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If you like Bush & what he's done to this world, you are evil.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:30 PM

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I feel sorry for Rapo. He's driven by fear, which can apparently only be assuaged by burying himself into the middle of the biggest, toughest herd he can find. And now, he's thinking that his herd may be dissolving from around him. No wonder he's so paranoid. He sees every question as a defection from the group that's between him and the other.j


I love how some of you pocket psychologist have it all figured out, or so you think. Herd or no, dealing head on w/ the problems facing our country is the best solution. There's no paranoia here, just understanding. SOME want to deny it, placate those who vow to murder us , at any expense, and simply go on living their day, as if it were like any other. I'm just glad my country has leaders who are willing to do the right thing.



Prove it.

Mike




Prove what, exactly ?

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:32 PM

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Originally posted by mazaen:
Can I ask you a question? Do you think terrorists are evil or just acting in defense? Because I don't think bombing people to make others conform to a religious belief is defending islam or a country. I think it as offensive as an attack. There is no goodness in that at all. But if a terrorist was acting in defence when people were killing his family then this would be good. The difference between defence and offence is when you hope to repel the ememy by the size of your peace time army or by taking action that you hope will reduce the offensive actions of the other party on your country. If you don't think the action will help stop someone from killing you then it is more like revenge.



So, how does this apply to Iraq? They didn't attack us, so there goes that. And those who have killed Americans have been striking out against those who invaded their country, so there's your self-defense.

Your points do not match up.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



I believe the terrorist connection has something to do with the camps for training terrorists and the known harboring of terrorists in Iraq, as well as the believed program for developing weapons of mass destruction such as the chemical weapons they used on the Kurds and the few kilograms of uranium it was thought he had from the time after the Israeli Fighter pilots bombed the Iraqi nuclear power plant. I think the real reason for our attacking Iraq was to get rid of the Iraqi Regime in place there and make an attempt at rebuilding the Government to that of a modern “Democracy,” so that the Middle Eastern nations surrounding Iraq would have a model to follow and some pressures to adapt. I also think there may be a tactical decision to attack Iraq so that we already have a large footprint in the area incase a larger war breaks out because I don’t think Kuwait was large enough for our military.

Personally I do think that we should allow duels and if a person isn't strong enough to accept the duel or not inclined then I think we should have the lawyers fight in ouer duels.



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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:41 PM

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I feel sorry for Rapo. He's driven by fear, which can apparently only be assuaged by burying himself into the middle of the biggest, toughest herd he can find. And now, he's thinking that his herd may be dissolving from around him. No wonder he's so paranoid. He sees every question as a defection from the group that's between him and the other.j


I love how some of you pocket psychologist have it all figured out, or so you think. Herd or no, dealing head on w/ the problems facing our country is the best solution. There's no paranoia here, just understanding. SOME want to deny it, placate those who vow to murder us , at any expense, and simply go on living their day, as if it were like any other. I'm just glad my country has leaders who are willing to do the right thing.



Prove it.

Mike




Prove what, exactly ?

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Prove that your country has leaders that want to do the right thing.

"Prove it" has become your standard response to anything you disagree with, so I thought it would be a good thing to throw back your way.



Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:51 PM

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I feel sorry for Rapo. He's driven by fear, which can apparently only be assuaged by burying himself into the middle of the biggest, toughest herd he can find. And now, he's thinking that his herd may be dissolving from around him. No wonder he's so paranoid. He sees every question as a defection from the group that's between him and the other.j


I love how some of you pocket psychologist have it all figured out, or so you think. Herd or no, dealing head on w/ the problems facing our country is the best solution. There's no paranoia here, just understanding. SOME want to deny it, placate those who vow to murder us , at any expense, and simply go on living their day, as if it were like any other. I'm just glad my country has leaders who are willing to do the right thing.



Prove it.

Mike




Prove what, exactly ?

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Prove that your country has leaders that want to do the right thing.

"Prove it" has become your standard response to anything you disagree with, so I thought it would be a good thing to throw back your way.



Mike




No, it was YOU who made the assertion first that I was 'scared' , and not driven by reason , facts or prudence. When a group tells you they are at war w/ you, want to destroy you and have shown they mean to do EXACTLY that, you had better pay attention. That's all I'm saying we do , is focus in on the issue here.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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RUE
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:16 PM

"Glad America has Gitmo to hold, torture, and poke at the animals of humanity."

Would that be the people in Gitmo, or the people running Gitmo ?


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RUE
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:18 PM

"When a group tells you they are at war w/ you, want to destroy you and have shown they mean to do EXACTLY that, you had better pay attention."

Pay no attention to whether or not they have the means to actually do what they say ! It's irrelevant !


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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
There's really no discussion; if you support lies, torture & war profiteering, then you are in Congress with the Beast. You are evil by mis-interpreting reality, or by embracing greed by way of death.

May God have mercy, 'cause Bush won't.


Biped Planetisall





Somethings never change. Do they? Your posts still reek of flame bait and your mind is still a cess pool of immaturity...that I am sure of. So, how have you been?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:25 PM

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Somethings never change. Do they? Your posts still reek of flame bait and your mind is still a cess pool of immaturity...

I don't disagree with any particular point sir.
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So, how have you been?
Pretty good...great in fact- I just got Burn Notice on DVD!!!
Haven't seen you here much...you okay?
Isn't life a miraculous thing? (a little Dancing Demon there for U Buffy fans...)

Friendly neighbourhood Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:11 PM

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No, it was YOU who made the assertion first that I was 'scared' , and not driven by reason , facts or prudence.



Refresh my memory; when and where was it exactly that I made this assertion? If you're referring to the first quoted part of your post, those words belong to someone else, not me. Not that I don't find some truth in them, but I didn't write them.

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When a group tells you they are at war w/ you, want to destroy you and have shown they mean to do EXACTLY that, you had better pay attention. That's all I'm saying we do , is focus in on the issue here.


Kind of what I've been saying since September 12. And what does that have to do with Iraq, exactly? If Saddam told us after Gulf War Pt. 1 that he was still at war with us, he did a singularly shitty job of convincing anyone. We were able to fly unmolested through the No-Fly Zones for about a decade, during which time Saddam's "elite" forces would occasionally fire up their targeting radars, only to be immediately answered with an ARM (Anti-Radar Missile) being jammed down their throats. Saddam wasn't even a threat to Americans in his own country, much less to America itself.




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:02 PM

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We were able to fly unmolested through the No-Fly Zones for about a decade, during which time Saddam's "elite" forces would occasionally fire up their targeting radars,....



That act right there, was against the cease fire agreements from the 1st Gulf War. Locking tone on ANY Coalition ship was strictly forbidden, and yet Iraq forces did this CONSTANTLY, even firing off a few shots, now and then. That's just one of a long long list of things Saddam was doing which had nothing to do w/ 9/11

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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