Buffy season five had Glory, a lovebot with feelings, and a mental breakdown- where's that get fun?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, July 13, 2008 23:52
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THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:35 PM

Chrisisall wrote:

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At least the final season didn't kill off the main character in a vain & desperate attempt to be 'meaningful'.

Why Chris ol' bean, I wouldn't have taken you for the cynical type? D'you really think the Jossone would stoop to such 'hack' type lows....

I always wanted the Buffy character to die in battle trying to save the world, it's somehow so much more epic and poetic, or 'poepic' (yes I made that word up and I'm liking it actually!)

I think season five had a kind of unforced darkness that suited where the season went.

I liked the episodes where Dawn does the narration in her diary, and where Dracula makes an entrance and the way all the girls are swooning over him. Plus it allowed Xander to utter those great words about not being anyones but monkey! Cracked me up. Glory, whilst a bit of a strange nemisis, did have some superb lines, and those minions constant reach for superlatives in describing her magnificence did put a smile on my face everytime. The medieval clan was fun too.

One episode that frequently is overlooked is FOREVER, where Dawn attempts to bring Joyce back from the dead. I thought that was really powerful, because lets face it who hasn't lost a loved one and wished so desperately to somehow be able to bring them back. That tugged at the heart strings almost as much as The Body. To put a character like Dawn under such a temptation was brilliant.

But hey, each to their own brand of kipper right?

Rix

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:41 PM

Gee Som...when ya put it like that....
Truth is, first box set of season 5 I see for $20 or less is mine.

After all my weedgingisall

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:43 PM

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Originally posted by wytchcroft:
ok sunshine - dueling pistols at dawn (no, not THAT dawn!)

'dracula sucks' aside - (and hell, even that aint as bad as the crappy bits of 4)

this is my favourite season and by a long, long, long, long way. (and you KNOW i am a Faith fan too) and you best BELIEVE i get the urge to watch it.

the scoobs are peaking (SMG apparently lost interest after here and started 'going through the motions')- aly especially. but Spike gets many awesome scenes.

the BEST costumes of the show (er, except SMG's trousers in the gift).

the photography is rich and the lighting and lense use the best of the show. the budget is used effectively and the direction is cinematic and fluid. ok - enuff of that.

Fool for Love, The Gift, The Body, real me, family, The Replacement,intervention, checkpoint and on and on - these are prime bloody episodes!

the occasionally limiting aspects of the highschool show have gone, to be replaced with great weight (pun, no pun - your call) which has yet to crush the show beneath it (parts of the much underrated 6th season and some of 7) enuff of that.

DARK WILLOW!

Tough Giles (and not Pod-Giles!)

KILL THEM BOTH SPOCK! (and the snoopy dance)

Tara

Glory

much truly top notch pythonesque minion taunting

the season has real waves to it - humour , sadness, action, power - but never feels choppy and dislocated.

the finale (despite many production traumas) is just stunning (expect for - see above).

Wow... I'm not sure I've ever seen season five as someones favourite season before... That is interesting. Good on you. Must say it's nice to see you mention the production. It was good wasn't it. (except Dracula's wardrobe :P)

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Gee Som...when ya put it like that....
Truth is, first box set of season 5 I see for $20 or less is mine.

Does Joss pay commission, I think I may have earnt it

Ha, Ha!

P.S. it wasn't a Jedi mind trick!

WYTCHCROFT

Friday, June 13, 2008 9:19 AM

what about angel then? chris? anyone?
(tip toes mischievously away, having lit the touch paper...) heh heh heh

REGINAROADIE

Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:59 AM

I totally agree with "Forever" being an underrated episode. That they were able to continue with the emotional bang of "The Body" and expand upon it. The funeral preparations, Spike dropping off flowers, Buffy and Angel in the graveyard and Xander and Anya's post-coital discussion is some of my favorite stuff in Season 5. And that final scene is probably the best it of acting SMG has ever done. Just that line of "Of..COURSE...I care." is right up there with Edie Falco saying "Lunch?" to Tony in the "Isabella" episode of THE SOPRANOS in an example of a single line reading that speaks volumes. And Buffy basically admitting that she has no idea what to do really shows just how much of an impact Joyce had on the series. She really was one of the best characters on the show, and her character transformation over the five years was incredible. That even though her daughter was the Slayer and is this powerful being that has to save the world over and over, she was still her mother.

Fro whatever mis-steps season 5 may have taken, Joyce's illness and death elevated it above everything else. It was a sobering bit of reality that was needed to balance out the heavy fantasy angle the show was saturated in.

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"And it starts with a sentence that might last a lifetime, or it all might just go down in flames. If I let you know me, then why would you want me? Each day I don't is a shame. Each day I don't is a great shame."

Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:01 AM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:

Joyce's illness and death elevated it above everything else. It was a sobering bit of reality that was needed to balance out the heavy fantasy angle the show was saturated in.

I wouldn't say it elevated above 'everything else', but it was amazing television.

Missing Joyceisall

THESOMNAMBULIST

Monday, June 16, 2008 8:56 AM

wytchcroft wrote:

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what about angel then? chris? anyone?
(tip toes mischievously away, having lit the touch paper...) heh heh heh

Most of season five. Including Spike just didn't work. Also bringing back Lindsey as some sort of threat failed to make an impact, and Eve and the supposed sexual tension was way off.

Wes and Fred's 'moment' did absolutely nothing for me... By this stage Joss had overused the 'true loves' that cannot be theme and it just didn't make a dent in my ol' pump.

There's more but I'll come back to it...

EMBERS

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:34 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Gee Som...when ya put it like that....
Truth is, first box set of season 5 I see for $20 or less is mine.

After all my weedgingisall

keep an eye on Costco, I found sets there for $16/each
(that is how I finally picked up all the Angel seasons!)

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

EMBERS

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:41 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Re Angel:
Most of season five. Including Spike just didn't work. Also bringing back Lindsey as some sort of threat failed to make an impact, and Eve and the supposed sexual tension was way off.

Wes and Fred's 'moment' did absolutely nothing for me... By this stage Joss had overused the 'true loves' that cannot be theme and it just didn't make a dent in my ol' pump.

There's more but I'll come back to it...

Wow.... I have to say just about EVERYTHING in Angel's S5 worked for me!
I loved Angel's relationship w/Spike
I loved Cordy out of the coma for a day
I HATED Eve, but then her relationship w/Lindsay made up for it
and I adored Hamilton (I always adore Adam Baldwin)
Fred's death didn't move me, but I was blown away by Illyria
Everything about Wesley worked for me.... particularly:
Illyria 'pretending' as he died'

I hate to say it, but Angel's s5 was really the only Angel season that I loved. Other than that I just liked a few episodes in seasons I found kind of dull and pointless....

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

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