Buffy season five was, without a doubt, the worst season of the series.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, August 4, 2008 15:01
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And after the brilliance of season 4,
give - it - up.
LOL
I'm w/Chisisall on the loving of season 4 - every single episode worked for me!
I just adore season 4!
seriously then - ok, yeah of course there are great episodes - it was a great show!;):):)
restless, superstar, hush, the two eps with Faith, the yoko factor - some of my all timers for sure.
and Veruca.... :)
But the Initiative never worked for me (nice idea - badly executed, which joss has acknowledged)...
Riley was more interesting to me in 5 and 6.
(triv: did you know Christian Kane auditioned for the role?
Joss thought he was TOO GOOD and cast him as Lindsey instead! Fact!)
the arc is - not so much. goes nowhere - doesn't develop or touch the characters in the sme way as 2,3,5 or 7.
the actual finale episode (NOT restless) is awful compared to other seasons.
the first few episodes are just absolutely dreadful:( Beer Bad? erk!
and Adam - well let's just say - well no, i won't even. (snickers)
there now - you fiends have forced me to play your devil's game once again!
because i am weak and cannot resist.
sob!
she rules.
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Quote:It worked for ME...
Originally posted by wytchcroft:
But the Initiative never worked for me (nice idea - badly executed, which joss has acknowledged)...
Quote:I liked him better before they vamped him in 5
Riley was more interesting to me in 5 and 6.
Quote:I liked the arc!
the arc is - not so much. goes nowhere - doesn't develop or touch the characters in the sme way as 2,3,5 or 7.
Quote:Funny, I loved it, and the government hush-hush coda.
the actual finale episode (NOT restless) is awful compared to other seasons.
Quote:Beer Bad cracks me up!
the first few episodes are just absolutely dreadful:( Beer Bad? erk!
Quote:Okay- I know, but even HE worked for me, that twisted demon/Frankenstein oreo mess...
and Adam - well let's just say - well no, i won't even. (snickers)
Quote:HA! We have a great influence over the weak-minded!!
there now - you fiends have forced me to play your devil's game once again!
because i am weak and cannot resist.
Darth Chrisisall
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well luckily the friend (who is watching for the first time) I'm watching with was influenced by MY love of season 4....
I'd be interested in HOW Joss said it didn't work, because it totally worked for me (of course I'm a long time lover all all sci-fi, and destroying secret government installations can never be a bad thing in my book!).
But how can anyone not be touched by combo Buffy? With Willow's witchy spirit, Gile's fine mind, and Xander's big heart, all combined with Buffy's strength they made a being which was untouchable!
My favorite line of all the seasons remains:
"you can never hope to grasp the source of our power....
but yours is right here"
(as she pulls out Adam's innards)
oh, except that I also will always love Willows line to Riley (who was totally re-bound boy in my book, I never worried about him one way or the other):
" If you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel. A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend. Have fun! "
New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!! 
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Yeah- I don't ever skip an ep of season 4. 3, 6, & 7 are like that too (except I skip Him in 7, actually).
Skip to my loo Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Yeah- I don't ever skip an ep of season 4. 3, 6, & 7 are like that too (except I skip Him in 7, actually).
Skip to my loo Chrisisall
oh no, you gotta get some love for 'Him'.... what with Buffy getting out her old birthday rocket launcher to blow away Principal Woods?
what is better than that?!?! LOL
New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!!
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Oooop! You're right, Em!!!
Intercontinental Bufflistic Misselisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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It had it's great moments (Buffy vs Dracula, Fool For Love, The Replacement, The Body), but overall the "Dawn is key' thing was silly, monks able to construct whole realities that fly so seamlessly is ludicrous, the idea that a 'god' can't just find the key if it wants is plain dumb, Riley lettin' vamps suck on him to find out the attraction or whatever was near insulting- they just wanted him gone and took that way out, a lovebot that actually gets our sympathy (what is this, Star Trek or sumthin'???), and the need for Buffy to die to save the world was at best a little contrived.
Plus a stupid 'evil alien from the meteorite' thing that really had no business in this or any season...
