How Serenity Got Upgraded, Will We Get Answers?
POSTED BY: OutInTheBlack
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:26
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Would the Lassiter have sold for a lot more? I'm not so certain. Being such a high profile item, stolen from a feared, high ranking Alliance officer who no doubt has connections, I doubt any fence would want to touch it. Any that did would no doubt use the noterity of the weapon to drop the price to make the risk of moving it more worth their while.
There is also this dialog from "The Message" script which might bear this out:
Mal and Inara walk through, talking.
INARA:
Struck out again, did you?
MAL:
It's like something out of a fable!
I've got this priceless artifact, the
biggest score of my unseemly career,
and no one will touch it.
INARA:
The Lassiter's universally known.
Fencing it is like...
fencing the Mona Lisa.
MAL:
Well...
(nonchalantly snags an urchin picking his pocket
and retrieves his property)
Mona Who?
INARA:
You're out of your league. You
should consider my offer --
MAL:
I done thinking about that, and you ought to
stay clear.
INARA:
I know people in the highest ranks of --
MAL:
Jabber jabber jabber. I ain't listening.
Just 'cause you helped out on the job
don't make you a crook. I will not
have you jeopardizing your career
over this.
INARA:
The career you abhor and look down on?
MAL:
I just don't want you in the way a'
trouble. Just take it as you like.
(calling out)
Amnon, How you been?
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
But, the whole Blue-Sun thing is over. Joss was made to axe it from the movie so I doubt that we'll see anything about that again.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like for the Blue-Sun to make an appearance. But, given decisions that have been made, I doubt that it's reasonable to assume that it'll happen.
I disagree. Blue Sun was on a corporate retreat that week to conspire for new villany. They'll be back.
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Originally posted by Traveler: Freelancertex, you have to come over to the dark side of the Force and then you will know all.
*in really tired really stressed out Luke Skywalker voice* "I'll never join you." *holds bleeding wrist where her hand used to be to her chest*
god, i havent seen that trilogy in so long...still know it by heart though XD
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Hell, Blue Sun owns half the damn Parliament...only way you'll shift 'em is to knock the share prices through the floor.
(*visualises board meeting a la 'Dogma'*)
Yeah, I liked the series 'Serenity' more, too. That's the one I have in my head when I write.
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Originally posted by andman:
The set was indeed different, because as was so righly said, the original set was taken down. If you listen to Joss' commentary on the DVD, when Simon and Mal are walking down to infirmary towards the beginning, he says that when the camera "Pans" from Mal to Simon halfway down, it is in fact a cut, as the two halves of serenity are now side by side, but they were a complete ship in the series.
The sets in the series were NOT a complete ship! That's a myth! In the series, the top deck took up one stage, and the bottom stage and exterior of the cargobay door, were on another stage.
In the movie, the sets were side by side on the same stage.
I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.
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Quote:He didn't build a story on the entirely different exterior models used for nearly every episode of the series.
Originally posted by OutInTheBlack:
True. It was a completely different set because the first one was dismantled after the series. But there's so much there that I know Joss would build a story on. I mean all of the forshadowing with Blue-Sun with the random things River (like slash Jayne's shirt) did was extreme attention to detail, and I think a complete ship retrograde Joss would notice and do something about it. Besides, I actually liked the series Serenity better.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Will there be another series / movie...?
Sorry, I have been away for some time, busy with life.. A levels etc...
As far as I knew Joss has announced there will be no more screen projects, only the MMORPG which I heard nothing about since... 2006 or 07....
Personally, if they do make a new movie, it better be good as they have killed of Wash, so it won't feel the same, I'm sure as hell confident about that one.
As for a series... hmmn... as long as it doesn't get broadcast on the Sci-Fi channel again.
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
I disagree. Blue Sun was on a corporate retreat that week to conspire for new villany. They'll be back.
I hope that you're joking. Please tell me you're joking...
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Would the Lassiter have sold for a lot more? I'm not so certain. Being such a high profile item, stolen from a feared, high ranking Alliance officer who no doubt has connections, I doubt any fence would want to touch it. Any that did would no doubt use the noterity of the weapon to drop the price to make the risk of moving it more worth their while.
I highly doubt that his connections went into the underworld that Mal lived in. There's also no reason to believe that they do given how he acquired the Lassiter in the first place. Remember, all those things were brought to him by his "mischief" during the war.
I also believe in Occam's razor: the item was too hot at the time being so close to the actual theft. After time went on, this was less so and he was able to fence it. Or he ended up taking Inara's offer (unlikely). That is, IF he fenced it. I don't believe that we were let in on that little detail and it is yet another assumption. Basically, making shit up doesn't fly when we don't even have a hint that something has happened.
There are simple explanations that are real world that explain these things completely. Why the mule? Joss wanted one. Why different "upgrades" around the ship? Because, it's a different set and was designed differently... to be prettier or whatever. Is there some, any, explanation given, or even hinted at as to why things changed in 'Verse? No. Does making shit up solve anything? No. No matter how hard people want to believe that, no.
The fact of the matter is there are numerous breaks in continuity from series to movie. Can't get around it. But, is that really the end of the world? Are you and others so obsessive about this stuff that things HAVE TO be perfect? I would have hoped that people would have just seen them and thought, "Yup, it's a mess up. Oh, well." Instead of spending countless hours wasting time coming up with ways to resolve inconsistencies that only bring up more inconsistencies.
For instance, the sale of the Lassiter. Let's say it happened and that high ranking Alliance official did have connections like you say. Don't you think that Mal, et al would have been bitten in the ass by that shortly afterwards? I mean, he wipped out whole neighbourhoods during the war merely for profit. Basically, if we're going to make gross assumptions, we can't just stop when it suits us. We have to continue to the end of consequences.
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Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
As far as I knew Joss has announced there will be no more screen projects,
Wrong. Joss has said there is no plans to make one and he isn't actively pursuing it. BUT, that he'd do another one should the phone ring. That hasn't happened.
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Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
only the MMORPG which I heard nothing about since... 2006 or 07....
I'm not sure how involved Joss will be in that project. But, yah, not a peep from Multiverse since the original announcement and they don't answer when people ask about it on there forums. We'll just have to see if the MMORPG becomes not vapour-ware.
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Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
Personally, if they do make a new movie, it better be good as they have killed of Wash, so it won't feel the same, I'm sure as hell confident about that one.
But, there's always flash-backs and other tails to tell before his death.
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Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
As for a series... hmmn... as long as it doesn't get broadcast on the Sci-Fi channel again.
Why?
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