Is it just me- or does Galactica's third season BLOW?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, November 29, 2025 17:23
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Amen, bro.
So far, the best BSG for me hasn't come close to
Dark Angel.
Loganisall
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They started to lose me once they made Starbuck a woman. And then they made Boomer a woman and a Cylon. I watched the mini-series and first season consistently, the second season occassionally and tuned out sometime after the second episode in season 3. The writers and producers of BSG are typical of the entertainment industry today, they're only creative to the point that they can take someone else's idea and play "what if" with it.
Which makes me want to ask, was franchise was screwed up more creatively? BSG, Starship Troopers, or Enterprise?
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Its just you Chrisisall...
As for Dark Angel... I bought both seasons over a year ago after reading some of you rantings about it.. 
I still havent finished season 2. Its not awful.. but it doesn't come close to BSG even Season 3 of BSG is far superior.
IMO
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Quote:It was actually what the actors & writers said about where they're taking it, which sounded somewhat like a possible redemption concerning the loss of direction...
Originally posted by ecgordon:
Be careful, Chris. You wouldn't want to say something you'll regret later. Your opinion should be an informed one, not something based on what you've read that someone else has said about the show.
MAYBEisall
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Quote:Errr, apparently not...
Originally posted by Calhoun:
Its just you Chrisisall...
Quote:I accept no responsibility here- I bought seasons one & two of Angel for the same reasons & found them to be mostly just okay, nothing I would have shelled out fourty bucks a piece for if I'd known- it just didn't grab me, whacha gonna do?
As for Dark Angel... I bought both seasons over a year ago after reading some of you rantings about it..
Quote:The worst ep of Dark Angel (and season two has it's share) still engages me on an honest human level more than the best of BSG- the characters in BSG seem like dark partial sketches to me- I never felt like I really knew any of them, and that's NOT the fault of the excellent cast IMO.
I still havent finished season 2. Its not awful.. but it doesn't come close to BSG even Season 3 of BSG is far superior.
IMO
Moore is less.
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Veteran:
The writers and producers of BSG are typical of the entertainment industry today, they're only creative to the point that they can take someone else's idea and play "what if" with it.
You must not like Firefly much, either. Cuase as cool as it was, it wasn't exactly original.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Oh? Sorry, I didn't know that there was a show previously named Firefly with an established storyline and characters that Joss hijacked? No doubt Joss was insprired by an number of different stories and characters, but he didn't get everything from one place and simply rewrite random aspects of it just to make it different enough so he could consider himself creative in his own mind.
I suppose you could make the case nothing's original, shoot Shakespeare lifted stories and characters from a number of sources. But there's a difference.
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That's not what I said, but thanks for being so knee-jerk. My point was, the scapce-western has been done, many times. Some of the characters are very familliar (how many times has Nathan Fillion said flat-out that he was essentially playing Han Solo?)
Firefly took existing ideas, and made a semi-new premise of them. With BSG, they used the basic premise, and the names, then developed new ideas within that frame. Six of one, half-dozen of the other. Different approaches to re-interpreting something that has been done before.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
More to pile on:
Why, if they HAD them on New Caprica, did they not STATION Cylon Centurians among them so they couldn't do secret stuff?
Cylons that okayed the nuking of the Colonies killing billions?
They have the ability to make themselves 'human'(as much as they desire, anyway) based on earlier genetic experimentation with live human subjects, but for some reason they NEED humans ALIVE NOW?!?!?!?!
I don't think you have been following the plot...
The Cylons have a religion in which their human creators are involved, somehow - and they're a bit screwed up over it.
They are also strongly factionalised (mainly along "model" lines).
Its was established in S2 that one faction among the Cylons (in which Boomer Mk 1 and Caprica 6 were instrumental) which denounced the initial genocide had gained influence. The pro-genocide factions haven't gone away - and have clearly regained some influence by the time the Cylons discover New Caprica.
The sort of contradictions you point out are exactly the half-assed mess you would expect to see as the result of a political compromise between one faction wanting to "live in harmony" with humans and another wanting to destroy them.
Perhaps you're just insufficiently cynical and jaded about human nature to appreciate BSG?
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Dark Angel makes BSG look like Space 1999, boo.
Careful there: there were two seasons of "Space 1999":
Season one was dark, mysterious, moody and pretty wonderful* with terrific (for the time) FX. Be rude about that and I'll start trying really hard to find bad things to say about Dark Angel.
Season two was a pile of transparently Trek-derivative go-se (they'd even managed to wreck the theme tune) which bears comparison with Galactica 1980.
(* provided you draw a kindly veil over the science. Gerry Anderson never was at home to Messers Newton or Einstein - DO NOT hire him to fit windows to your moon base unless you want them to open outwards!)
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Quote:LOL!!!
Originally posted by ImNotHere:
(* provided you draw a kindly veil over the science. Gerry Anderson never was at home to Messers Newton or Einstein - DO NOT hire him to fit windows to your moon base unless you want them to open outwards!)
hehehehehChrisisall
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