Is it just me- or does Galactica's third season BLOW?
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UPDATED: Saturday, November 29, 2025 17:23
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I'm in the middle of season 3 right now. Just got to the "boxing" ep.
The commentary touches on "Fat Lee" briefly. It was yet another dead end they took the character down, apparently. (The writers seem to be scratching their heads and wondering why they did it too.)
I did love the job they did with the makeup on that one.
They used footage that they'd shot for "Unfinished Business" (afore mentioned boxing ep), which they'd shot knowing that they'd never rebuild that huge set for New Caprica again, and just said "let's get some shots like this that we can use for something eventually later on, what stories might we tell about the missing year...", and then let things roll.
Then they used them for the flashbacks.
The season started out making me think that it was pretty dark, even for BSG, and then it got a little more hopeful. I'd definitely agree that there was probably a little... okay a lot.. of sociopolitical commentary seeping in at the edges for a while there.
I'm not sure where they're going yet, and the writers may not be either. I'm still Netflixing the seasons as they become available, or I may resort to the library system if they get hold of discs first somehow.
Remind me to read threads with my fingers across the screen in case anybody decides to, say, TELL WHO ALL THE FRAKKING CYLONS ARE IN A THREAD ON SEASON 3 OR SOMETHING!!!!
(ahem.)
I'll just try to forget the foreshadowing shall I?
Frankly I always assumed that Tigh's wife was a cylon, but Tyrol never even entered my mind as a possibility. So unless the perky little mechanic is also a Cylon there's more than 1 cylon/human child floating around out there. Unless I misread the spoilers.
Anyway, it's all just TV trying to entertain and engender thoughtful discourse.
But yeah, it's leaving me a little flat. Feels like it's flailing around a bit.
I'm having fun watching the crowd scenes to play "Spot Troy!". (Canadian browncoat who is an extra on the show)
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Can't say I've ever heard Nathan say he was Han Solo, I'll have to take your word for it. Frankly I don't see it, Han just doesn't come off near as dark as Mal. I've always felt the best model for Mal was Ethan Edwards from John Ford's The Searchers.
Aside from animated series what other Space-westerns have you seen? I've heard that Star Trek was pitched as "Wagon Train to the Stars" but never felt that comparison made any sense. "Hornblower in Space" I grok, fully ..."Wagon Train" not so much. I'll concede that Outland with Sean Connery was Highnoon in Space. But I'd be interested in other examples, they might be worth a watch or a read.
Regarding your last point, everybody borrows. Shakespeare borrowed. Robert Heinlein makes fun of the borrowing process. Joss said he was inspired to create Firefly after reading a The Killer Angels. But, some of these 'remakes' like BSG and Starship Troopers go beyond inspiration. What's the point of taking the premise and the names and then making something so completely different that it runs against the core ideas of the original. It's like the authors of these things are out there trying to rewrite our memories. I don't like it.
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You're quite welcome, it's a specialty.
Can't say I've ever heard Nathan say he was Han Solo, I'll have to take your word for it. Frankly I don't see it, Han just doesn't come off near as dark as Mal. I've always felt the best model for Mal was Ethan Edwards from John Ford's The Searchers.
Aside from animated series what other Space-westerns have you seen? I've heard that Star Trek was pitched as "Wagon Train to the Stars" but never felt that comparison made any sense. "Hornblower in Space" I grok, fully ..."Wagon Train" not so much. I'll concede that Outland with Sean Connery was Highnoon in Space. But I'd be interested in other examples, they might be worth a watch or a read.
Well, the animated ones are definitely a strong example, so I dn't think they should be discounted. You've mentioned others as well. If you want to break it down to the episodes - train heists, have been done a thousand times. Hell, "Heart of Gold" acknowledges in the title that they're treading familliar ground - the hooker with a hert of gold story. As for the Han Solo comment, I've read it in interviews, and I think on one of the commentaries he mentions it.
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Regarding your last point, everybody borrows. Shakespeare borrowed. Robert Heinlein makes fun of the borrowing process. Joss said he was inspired to create Firefly after reading a The Killer Angels. But, some of these 'remakes' like BSG and Starship Troopers go beyond inspiration. What's the point of taking the premise and the names and then making something so completely different that it runs against the core ideas of the original. It's like the authors of these things are out there trying to rewrite our memories. I don't like it.
Exactly, everyone borrows. In the case of BSG, they borrowed names, but created entirely new stories. And it's the stories that I care about - not some nostalgic connection to a 30-year old cult show. If someone comes along in 30 years and does a new show called Firefly about a misfit crew with a Captain named Mal, and turn Book or Jayne into a girl, I'll still watch it - if the story is good. It won't rewrite my memories. It's not like the crew of the new BSG are running out destroying the DVD's of the old show. And realistically, when a reimagining/remake happens, it books the sales of the original, so really it does quite the opposite of what you suggest.
You may not like it, that's your perrogotive - but a lot of us could care less. If they tell a good story, they're aces with me.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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So unless the perky little mechanic is also a Cylon there's more than 1 cylon/human child floating around out there. Unless I misread the spoilers.
I don't have an episode guide and a calendar to hand, but didn't she get raped by one of the convicts in an earlier show?
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You may not like it, that's your perrogotive - but a lot of us could care less.
And a lot of us do care. In the end, what can I say - they own the rights.
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If they tell a good story, they're aces with me.
All in the eyes of the beholder. Inspite of my reservations about the character changes, they had me interested with the mini-series. But once the series started the episodes just went down hill and they lost me shortly into the 2nd season.
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Almost, but they rescued her in the nick of time.
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So unless the perky little mechanic is also a Cylon there's more than 1 cylon/human child floating around out there. Unless I misread the spoilers.
I don't have an episode guide and a calendar to hand, but didn't she get raped by one of the convicts in an earlier show?
Attempted rape. Cally bit his ear off.
"Can you, for a moment, imagine how depressing it is to teach one thousand years of masculine ineptitude? Why do you think there are so few women historians? I'll tell you why. Because history is not such a frolic for women as it is for men... History is a commentary on the various and continuing incapabilities of men. History is women following behind with a bucket and a mop." - Alan Bennett, "The History Boys"
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You may not like it, that's your perrogotive - but a lot of us could care less.
And a lot of us do care. In the end, what can I say - they own the rights.Quote:
If they tell a good story, they're aces with me.
All in the eyes of the beholder. Inspite of my reservations about the character changes, they had me interested with the mini-series. But once the series started the episodes just went down hill and they lost me shortly into the 2nd season.
Fair enough. There are those who don't like Firefly, either.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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The fans are saying Cally, Cavil and Simon are next to die.....these guys are number 1 leader in the deadpool
which is a shame since I find Apollo Adama and Starbuck Thrace to be way more annoying.
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