

Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"



And from Wiki:

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Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice-President, where he was a "genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible, let alone sexy, the poker-faced Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues." According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had exercised Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s."
Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.
As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill" ) after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock

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