Do you support our current president?
POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 17:33
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Imagine a man traveling to an exotic destination to snorkel with his family. When he arrives at the airport, he remembers he forgot the underwater camera he just bought for the trip. Crap. He calls his brother to pretty please bring the camera to him at the airport. He'll be outside the Departures area waiting. But please hurry, because his flight leaves in 60 minutes and it takes 60 minutes to get to the aiport!
The brother rushes through traffic like a madman. He finds the man 15 minutes before flight time. He hands him the camera, after which the man dashes off to catch his flight. The brother pulls up at a nearby gas station to fill up, only to be surrounded by custom agents.
"Why were you speeding towards the airport?"
"What kind of package were you handing over?"
"Are you an American citizen? How long have you been a citizen?"
"Do you belong to any terrorist organizations?"
"Do you support our current president?"
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This is a true story that just happened to a relative 2 days ago. While I applaud the vigilance of these customs agents in investigating suspicious activity, there is one thing that bothers me.
"Do you support our current president?"
Since when did support of a current president become a gauge or indicator of possible crime? In a situation like this, is it acceptable for the "suspect" to answer no? If you answer no, do you end up at Guantanamo?
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You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence.
--Charles A. Beard
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Why? Is he likely to fall over?
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This surprises you at all ?
Look...
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ANY resistance to the established order, even something so mundane as knowing your Constitutional Rights or even asking WHY you were stopped is enough.
And it's been that way for a lot longer than most folk realize, it's just that the general public kept shouting down the folks trying to bring it to their attention while handing over more and more of our rights, freedoms and resources, that the bastards don't feel the need to hide it anymore.
And it goes back more than one or two presidents, too, so it's not a party issue at all.
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/13/you-are-the-homegrown-terro
rist-threat/
Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",
oh, they point the cannon at YOU, Lord.
-CCR, Fortunate Son.
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I'm skeptical the story actually happened as it was told. First of all, how would the agents know the brother was " speeding toward the airport " ? Yes, there are traffic cams on most major city interstates, they're just simply not used to track real time speeders and the like. The police might know if he was speeding, but not the agents inside the airport. And of course, if the police knew, they'd have acted right away to track him down, they wouldn't hold back on a random car driving fast to see how things play out.
The other questions are conceivable, but I've got the feeling this is more of an internet urban legend than anything.
qIt is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
ANY resistance to the established order, even something so mundane as knowing your Constitutional Rights or even asking WHY you were stopped is enough.
Again, I must call B.S.. The cops often ask YOU why you think they stopped you. If they ask the question, it's only logical to assume you could ask the same question back to them. Asking them why you were stopped isn't an issue, it just isn't.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:1. Questions are asked as much to understand the mindset of the suspect or person of interest - how a person answers this question is more important then the answer. For instance, if you acted as if you were afraid to answer such a question or became agitated that the question was asked, it might say something about your mindset.
Originally posted by canttakesky:
Since when did support of a current president become a gauge or indicator of possible crime? In a situation like this, is it acceptable for the "suspect" to answer no? If you answer no, do you end up at Guantanamo?
2. Obviously.
3. No. There is no one in Guantanamo for not supporting the current administration.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:
Originally posted by canttakesky:
"Do you support our current president?"
Since when did support of a current president become a gauge or indicator of possible crime? In a situation like this, is it acceptable for the "suspect" to answer no? If you answer no, do you end up at Guantanamo?
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Most of America didn't support Bill Clinton, as he never got over 50% of the popular vote. Seems like an odd thing to ask, regardless.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Asking them why you were stopped isn't an issue, it just isn't.
I call bullshit.
How many folks wind up arrested for resisting arrest, which amounts to being yanked into custody for no particular reason or charge ?
It's well known, indisputable fact that if you in any way try to express or enforce your rights when in communication with a Law Enforcement Officer, they will more often than not react quite nastily, anything from petty intimidation up to outright murder, can, have and will.
Your word, especially in light of your utterly laughable credibility, telling me "it just isn't" falls flat in the deluge of evidence to the contrary which can be provided in just mere minutes of research.
Case Examples:
"I don't wish to discuss my personal life with you, officer."
Results in...
""If you don't stop running your mouth, we're going to find a reason to lock you up tonight."
And
"Can't I park here? It's a commuter lot right?"
Results in...
"Do you wanna try me young boy? Do you want to try me tonight young boy?
Do you want to go to jail for some fucking reason I come up with?
Do you wanna see who knows the law better, me or you. My experience compared to your young ass. Huh? Don't ever get smart mouthed with a cop again. I show you what a cop does. Do you understand me?
Try and talk back -- Talk back to me again. I bet I could say you resisted arrest or something. You want to come up with something? I come up with nine things. Do you wanna try something?"
And you try to shovel that "it just isn't" at me ?
No, I do not think so.
It shouldn't be, but it IS, with reams of documented evidence to prove it.
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it might say something about your mindset.
And the mindset that it's none of their fucking business without a warrant is plenty enough to get them one - or how bout refusing to let them root through your stuff being probable cause for a search ?
That catch-22, napoleonic, guilty till proven innocent shit has subverted the intent of our laws to make it exactly the opposite, and giving them a free pass is bullshit.
Oh, and Clinton was every bit as much a rights violating prick, THAT fact is not whatsoever in doubt either, so shove your partisan shill crap and bust caps on the issue for once, willya ?
-F
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Quote:You’re free to not answer the question. In fact it’s your right.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And the mindset that it's none of their fucking business without a warrant is plenty enough to get them one - or how bout refusing to let them root through your stuff being probable cause for a search ?
That catch-22, napoleonic, guilty till proven innocent shit has subverted the intent of our laws to make it exactly the opposite, and giving them a free pass is bullshit.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
Asking them why you were stopped isn't an issue, it just isn't.
I call bullshit....
I'll second that. I got stories, but it's not even worth getting into. I just think it's funny watching the usual authoritarian sycophants come out of the woodwork to defend this shit. Are you guys into the kinky whips and chains stuff too?
Seriously, how much fascist cock will you swallow before you gag???
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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