If you like Bush & what he's done to this world, you are evil.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 19:38
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Oh come on. It's a simple question.
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But if a terrorist was acting in defence when people were killing his family then this would be good.
Isn't that part of the current situation in Iraq?
When you leave me nothing to live for, all you leave me is something to die for. What's left to me is to choose how, when, and where.
THAT is the situation we have put ourselves in in Iraq.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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Completely unrelated, do you think that there would have been a more positive public response to the Iraq war if Arnold Swarteneggar had been the president instead of George Bush during the time of the Iraq war? I think Arnold would have said 2 words beacause in the terminator he often said 2 words and he would have been believed.
Completely irrelevant. Schwarzeneggar CAN NOT be the President of the United States, without a Constitutional Amendment. See Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5, which reads in its entirety:
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No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
It's the first seven words that render Ahnolt's candidacy a non-issue. Might as well ask "What would have happened if Jesus Christ had been President on 9/11? Would he have miracled our asses out of a real bummer of a situation?"
Also, in the real world, you often encounter people who just steadfastly refuse to follow your script, so two words might not have been enough, or believed, unless those two words were "Oh, SHIT!"
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Hey what stopped ya from being a human shield. Most dudes I know who work for Haliburton are democrats. I contract so I get around. The goverment can't handle dudes like me. Syria we need to blast off the face of the earth, then Ole Persia, stay in Iraq so europa gets their oil. The US gets it from Kuwait, SA, and Oman. Look scumming ole england after ww1. The bad US had to go over and bail em out. Were still there because we don't trust those idiots to have a military. Your propaganda don't work on me. Just like little villages in Vietnam stock piling rice huts for the enemy. Their just peaceful people scratching out a living. Rome was still the best place to live.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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If you don't think the action will help stop someone from killing you then it is more like revenge.
You're getting warmer...
I think you're falling into the Administration's talking-points trap, wherein you think Iraq was somehow linked to Osama Bin Laden and September Eleven. Going into Afghanistan, "revenge" or not, was completely justified in my view. Bin Laden was there, the Taliban gave him safe harbor and thought they were immune to any retribution, and showing them quite forcefully the error of their ways was a justifiable response.
I have no love for Bin Laden or for any terrorist. Find Osama, put him on trial, convict him, sentence him to death, and I will personally volunteer to put 30 bullets in that giant misshapen head of his (and this is coming from a far-left liberal!).
But we took our eye off the prize, and decided to wage war on Iraq instead, and instead of dealing a blow to terrorism and jihadis around the world, we gave them something worth fighting for - and they are, in droves. And because of our actions in Iraq, we are now seen as the invaders, the occupiers, the oppressors, and we've created more terrorists than we ever thought we could. Some of them are no doubt doing it because they truly believe in their mission (much like some of our forces), some because they just want to be in the action and hopefully be seen as a "hero" when it's all said and done (much like some of our forces), and some of them are doubtless there just to try to blow some shit up (much like some of our forces). There ARE evil people there, on both sides. What we call a "terrorist" in this war would have been called a "guerilla" in another time, or even a "minuteman" 240 years ago (remember, they didn't play by the rules, either, positioning snipers to take out high-ranking officers, in direct contravention of the accepted rules of warfare at the time). What WE saw as patriotism and crafty fighting during the Revolutionary War, the British saw as terrorism and unacceptable behavior by a band of insurgents.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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Originally posted by PirateCat:
Hey what stopped ya from being a human shield. Most dudes I know who work for Haliburton are democrats. I contract so I get around. The goverment can't handle dudes like me. Syria we need to blast off the face of the earth, then Ole Persia, stay in Iraq so europa gets their oil. The US gets it from Kuwait, SA, and Oman. Look scumming ole england after ww1. The bad US had to go over and bail em out. Were still there because we don't trust those idiots to have a military. Your propaganda don't work on me. Just like little villages in Vietnam stock piling rice huts for the enemy. Their just peaceful people scratching out a living. Rome was still the best place to live.
Now that, my freinds, was some genuine Frontier American gibberish.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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This rag head is running around in Jolly Ole England after being freed on bail. Thanks President George W. Bush. Glad America has Gitmo to hold, torture, and poke at the animals of humanity.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by PirateCat:
This rag head is running around in Jolly Ole England after being freed on bail. Thanks President George W. Bush. Glad America has Gitmo to hold, torture, and poke at the animals of humanity.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
Wow - you're thanking Bush for freeing him?
As for Gitmo, don't hold your breath on that one. Seems the Supremes had a li'l somethin' to say on the subject...
But I totally understand your need to torture people to get your jollies; it's a pretty common thing amongst sociopaths. I don't AGREE with it, but I understand that you need it to feel like a real man.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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I'm still trying to figure out how PirateCat is related to PirateNews. hmmm....
SergeantX
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Originally posted by mazaen:
Can I ask you a question? Do you think terrorists are evil or just acting in defense? Because I don't think bombing people to make others conform to a religious belief is defending islam or a country. I think it as offensive as an attack. There is no goodness in that at all. But if a terrorist was acting in defence when people were killing his family then this would be good. The difference between defence and offence is when you hope to repel the ememy by the size of your peace time army or by taking action that you hope will reduce the offensive actions of the other party on your country. If you don't think the action will help stop someone from killing you then it is more like revenge.
So, how does this apply to Iraq? They didn't attack us, so there goes that. And those who have killed Americans have been striking out against those who invaded their country, so there's your self-defense.
Your points do not match up.
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