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The War on College Students

POSTED BY: SergeantX
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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 7:25 PM

I wonder where SDSU ranks on Playboys top party schools in the nation?


My fraternity was not on the list of those involved.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 7:49 PM

I’m very strongly against the use of drugs. I’ve watched them destroy lives. I watched as my best and longest friend was reduced to a thieving worthless piece of shit because of drugs. A friend of mine from high school is serving two life sentences because while running from police at a drug deal, he ran a red light and killed a mother and her child. This is what drugs do to people. So I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for this crowd. Throw the book at them and let them rot in jail. The only caveat is make sure its well advertised so that other college students who might be enticed by the party-lies of fraternities and sororities get the message.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:06 PM

Did anyone here watch the vid I linked to? My opinions on prohibition are well represented there. I'm interested in any responses to the points they bring up.


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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Did anyone here watch the vid I linked to? My opinions on prohibition are well represented there. I'm interested in any responses to the points they bring up.

What video? I read the article and that was about a campus drug ring brought down by police. I don’t know what your opinions are on prohibition, but if you’re argument is that the use of illegal drugs should be permitted in our universities, it is a poor one at best. This is not just casual marijuana use. These guys were hardcore and regardless of whether one believes drugs should be legalized or not, they shouldn’t be permitted on college campuses or they sure as hell shouldn’t be sold to high school students. So as far as I’m concerned there is no responsible prohibition argument to be made here.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
...So as far as I’m concerned there is no responsible prohibition argument to be made here.



Well, a closed mind is a closed mind.

But, if you should manage to pry it open, I linked to the video in the fourth post of this thread.

SergeantX

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
You obviously assume that because they were dealing drugs, they were dangerous criminals.

From what I can tell, they weren't accused of any violent crimes. They weren't dealing to children. They weren't robbing convenience stores to finance a habit. Just college kids entertaining themselves without government approval. Regardless they're treated as violent criminals, kicked out of school, kicked out of their homes. Many will likely end up in jail where they'll have ample opportunity to become the violent criminals the cops ought to be going after in the first place.

Some kinda backasswards society we've created, eh?

SergeantX

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Oh, I gotta tell ya, I love your post! Quite profound & true...and I've been there myself; no violence, no crime, unless buying alot of Haagen Dazs & pizza is also illegal now. This is so stupid. On many levels these guys are heroic. They're willing to do it to fulfill a desire of choice for the folks and themselves for a harmless, and come on now, fun l'il escape many enjoy from the horrendous realities of the times we live in. Hey, cool and no problemo in the 60's, why not now? Lot worse things out there, and I know it's not a good point to compare different types of "bad" behavior, but I'll take a head over a drunk any day! A drunk will beat and rape and abuse and gamble and philander and get violent and dangerous .......while a pothead's likely sin is to quietly fall asleep on the couch watching Ariel for the 194th time....then ya wake up with that spoon in your back...sucks.

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Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:01 AM

SergeantX, enjoyed the video, never watched these guys before....


I agree there is much room for widespread policy change....

but have little hope or faith that this will happen




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Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:07 AM

They weren't dangerous peeps...why, if just anyone doing anything illegal regardless of actual danger to society were locked up, that would lead to a huge prison population, maybe even the biggest on Earth, with a whole industry to support it, and new laws passed every day to ensure it's growth....

Hard to imagineisall

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Thursday, May 8, 2008 1:44 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
...So as far as I’m concerned there is no responsible prohibition argument to be made here.

Well, a closed mind is a closed mind.

Well that’s asinine. It has nothing to do with closed mindedness. Supporting legalization of drugs doesn’t mean accepting that drug dealers should be set loose on society without restriction. There’s nothing closed minded about not accepting your fanatical view of drug use.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, May 8, 2008 1:48 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
They weren't dangerous peeps...

Of course not, the guns were just decorations and of course selling to high school students doesn’t hurt anyone, except children. To saying nothing of what would happen to our colleges if illicit drugs were tolerated in such an environment.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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