"Bored now."

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FARWALL

Sunday, May 9, 2004 11:41 PM

Have to say, I love the delivery of the phrase "bored now" and everyone I knew at Uni (litterally everyone I hung out with at Uni where big buffy fans, and this was a group of upto 40 people) picked up on it straight away and addopted it as common tongue (along with many, many other phrases and gramatical quirkes from Buffy, or, as I now realise from having seen Firefly, from Joss Whedon).
So it just seemed completely natural to see Willow use it again 4, or so, seasons later.

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AURAPTOR

Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:35 PM

For me, 'Bored now' is Willow's most vivid quote. Something about it and / or its delivery by Willow just stands out. Hi-larious. Agree lots w/ what was already said here. Just one of those lines that made me chuckle to myself every time I think of it. No shortage of those, but still.... good thread.

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OBJECTIVEASSESSMENT

Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:00 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:

Willow: "I never said that..."
And Xander cuts here off.

And as we all know, the signifigance was that Xander wanted Angel gone (Xander always hated Angel, soul or not) and so lied to Buffy that Willow could get Angels' soul back in time (with a spell).

I beg to differ. I think Xander didn't tell Buffy about the spell because, if he did, then Buffy would have went into the fight half hearted, not wanting to kill Angelus incase Willow could turn him back into Angel. If Buffy done this she would probably have been killed. While not condoning Xander's behaviour I think he did what he thought was best for Buffy, just like he did all through the series.

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NUR

Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:30 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
For me, 'Bored now' is Willow's most vivid quote. Something about it and / or its delivery by Willow just stands out.

I agree completely, if someone asked me to pick a completely random Willow quote "Bored now, want to play." would be the first thing to jump into my head. Someone mentioned earlier that they hear Willow's voice everytime they read it and I'm exactly the same way. It was just one of those perfectly executed moments. This is a little off topic but its the same for Drucilla's "It fills my head with singing." and Simon's "Your patient should be dead." They just seem to fit into that little nook of brain reserved for those characters and always come up when pondering.

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LENNIER

Friday, May 28, 2004 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
'Bored now' is Willows inner self screaming for love. It signifies her shell like existance in spite of her growth as a woman. When Willow forgets what a special person she is she can be very self-destructive. She regresses into that little schoolgirl who is 'bored' (a passive aggressive responce) with the world around her.

It also shows that Willow has a deep emptyness that can come out in irrational violence. Veins and all.

Great comments!
I have a similar take on her, though for me the key is all in Willows self-hate and self-doubt (as best illustrated by her dream in "Restless"), and she feels as if she is worthless on a fundamental level, and that everything good about her are things that she has built up as an outside 'shell', but that aren't really 'her' (this is not true, though there is a some tiny truth to it ...but Willow believes it overly much, and believes it on a 'deep' level that she's not entirely aware of). All of the coolness etc. that she's built up, she feels is a sham (again, as illustrated by Restless, though reinforced by SO many other things). Her self-hate/self-doubt, as is common, led her to use magic as a way to escape herself (magic as a drug, and also as power, or as a metaphor for anything we can use to escape) ...especially after loosing Tara, another 'external' thing that gave her some value.
Here's a better way to put it: she *thinks* she can only find value through things outside of herself. Without Tara, she has no value, and she can't face that, and has to escape into another world where these things don't matter. First it was magic-as-drug/pleasure, and finally it was magic as a way to shut out the world completely (when Tara died), as a way of escaping reality and denying her emotions (the pain emotions that is ...the anger emotions were the 'safe' ones she could escape into). That's how she became a 'different person' as evil Willow, because she had escaped herself ...though enough of her remains that this emotion-less moral-less vessel is equivalent to vampire-Willow (making her use that same phrase 'bored now').
Well, i'm writing this rushed, so it may not all be right, but you probably get the idea (in fact, you've probably thought of this all already!).

(There's also a side point about how Willow's morality was always a bit thin, and usually it wasn't a problem simply because she always is trying to *please* everyone, and wants to be liked ....but I won't get into that)

by the way, this does not apply so much to her s7 self, especially not at the end of the season, where she begins to really grow past this. But it applies for most of s1-s6 (and I'm not saying it's often 'on the surface', I'm not saying she's wallowing in self-hate all the time, though you do see the self-doubt constantly even in her speech-style), it's just something that I think is hiding on a deep level, and 'exploded' outwards in season 6.

Also, I'm failing to articulate the most important part, which is the way Willow escaped into POWER ...it was really the power that magic gave her which allowed her to escape from herself and allowed her to take value from something outside of herself (and we see this escape into power take many different forms in the different episodes).
And this sort of escape from self was a lot of what s6 was about (ties into all of Buffy's stuff with Spike, and even a lot of the other characters; Warren is the best example, on the 'dark' side, and is a great foil for Willow too).
I emphasize this power thing because a lot of fans became overly fixated on the drug metaphor, but really that was just one classic way to express a larger problem, something that can apply to any circumstance where we do something to escape something we don't like; there was only the one episode that really hit the drug thing on the end, and the other episodes (though occasionally making the references) were about something more general
(and even in that episode, I would argue that drugs are a metaphor for the way that

GHOULMAN

Friday, May 28, 2004 7:00 PM

Terrific and detailed comments Lennier ! Great comments indeed. Right back at ya!

Is it too obvious I've a crush on Willow? Tee hee...

JOHNCLARK

Friday, May 28, 2004 7:19 PM

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Terrific and detailed comments Lennier ! Great comments indeed. Right back at ya!

Is it too obvious I've a crush on Willow? Tee hee...

Who doesn't?

Lennier - good analysis

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ARAWAEN

Friday, May 28, 2004 7:58 PM

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^^^ it's continuity. Canon is something Star Trek nerds use to nail down detailed timelines and tech evolution, etc. Which is great fun if you're an aspiring engineer. It's not important to story telling as long as you don't really frell up something obvious ... like Romulans NOT having invisibility.

I don't think trek can fairly use the word continuity anymore.

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Continuity in story telling is a sign of a mature drama. Yeah Joss! :)

Unfortunately it also seems to be a big turn off for tv executives. They claim new people can't get into the show. I think it is 'go-se' because I didn't start watching Buffy until 3rd season and I became addicted nonetheless.

Arawaen

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LENNIER

Saturday, May 29, 2004 10:46 PM

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Terrific and detailed comments Lennier ! Great comments indeed. Right back at ya!

Is it too obvious I've a crush on Willow? Tee hee...

Who doesn't?

Lennier - good analysis

I second that 'who doesn't'!!

Thanks! you know, I have to say, when I try to talk about this sort of stuff on Buffy boards I usually get a "shut yer hole, season 6 sucks and your comments about Willow are wrong". That is just to give you an idea of how much I appreciate your appreciation.

Thank you ever so very much for not 'attacking' me.

SOUTHERNMERC

Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:04 PM

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Continuity in story telling is a sign of a mature drama. Yeah Joss! :)

Unfortunately it also seems to be a big turn off for tv executives. They claim new people can't get into the show. I think it is 'go-se' because I didn't start watching Buffy until 3rd season and I became addicted nonetheless.

TV execs can be stupid like that. I didn't get into Buffy until season six! Then I just HAD to watch the other seasons...even went out and bought them all on DVD (goin through the first season I watched right now actually, season 6)!

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