Why George Bush is a great man & a very good President
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, June 13, 2008 02:56
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Originally posted by rue:
'We' don't think he's a moron and also super-evil dude.
The opposition has likened GW to Hitler (evil genius) and has also called him a moron. That's not my imagination.
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I've read the word fascism is many discussions, but nowhere have I noticed comparisons between Bush and Hitler.
And fascism and Hilter are two different words, you may have noticed. Or maybe not.
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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."
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Originally posted by HavocMan:
...and humans have no impact on global warming. None. Nada. Zip. Zero.
The Earth is a big rock. We occupy a small part of it. To think that we can control the environment - intentionally or not - is just dang crazy.
You do realize that your statement directly contravenes Bush Administration doctrine, as of today. He said in an interview with NBC that mankind has "of course" contributed to global warming and made it worse. And his administration today placed the Polar Bear on the list of threatened species, because of (in their words) the disappearing polar ice due to man-made global warming.
So... are YOU lying, or is the Administration lying?
We don't "control" the environment, but we DO contribute to it. There's a difference, although I'm not sure you realize it.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Another proponent of the Batman philosophy of presidential conduct. What should he have done? Run out to the ruins of the WTC and exclaim to Cheney, “Those dastardly villains!!!”
Okay, Mr. Finn, I haven't posted in months, but your ignorance and stubbornness really inspired me. Listen closely (read my lips, indeed):
We are not saying he should have turned into a superhero. We are saying he should have behaved like the leader of this country, stood up, excused himself calmly from the rest of the 3rd graders, and at least found out what the fuck was going on. Do you get it? Face it, he's a terrible leader - not because he's a Republican or a conservative. He's a terrible leader because he's an amoral, soulless little insect of a man who doesn't give a shit about you or anyone else who isn't his friend or a rich oilman.
Do you really not understand? Really, I'm asking sincerely.
I forgot how to use these damned HTML tags. Cripes. And where the hell is PIRATENEWS?
"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"
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Originally posted by HavocMan:
He's certainly the best we've had since Reagan. Better than Kennedy, LBJ, and Carter, too. Clinton...no contest. Better than Gore (inventor of the intarwebs!) would have been.
Impossible to prove either way, but I respectfully disagree!
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His response to terrorism has been pretty much on target.
Except for the whole Afghanistan/Iraq confusion.
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His predecessors treated terrorism as a law enforcement issue. That attitude is what led to 9/11/01. Our enemies expected more of the same from GW. He threw 'em for a loop, that's for sure. They are on the run now. Ask a Soldier or Marine...and thank 'em.
Anybody tries to kill ya, you kill 'em right back. Sound familiar?
Unless they're from Saudi, homeland of the 9/11 attackers, or drug lords in Afghanistan, or Shiites who were just months ago killing GIs and are now on the payroll.
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I would've liked to see GW reduce the size of government.
I agree... this is what Republicans used to stand for.
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He should have done more with enforcing and protecting our southern border.
I think creating DHS was a mistake. Should have given that mission to existing .gov entities.
Yes... DHS is the seed of destruction for this great country. Truly dangerous and evil, even though it's full of otherwise decent people.
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Looking back, he should have done something about our energy supplies, too. If the dang French can pull off Nuclear energy, so can we. We need to drill in Alaska and off our coastlines.
I think this is a losing proposition. We need to evolve into some different energy sources. It's time.
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On a scale of 10, with 10 being good (Reagan), I'd give him a 7. I like him.
Here's something I don't get about GW opponents ... on the one hand, ya'all call him a moron, idiot, etc. Then on the other hand, ya'all believe he is some kind of super-secret ultra-crook who can keep everyone from knowing "The Truth". How exactly does that work?
That's a good question... I'd say he's a basically amoral, and not too bright, just easily led by a powerful personality like Cheney or God knows who. I don't believe there's a super-secret conspiracy, just a tragically apathetic population who wasn't paying attention.
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GW is "The Man".
I defend and support your right to say this. Because I haven't received a National Security Letter w/gag order from the CIA.
"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"
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Quote:I agree. Whatever is going to happen in the future, I think a Unified Europe is one of those things. It will happen with us, or without us, without us it'll be a French-German Empire, run for the French and Germans, at the expense of everyone else. With us it could hopefully be something more equal, if we can drive a wedge between France and Germany. It's been Britain's function for the last few hundred years squashing petty dictators and their designs on European Empire...
Originally posted by Fletch2:
I could argue that New Labour is a direct result of Thatcherism in both style and policy. Cameron looks like a nice bloke but seems a little "wet." I suspect Europe will remain the Tory Kryptonite, a pity, you have to be in it to change it and Europe desperately needs changing.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Europe has to be of benefit to Europeans and to some extent it has been, there is no other trading block that allows the free and easy migration of labour that Europe allows, something I've taken full advantage of. If an American has the wrong kind of health plan he can have trouble finding a doctor to treat him even in the neighboring state, contrast that with the EHIC card.
European superstate... that we can do without, any form of European government should be limited to issues best tackled at that level. More regional autonomy not less is the answer, we should direct research to areas that give maximum return on investment or maximum social benefit, oh and we need a real space program.
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Quote:And you surmise this because he didn’t become a tv action hero for the cameras, huh? This is really sad, that so many of you confuse reality with tv.
Originally posted by Phoenixship:
Republican or a conservative. He's a terrible leader because he's an amoral, soulless little insect of a man who doesn't give a shit about you or anyone else who isn't his friend or a rich oilman.
So the president should have jumped to action? Dramatically excused himself from a classroom in Florida, then what? He was in Florida, and as far as anyone knew this was World War III. Maybe he should have used his cell phone and called in orders to the joint chiefs? That only works in the movies. Maybe he should have run back to the Whitehouse? In the movies they could just change scenes and he’d be there, but in reality, it would have taken hours and diverted manpower and attention away from the events that morning. So in the end, what would all this superhero stuff accomplish in the real world? Nothing.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:I think that's where Europe is headed, whether we like it or not. It would be better for us to be in it, than 'under it', which I think would happen if we let France, Germany and Brussels dictate terms. How I see Europe is rather different than how those currently constructing it see it though, I'd push for an internally autonomous, externally coherent setup. Something similar to the pre-Civil War US, but with perhaps more regional autonomy for individual states.
Originally posted by Fletch2:
European superstate... that we can do without, any form of European government should be limited to issues best tackled at that level. More regional autonomy not less is the answer, we should direct research to areas that give maximum return on investment or maximum social benefit, oh and we need a real space program.
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Quote:Except it was the changes Thatcher enacted that were actually responsible for much of it's decline. The Trade Union's resistance to change is what probably really did for the Trade Unions, but it was Thatcher that broke up British Industry.
Originally posted by tristanperry:
Destruction of UK industry was down to the TUs resisting change. We were being controlled by the Trade Unions, and ultimately they needed tackling at some point. It was obviously always going to be a political nightmare, although someone had to do it.
Quote:Does popular automatically equate to 'good'?
And private house ownership is something that loads of people (where I live) somehow praise Labour for (the voters around here suck - they honestly believe that being allowed to buy your council house was a Labour policy..) It is a popular move overall, IMHO.
Quote:Of course changing one's stripes at the political wind is nothing short of disastrous, but is being the "Iron Lady", as resistive to changing one's mind no matter what the evidence really any better? Surely that's just dictatorial? Would someone in the middle, between Thatcher and Gordon Brown be better?
Either way, she actually stood up for herself and did what she thought was right. I haven't seen/heard of that since Thatcher.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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