Why George Bush is a great man & a very good President
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, June 13, 2008 02:56
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And there you have it. This batman fantasy is what you have come to expect from reality? Are you and others such a product of a television age where you can’t separate fiction from reality, or is this just an excuse? Are you instead just jumping on the popular “Bush-hater” trend, but lack the understanding to appreciate why some don’t disagree with Bush, so you use this an excuse to following some trend?
Sorry, the batman fantasy is all yours. You actually seem to think Bush is some sort of hero; I think of him as more of a zero. Polls show most Americans agree with me, but thanks for playing anyway...
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Just ask John Kerry, whom your party has portrayed as a traitor, a coward, a snob, and a fake.
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And this is really interesting, because you accept that this whole thing is a fabrication, but you can’t imagine not going allow with it. You convinced yourself that, it doesn’t matter what the truth actually is, just that the perception created by the media is the only real truth. So someone in the media created an imaginary two-dimensional perception, and you accept it and even defend it as it if is real.
Wait, so you're admitting that the whole swift-boating of John Kerry was a fabrication? And that you couldn't imagine going along with it? Can I take that as a formal apology from you and your party for what you did to that man? Do you still wear your darlin' little purple heart Band-Aids, to make fun of a man who actually WENT to Viet Nam, and to support a man who was a draft-dodger and a deserter?
Apology accepted.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Thatcher was extremely politically savvy. Those council house sales? They turned people who would otherwise have rented all their lives into home owners. It gave them a stake in the political system and capital to work with. The privitisations brought millions of people into share ownership for the first time. It made a vast difference in the UK's political landscape and made both major political parties "post Thatcherite."
I could argue that New Labour is a direct result of Thatcherism in both style and policy. Cameron looks like a nice bloke but seems a little "wet." I suspect Europe will remain the Tory Kryptonite, a pity, you have to be in it to change it and Europe desperately needs changing.
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Quote:Realistically, Nero wasn’t even in Rome at the time of the fires, but yes that’s the kind of fabrication that I’m talking about, except that in Nero’s case, I understand it. Nero had people burned on poles just to light his parties. He was a real evil bastard, but George Bush doesn’t do those kinds of things. It’s not even possible for someone in this country to have that kind of power. Yet, here we are with people creating fabrications to justify outrageous hatred of a national leader? And some of you, like Storymark for instance, are really invested in this lie. He gets furious if you challenge this fabricated view of George Bush, because he has accepted, like many Bush-haters, these fabrications as absolute truth.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Did Nero really fiddle while Rome burned? Historians say no - but the PERCEPTION was that he did nothing. And realistically, what was he going to do, put out the fires by himself? But because he was seen as not doing anything, that's the image that stuck throughout history. Bush will have the same image, fiddling away while the towers collapsed, fiddling away while Katrina flooded, fiddling away while the economy collapsed, and playing an encore in the face of global climate change...
So the state has changed - political leaders no longer burn people as tiki torches, but the mob has not. The mob remains as furious and irrational has ever. Only now the rational members of society don’t have as much reason to sympathize with you. I understand why people hated Nero, but hatred of Bush, especially for the reasons given, is just idiotic. And this is really something to worried about, because our political system today, a government for the people and by the people, depends on the people evolving away from their earlier attitudes as well, but that hasn’t seemed to have been as successful.
Quote:This isn’t “knowledge.” There’s no way you could know this. This is more fiddling on the roof.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
My opposition to the Bush regime comes from the knowledge that he is simply not a bright person. He lacks intelligence (in more ways than one, as evidenced on 9/11 and after), he lacks curiosity, he lacks reasoning skills; in short, he's certainly not one of his father's "thousand points of light". In that analogy, he's the dim bulb.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Are you sure ? You sound sure. How do you know that ?
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Quote:Finn has a hard time with the idea that the President of the United States could be just a regular dope that bought the office with family ties & money (sorry Finn, I call 'em as I see 'em).
Originally posted by rue:
Are you sure ? You sound sure. How do you know that ?
isall
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Quote:As usual, you need glasses, because this is your story and storymark story. You’re the ones that can’t except that the president isn’t superman with superhero strengths.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finn has a hard time with the idea that the President of the United States could be just a regular dope that bought the office with family ties & money (sorry Finn, I call 'em as I see 'em).
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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"You’re the ones that can’t accept that the president isn’t superman with superhero strengths."
I'd settle for average with a shred of integrity.
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He's certainly the best we've had since Reagan. Better than Kennedy, LBJ, and Carter, too. Clinton...no contest. Better than Gore (inventor of the intarwebs!) would have been.
His response to terrorism has been pretty much on target. His predecessors treated terrorism as a law enforcement issue. That attitude is what led to 9/11/01. Our enemies expected more of the same from GW. He threw 'em for a loop, that's for sure. They are on the run now. Ask a Soldier or Marine...and thank 'em.
Anybody tries to kill ya, you kill 'em right back. Sound familiar?
I would've liked to see GW reduce the size of government.
He should have done more with enforcing and protecting our southern border.
I think creating DHS was a mistake. Should have given that mission to existing .gov entities.
Looking back, he should have done something about our energy supplies, too. If the dang French can pull off Nuclear energy, so can we. We need to drill in Alaska and off our coastlines.
On a scale of 10, with 10 being good (Reagan), I'd give him a 7. I like him.
Here's something I don't get about GW opponents ... on the one hand, ya'all call him a moron, idiot, etc. Then on the other hand, ya'all believe he is some kind of super-secret ultra-crook who can keep everyone from knowing "The Truth". How exactly does that work?
GW is "The Man".
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It doesn't work that way except in your (assuming) mind. 'We' don't think he's a moron and also super-evil dude. And why you would make such assumptions says more about you than anyone else.
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...and humans have no impact on global warming. None. Nada. Zip. Zero.
The Earth is a big rock. We occupy a small part of it. To think that we can control the environment - intentionally or not - is just dang crazy.
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