Over rated Buffy episodes
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UPDATED: Sunday, June 15, 2008 05:46
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Quote:Yeah, she didn't save the day or anything, her appearance in season 7 smacked of mere simple realism...she was just there to take pressure off Buffy, not for thrilling heroics...hey- maybe that's why I liked it!
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
In spite of Faith being my favorite character, her appearance in S7 was pretty much a big "whatever"for me. What did she actually do?
Y'know Groos, I LIKE some inconsistency, some plain moments, some self-mocking. I didn't mind the lack of focus on peripheral characters- they were well explored for six seasons...I didn't mind that Buffy had her arms folded in practically every shot...
I don't see the need to go all Burninator on it...
With the notable exception of Him, season seven is pure gold to me, just like season three.
That's my brand of kipper.
Wounded dwarfisall
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Well you asked for it with a thread like this so I'll go ahead and be honest and get everyone to hate me all at once. "The Body"
I never liked the episode. I don't feel like SMG pulled it off at all. Oh I'm going to stutter now to show that I can't process all this emotion. Yeah never seen a real person stutter like that or stutter in an emotional situation. Both were a huge failure IMO. Stuff like that happens through the whole episode that prevents me from ever feeling like the events are real. I don't even think it's totally SMGs fault. Some of it could have been written more realistically too.
Now back to conversations with dead people. I'm sorta glad I haven't listend to the commentary on that one. I never once thought Dawn was fighting with the first. I thought the first was messing with Willow and obviously a little with Spike. Other than that I thought the vamp was a real vamp and Dawn was dealing with her actual Mom. I thought all the clues about how the was a corporeal fight and how Joyce didn't look as real as the first does when it appears any other time in the season were are clues that it wasn't the first. I'm just going to stick with my fan wank on that one I guess. Though I was always disappointed that it never really went anywhere. Best I could come up with was that it tipped Dawn off to the Xander abduction.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
With the notable exception of Him, season seven is pure gold to me, just like season three.
Heh, "Him" is one of the three or four S7 episodes that I actually DO like...
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In regards to "The Body", I don't get what you're talking about with the stuttering. I don't remember any stuttering from SMG. I remember the horribly vacant look on Joyce's face as her corpse was sprawled out on the couch, the fact that scenes took place in real time and with no music, the disjointed editing and inserts of close ups, the horrified look on Buffy's face when she finally refers to Joyce as "the body" (I always saw that moment as the real moment Buffy realizes that she's dead, not the close up of the numbers on the phone that Joss says on the commentary track) and each of the supporting character's own meltdowns. The only flaw in the whole ep was the vampire in the morgue. That to me seemed out of place to have a bit of fantasy in an ep that had the real world crashing into the series.
Other than that, it is IMHO, the best ep of the entire series.
As per Faith in S7, I always saw it as just a further developing of the tragic nature of Faith and Buffy's relationship. Here you have Faith genuinely trying to do good, to help train these girls, to take a different approach in boosting morale, and Buffy so blinded by her hatred and betrayal from her becoming even more isolated from her makeshift family and from the girls she's trying to protect and transform. I loved the bit where Faith calls her out on not even knowing the girls' names.
In the comics, the one thing that kinda disappointed me was the fact that Buffy still keeps slapping away the hand that Faith holds out for peace between the two of them. You would think that after all that they've gone through, that Buffy would have somehow learned to forgive her. Faith has been doing nothing but trying to redeem herself. She's hit rock bottom (Angel was there to witness it) and now she's trying to get back up, but Buffy still keeps kicking her down. That, as well as setting themselves up as targets by robbing vaults and plundering. I don't think she's there yet as a true leader.
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