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If you like Bush & what he's done to this world, you are evil.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 19:38
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RUE
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:19 PM

"Rememebr when the Twin Towers were first attacked? And Clintons response to it?"

Ehhh, he caught, prosecuted and jailed the people responsible. Put al Qaeda on HIS personal map - had a cabinet level terrorist watch group which actually tried to warn Bush about 9/11 (before Bush dismantled it and then outed a covert CIA operative). Kept the US safe for the balance of his terms.

AND balanced the budget, put the US on good terms with allies and new friends, and had a great US economy to boot. Remember those heady days when people were actually wondering how to spend the surplus ?

You have a problem with that ?

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Bush OTOH let bin Laden go, let al Qaeda regroup, blinded himself on the real mid-east threat (Iran) by outing the one person who had a chance of getting nuclear information (Plame), attacked a bystander nation ... busted the budget and alienated pretty much everyone, which wrecked the economy and sank the dollar.

And you don't have a problem with that ?

Because why ? Because Bush stuffed a codpiece in the front of his flightsuit, waddled like a baby with an overfull diaper, and declared Iraq done ?

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:20 PM

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But it's war against no one, with no victory conditions. It's Orwell's perpetual war and it's no coincidence our leaders have followed his blueprint for sustaining it.


This is what I've been saying since before the war, when Bush claimed his "Global War on Terror" - it's a war on *ideas*, a war on *thoughts*. After all, what exactly constitutes "terror"? Anything and everything that is aimed at terrorizing people or terrifying them? Are horror movies then considered "terror"? What about news reports? What about Republican ad campaigns? Are those terror?

You've launched a war against a tenuous, invisible enemy who's ever-changing, and you can never, ever win it, but you've got what you wanted: the Long War.

EC

Takin' Care of Business, Baby!

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

If a Democrat had been in the office when 9/11 happened, they would have limpwristed their way through it. 9/11 was an act of war. Not a police action...



You mean that if McCain had been in office, he'd have surrendered and denounced America? He's done it before!

Just wondering.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:38 PM

So Rapo, have you figured out yet how we can agree on your essential point, which is tackling the problem of jihadism head-on?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:10 AM

If don't support Bush you don't believe in defending yourself and the innocent in your own country and supporting bombing murders, believing that evil people are really misunderstood souls and hiding behind rhetoric I think your entitled to your opinion.

How is your evil meter?I wonder if your your evil meter is working. Some people have a good evil meter and some people's evil meter's just don't work very well. My mother's evil meter is pathetic( although she herself is pretty great) so she borrows my excellent evil meter when she dates a man. She asks me whether I like him and I usually tell her I don't and then she doesn't go out with him anymore.

I've known evil people unfortunately. Those evil persons are a long story and I won't discuss it now. As a result of knowing evil people I have developed an uncanny sense of people who are good indifferent or evil and good people just from passing them. I got a really bad feeling when I once passed a bloke on a bus and just from that awful vibe, I deliberately sat a long way away from him. When I stepped off the bus I mentioned him to the person who was picking me up and she told me he was convicted of raping an old lady 5 years ago.

Completely unrelated, do you think that there would have been a more positive public response to the Iraq war if Arnold Swarteneggar had been the president instead of George Bush during the time of the Iraq war? I think Arnold would have said 2 words beacause in the terminator he often said 2 words and he would have been believed.

To the person who said Clinton was handsome I would like to respond by saying that Clinton is not handsome at all!


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RUE
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:09 AM

Was this supposed to read "If YOU don't support Bush you don't believe in defending yourself and the innocent in your own country and supporting bombing murders, believing that evil people are really misunderstood souls and hiding behind rhetoric I think your entitled to your opinion."

May I ask you a question or two ? How did bombing and killing tens to hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis fight 'evil' ? And, uhhmm, since you claim such a great evil-meter - why didn't this obviously wanton destruction of human life that made 9/11 pale in scope - make yours peg-out ?

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My evil-meter is pretty good - I deduced Bush was a sociopath from during his first campaign.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:19 AM

If it had been a terrorist who killed a large number of Iraqis (And actually quite a large portion were killed by terrorsts)my evil meter would definantly start humming.

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RUE
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:28 AM

So you don't define people as evil by what they do. You define them as evil according to who you think they are. They are evil b/c I think they're terrorists and terrorists are evil.

Nice circular logic. And by that I mean idiotic.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:38 AM

Can I ask you a question? Do you think terrorists are evil or just acting in defense? Because I don't think bombing people to make others conform to a religious belief is defending islam or a country. I think it as offensive as an attack. There is no goodness in that at all. But if a terrorist was acting in defence when people were killing his family then this would be good. The difference between defence and offence is when you hope to repel the ememy by the size of your peace time army or by taking action that you hope will reduce the offensive actions of the other party on your country. If you don't think the action will help stop someone from killing you then it is more like revenge.

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RUE
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:43 AM

I think bombing a country that wasn't hurting you and wasn't going to hurt you is evil. Agreed ?

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