Dumbest thing in FF/Serenity...

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, June 2, 2008 18:08
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AURAPTOR

Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
"Capital City"

I hate when shows do that. Who cares if they said you're the finest doctor in all of "schumtzville"? We'd still assume it's a pretty good complement. If the alliance was really that lame with naming conventions then what's with "Ariel" and "Miranda". Why not "Planet #213"? Pssh Capital City. So dumb. It annoys me every time I watch Safe.

Capital CIty reminds me of The Simspsons.

For me, things which stand out the most...

- Heart of Gold : The 'chase' scene where Mal , on a horse, tracks down Rance in his hover craft, jumps off the horse and lands on the hover craft, to punch Rance unconscious. Riiiiight.

- Jaynestown: The 'landing pad' was nothing more than a dirt field. Why not spend a few hundred $$$ to make it LOOK like there's some proper pad. It'd make the whole 'land lock' scenario easier to take....I mean, wtf is keeping them from taking off in the first place ? The weeds ?

- Our Mrs Reynolds: You'll note early in the show when Serenity takes off, there's all sorts of vegetation around the ship, but when the shot pulls back , the ship is out in a desert, with no sign of plants or settlement to be seen.

- The Message: The afore mentioned part about simply TELLING Tracy about the plan. 'nuff said.

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PLATONIST

Sunday, May 18, 2008 5:12 PM

Heart of Gold...dumb, dumb

Rance owns a moon and has access to instant DNA testing, but he can't find a surrogate willing to carry his kid, and because of this he gets his head blown off by a reluctant whore that doesn't use birth control?

dumb

SHAMELESS

Monday, May 19, 2008 9:52 AM

Well, be fair - "The United States of America" isn't a very interesting name. Or half the names of towns. A lot of towns don't get named because the name sounds cool and interesting and different - it often has something to do with a characteristic of the town. Port Orchard - it has a port and it has orchards. Capital City - it's the capital and it's a city. But I think with planets... getting a new planet would be such a big deal in comparison to a new town (which usually starts as... a house - unless it's an organized effort, "Hey, let's randomly start a town! All together now!") that there would be a lot more interest in the name.

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LWAVES

Monday, May 19, 2008 6:49 PM

I have no problem with the character of Mr. Universe but that name just sucks.

This would be followed by the 'low battery' light on the the laser in HOG, as mentioned above.

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SIRTHOMAS

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dug:
There's something in Firefly that's been bugging me recently. Take this quote, for instance:

"I wanted to do a show about people who are not 'super,' just working-class people, the people history steps on." - Joss Whedon on Firefly

There are other quotes like that as well. Hearing that quote, how the h311 do I fit River Tam into this 'verse? Even if I think of Serenity as changed due to being a movie, the series was still headed in a decidedly non-ordinary person direction for her.

River and Simon are definitely a big part of the story, but I think what Joss meant by what he was saying was kind of a way to show that the real crew are Mal, Zoe, Inara, Jayne, Wash, and Kaylee.

Even though the episode one starts with all the characters. This is the way I see it, and you might disagree but that’s cool cause my thought is just that, Mal and the others that I wrote out just above have obviously been together for awhile. The episode “Out of Gas” shows Mal and Zoe picking out the ship and then filling all the spots of the crew. I see it as the main crew here is who the story really is about, and River, Simon, and Book are things that have come into the “working class peoples” lives. If it was for these three, mainly Simon and River, then their lives would be just the same old thing every day you know.

Again just kinda how I can see what Joss was getting at. I think its Serenity that really focuses more on the whole River thing, but Joss was having to tell the whole story, instead of getting years to tell it.

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ANOTHERSKY

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:59 AM

I'm going to keep this to "dumb" things, not things-I-wish-didn't-happen, or things-concievably-in-character-once-in-a-blue-moon, or "minor plot holes"---mostly "improbabilities".
This is the really "ouch" stuff.

That said:
SERENITY

1.) Kaylee's "nethers" line---I think Mal voiced everyone's opinion.

2.) The Operative wimping out at the end, in combination with Mal's "what a whiner" line. Uh, like that was epic. Yes the show/movie is self-depricating, but that was just a major downer for plotline. Like Joss said, movies have to be different. It wasn't like the guy was some Rim baron they just owned, this was the destroy-the-world-as-we-know-it Operative.
If you're gonna raise the tough questions, be ready to have the guts to go there.

3.)Boom-flash effects vs. quality storytelling---NOT tapping Book, Wash and Inara, the three least explored characters, but killing off two of them instead.

FIREFLY

1.) Yes, we've all commented on the "The Message" stupid pills apparently imbibed by the whole crew when they make port and pick up Tracey. That was a major plot hole--we needed another restraint as to why they couldn't tell Tracey.

I'll think of more later and be annoyed that I didn't post...

Going for a ride.

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ANOTHERSKY

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:02 AM

Yeah, that was a little harsh, maybe not as polite as I'd like. Things have flaws. Hope nobody took it personal or nothin'. Cause I've got Vera.
:)

Going for a ride.

AnotherSky

KNIGHTREYEDER

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:45 AM

Quote:

That said:
SERENITY

1.) Kaylee's "nethers" line---I think Mal voiced everyone's opinion.

Another Sky

Yeah but Jaynes response deadened the awkwardness pretty well I thought.....He is such a bummer sometimes and yet the real comic relief at others. I think I laugh at him more than I did at Wash.....

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MALACHITE

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:34 PM

One of the dumbest things to me is the line, "We're humped", which is not used once, but three times in the pilot. Makes me cringe every time I hear it, especially when I'm showing the pilot to someone who has never seen it before and they go, "This is the intelligent, witty, creative dialogue you were referring to??" :)

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnotherSky:

Kaylee's "nethers" line---I think Mal voiced everyone's opinion.

Really? I thought Jayne voiced everyone's opinion....

Never kiss 'em on the mouth Chrisisall

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