How Serenity Got Upgraded, Will We Get Answers?

POSTED BY: OutInTheBlack
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 05:26
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OUTINTHEBLACK

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:44 AM

As many of you have noticed, Serenity is highly upgraded from the series to the movie. The Cockpit is nicer, the cargo bay clings more to the sides and is bluer, there is a replacement antigrav mule for the one lost in War Stories, and many other things. How did they afford to do this? When? Better Days #3 comes out tomorrow. Anyone think that some of those questions will be answered?

TRAVELER

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:53 AM

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At the very start of the film when Simon and Mal are arguing about River, Mal brings up several times that civilization is moving in and their days are numbered. So even though they may have had some luck, it becomes apparent to Mal that their opportunities are getting slim. It will be hard to know what kind of work they will get since most of their contacts have been slain. They may have to take those odd jobs like the bobble-head dolls again.

I feel in a sequel we will see them facing a different set of conflicts. Mal obviously will continue this line of work since it is the only life he knows. So keep your fingers crossed and hope Universal can work a deal with Joss for another film. They know that ticket sales may not be great, but sale DVD's of the film will make up for it.

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FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:34 AM

wait, whats better days? why do i never hear about these things? :-P

TRAVELER

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:44 AM

Freelancertex, you have to come over to the dark side of the Force and then you will know all.

But you are not alone. I did not here about it either. I am to focused on the hopes of a new film to pay attention to other sources of our shiny verse.

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SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:03 AM

It's not the same ship. Just check out the basic architecture and design. Basically, it's a different set made to be similar to the original but not the same. Perhaps there was some legal issues with having something exactly the same. Perhaps someone/some people just wanted to be creative. But, it certainly is different in many ways.

Not everything is profound and linked to the story/world. Sometimes (arguably a good chunk of the time) such things have to do with real world development of the product rather than any deliberate creative decisions.

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"We don't fear the reaper"

OUTINTHEBLACK

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:50 AM

True. It was a completely different set because the first one was dismantled after the series. But there's so much there that I know Joss would build a story on. I mean all of the forshadowing with Blue-Sun with the random things River (like slash Jayne's shirt) did was extreme attention to detail, and I think a complete ship retrograde Joss would notice and do something about it. Besides, I actually liked the series Serenity better.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:08 AM

The newer cockpit "flashy lights" as Joss said, plus the new mule, were from the proceeds of the Lassiter sale. This was after Those Left Behind, and befroe BDM.
Was that info in the commentary, or where did I read that?

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:26 AM

I definitely liked the series Serenity better as well. It had more character. But, the whole Blue-Sun thing is over. Joss was made to axe it from the movie so I doubt that we'll see anything about that again.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like for the Blue-Sun to make an appearance. But, given decisions that have been made, I doubt that it's reasonable to assume that it'll happen.

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But there's so much there that I know Joss would build a story on.
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I think a complete ship retrograde Joss would notice and do something about it.
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Knowing/thinking and hoping are two very different things. But, given the lack of attention to detail (i.e. continuity problems from series to movie) with plot and characters, I doubt that the ship's internal design was much on his mind.

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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:52 AM

Not sure I buy the Lassiter sale theory. I'd imagine that someone just came up with that to explain things. The Lassiter would have net a hell of a lot more money than than to just do those things and we don't see any other improvements. Not to mention that they have problems eating. Such a theory doesn't really fit into canon.

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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

ANDMAN

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:59 PM

The set was indeed different, because as was so righly said, the original set was taken down. If you listen to Joss' commentary on the DVD, when Simon and Mal are walking down to infirmary towards the beginning, he says that when the camera "Pans" from Mal to Simon halfway down, it is in fact a cut, as the two halves of serenity are now side by side, but they were a complete ship in the series.

And I also don't buy the lassiter thing, as we actually hear Mal talking to inara saying how he couldn't believe that no-one wouuld buy it. Maybe they had done another Ariel or two it would make sense, that was after all "Mal's Best Job"

And the reasoning for having a a hovercraft mule was that Joss wanted one all along, but couldn't get one for the the series.

I suspect that another movie or series would bring around even further changes.

PS: To add to your list of in-continuities, the engine is diferent too, where's the handle gone!!??!?

Anybody who disagrees with any of this violently can do so. But no matter what you do, "You can't take the sky from me".

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