Serenity: Better Days Issue #3 Wednesday 5/14/2008 Told ya it was a Firefly/Serenity episode! Here be SPOILERS!

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UPDATED: Friday, August 22, 2008 03:05
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CHRISISALL

Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:

Yeah it's just making me re-evaluate Mal.

IMO Mal has never been above bein' a idiot...

He's not one to lead, remember.

Chrisisall

DAVESHAYNE

Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:34 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by daveshayne:

Yeah it's just making me re-evaluate Mal.
IMO Mal has never been above bein' a idiot...

He's not one to lead, remember.

But his usual stupid involves helping others - especially his crew - this stupid is different.

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident

ANONYMOUS1

Friday, May 16, 2008 2:53 AM

Joss and Brett are so good!!! The artwork so shiny!

This IS a Firefly/Serenity episode!!!

And Inara is so good at reading Mal.

Like in Firefly episode: Bushwacked When Mal gives a little speech about "any peace to be had" and Inara says
"And just when I think I've got you figured out." Firefly The Official Companion Volume One.

And in Firefly episode: Our Mrs. Reynolds When Inara figured that Mal had realized she had kissed him.

I have to watch the series and movie again, I swear there is at least one more example of
where Inara read Mal totally wrong.

Not to say in his thoughts he was worried about the crew breaking up because of the money. Not
to say in his thoughts he wanted some of the money gone. Not to say that in his thoughts he
wants everyone to stay. Like Serenity: Those Left Behind, he can't admit that until after they leave.

Inara thought Mal was a dust devil. Spoiler in case you want to figure this on your own or wait for it to be
revealed in a future Firefly/Serenity episode

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Inara thought that Mal would invite a man on his boat who needed to come upstairs with a big knife
to convince people to tell where the money was.

River...

DAVESHAYNE

Friday, May 16, 2008 3:23 PM

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Originally posted by Anonymous1:
episode
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Inara thought that Mal would invite a man on his boat who needed to come upstairs with a big knife
to convince people to tell where the money was.

River...

So you're saying Inara was mistaken? Because the evidence suggests otherwise.

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident

NBZ

Friday, May 16, 2008 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:
So you're saying Inara was mistaken? Because the evidence suggests otherwise.

I would say yes she was. If not of the conspiracy, then atleast of the motivation.

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Notice how Mal's captors just walk away at the end instead of nabbing Zoe (and him)?

As for how they knew the location... what exactly were Kaylee/Simon/River doing during the whole episode?

KNIGHTREYEDER

Friday, May 16, 2008 7:59 PM

Gott'em on the way, now I've got some new Firefly stuff to get fired up about. Thanks for posting this!

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Mal's expression in the scrapyard when he first see's Serenity says it all.

DAVESHAYNE

Friday, May 16, 2008 8:24 PM

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Originally posted by nbz:
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Originally posted by daveshayne:
So you're saying Inara was mistaken? Because the evidence suggests otherwise.

I would say yes she was. If not of the conspiracy, then atleast of the motivation.

So what other motivation does Mal have for throwing away zillions of credits?

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Notice how Mal's captors just walk away at the end instead of nabbing Zoe (and him)?

As for how they knew the location... what exactly were Kaylee/Simon/River doing during the whole episode?

Select to view spoiler:

I think it's fairly obvious that the gang that stole the money are not the Alliance goons that took Mal. Kaylee and Simon are on the bridge of Serenity while the fight against the military industrial complex guy is taking place. River is just outside the bridge and goes all killbot on one of the thieves that wandered away from looting the hidey place for some reason.

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident

NBZ

Friday, May 16, 2008 10:11 PM

If (and this is still not established - it is a big step) we accept that Mal gave it up, a bigger "reason" would be freedom. A chance to walk away and not be taken to a potentially pre-decided court of law.

Alliance (potentially bounty hunter) scum: What a great day! one person caught, another almost in the bags too. Our reward will be great.

Mal: Hang on... you will get paid to capture us? ...

Of course that still does not mean he would willingly allow someone on his boat. Too much to risk. Too much could go wrong.

Another (for me greater) possibility is that the ship was tracked through the beacon for the broadwave. Simon/River/Kaylee gave away the stash to survive.

DAVESHAYNE

Friday, May 16, 2008 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by nbz:
If (and this is still not established - it is a big step) we accept that Mal gave it up, a bigger "reason" would be freedom. A chance to walk away and not be taken to a potentially pre-decided court of law.

He already got his get out of Alliance Prison free card from Ephraim after the firefight. "We good here?" "Good enough."

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Another (for me greater) possibility is that the ship was tracked through the beacon for the broadwave. Simon/River/Kaylee gave away the stash to survive.

Except if that was what went on one would expect that it would have been shown somehow. Sure it could have happened in which case Kaylee would be all, "I'm sorry cap'n" and Simon would be like, "We we're outgunned we really didn't have an option." and River would be, "Paper. I was going to paste them into a symbol but they fluttered away on the breeze."

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident

NBZ

Friday, May 16, 2008 11:51 PM

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He already got his get out of Alliance Prison free card from Ephraim after the firefight. "We good here?" "Good enough."

which would have been *after* his prior negotiations.

Firefight/robbery seemed to take place at around the same time.

As for he crew 'fessing up - or not - their reactions were not shown. Did River alert the other to the guy she had kicked? no idea.

So my main question asking where Simon/Kaylee/River is still very important.

The main questions over the robbery are:

1. How did they know the crew had money.
2. How did they know where the ship was.
3. How did they know where the money was.

For 1, the possibilities seem to be a0 they were told, b) they guessed based upon the crew's lavish holiday, or c) they were stalked through the past, maybe by whoever the original money belonged to. (Jayne was recognised by the monk...)

For 2, a) they were told, or b) they tracked the signal.

For 3, a) they were told, or b) they were especially good at searching/knew where to look in fireflys, the money has some how trackable.

Another possible scenario: Jayne set up a trust fund for himself. Hired a few goons to get the money when he knew it would not be defended. Something to fall back on if times get rough for him.

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