I just got the season & went through it- hadn't seen it in years- now I remember exactly why I hadn't bought it before...all my technical problems with it aside, it's too gorram depressing!!!
The depressing factor in season six, by comparison, was way more realistic & less contrived IMO- there were ways out of it in that one, all of season five was just leading to the 'Death Of Buffy', and I for one, wont be watching very much of that season again any time soon.
But- that's just my take on it, your mileage may (and obviously does) vary.
Chrisisall, Chrisisall... Chris.
What am I gonna do wid yooz?
So you really think Season six is better than season Five. ok fair 'nuff but lets look a few elements of your argument:
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all of season five was just leading to the 'Death Of Buffy'
Well that's no criticism.... Season six is all about Willow going 'evil'. That's the general seasonal arc formula they established since season one. I personally was more into the death of Buffy than I was about WIllow turning evil. Still if you likes your redheads veiny or vainy then... this is the season for you.
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Plus a stupid 'evil alien from the meteorite' thing that really had no business in this or any season...
Granted this one is very silly! However you have to admit the thing crawling around the walls freaking the hell out of Joyce was a might creepyfying! Poor story well directed methinks.
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Riley lettin' vamps suck on him to find out the attraction or whatever was near insulting- they just wanted him gone and took that way out,
It was a cry for help for the ol Rilester! Classic fallen hero motif. I kinda liked that side to his story, gave him some much needed edge.
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"Dawn is key' thing was silly, monks able to construct whole realities that fly so seamlessly is ludicrous, the idea that a 'god' can't just find the key if it wants is plain dumb,
Well we've had silly from these guys before but if it's written well enough I think it can work. Giant Snake!? of season 3!... It's silly but if handled well it works. I enjoyed the Dawn creation - I thought it was really clever and it gave us some great comedy with the episode where she narrates her diary. That was awesome!
Not to sure how I feel about Glory. On one hand I get what you are saying about a God being more capable, but then there's nothing to say that a God must be all conquering... There are plenty of mythologies where Gods have very basic 'human' flaws. And those flaws facilitate their demise... So it worked for me...
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The depressing factor in season six, by comparison, was way more realistic & less contrived IMO
Woah!!!! Nah what you been smokin my good buddy? The carpet? Sorry but the whole bringing Buffy back from the dead with witchcraft was BOGUS. It needed something more, something greater... A few chants and a mouthful of snake (freudian anyone?) was poor and lacked vision. Season sixes darkness was in such contrast with the Nerds that it fractured the show. At times you felt the regular cast didn't have their hearts in the job, and so focus shifted onto the trio who frankly were far more watchable, maybe because the writers had trapped the main protagonists into a very complex corner where any fun with them just c
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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
Dude, you just started a thread, like, 3 weeks ago for the purpose of ripping S5. Did we really need another one so soon?Couldn't you have just bumped the previous one?
I mean, I know the conversation's been lagging in this forum (and the "Angel" one) for awhile now, but can't we get some new topics going, rather than being redundant with stuff we've just recently talked about?
Yeah cause, like, this site NEVER has threads rehashing the same tired stuff over and over and over.
ChrisIsaSaint. I agree "Dawn is the Key" was shite. Buffy was a bitch and WHO CARED about season 5. Not to mention the whole WHERE THE HELL IS OZ thing.
But its not like it bothers me or anything.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Quote:Again, it all depends on what you yourself bring to the party. Some folks HATE Beer Bad or Buffy Vs. Dracula, but I liked 'em both...Groos warned me that Smashed was going to test my affection for the series, but I ended up embracing that one too. We each bring a certain sensibility to whatever we watch or read, but we can all agree, I think, that Buffy, as a whole, was supremely awesome.
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
It's safe to say we won't reach common ground on this one, but it's not bad after Seven seasons.
Chrisisall
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Quote:I have a hard time thinking up new titles for repetitive threads myself...
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Yeah cause, like, this site NEVER has threads rehashing the same tired stuff over and over and over.
(How many Dark Angel-on-a-pedestal threads have I started?)
ChrisChrisChrisisall
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