distorted 'feminist' view of firefly

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:01 PM

Very well stated HK. Though I'm not quite sure how you're using "Stalinist," but other then that, very well said.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

MUGGI

Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:32 PM

Wow.

Perfect example of the difference between wanting equality and radical feminism, or "feminist-lite" as the author calls it. This woman does not want women treated equally, she wants a matriarchal society.

What bothered me about the article was her obvious nitpicking of certain lines and interactions with no concept of context. I mean, she rails against Zoe for calling Mal "Sir", but completely disregards the history or position of the two. She berates Mal for telling Zoe to "shut up", when Mal needed to get a word to Wash.

It's the "blinders effect" in full force: everything said to, about, or by women is a direct reflection on their sex. Here's a tip for future viewing: it's not. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

It makes me very sad, as people like her are one of the things that stand in the way of women getting true equality in our society.

HKCAVALIER

Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Though I'm not quite sure how you're using "Stalinist," but other then that, very well said.

Oh, I was thinking of "socialist realism," State art that promotes the state. In Alecto's case, the state is radical feminism. Thanks for your kind words, Finn.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

MAL4PREZ

Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Whose asking him to apologise? I'm not an angry white homosexual homophobe, who is struggling to come to terms with their racism and sexism . I say it only to highlight the absurdity of the misogyny accusation.

Yeah, sorry cit. I wasn't meaning to aim a rant at you. Your post set me onto my own tangent re Joss's treatment of gender roles, which I find so interesting. Well, ok, and I wasn't sure if the thread was going to go into some: "women are stronger than men on Buffy and that's not fair!" thing, which your added sentence made clear was not at all what you meant.

Stinkingrose - You are too funny! Kill all penis attachments! Grrr! Argh!

HK - such a good point. The crazy blogger should consider that a show depicting a victimized woman does not mean the writer likes things that way. The Inara situation is a good example - is a Companion empowered or taken advantage of? I don't think Joss makes that judgement for us; he only puts the question out there for us to ponder.

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BORIS

Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:52 AM

Bugger me! (that's the least rude thing I could say after reading the so called "feminist rant") It's disturbing how some people can fully mis comprehend something, and then turn it into something else that is hideously distorted! obviously this person is suffering from some acute disempowerment issues...or she's intellectually deficient, and is in denial of the fact. It's also possible that she has had experiences with men that were so ugly it has coloured her interpretation.( if that's the case I am sorry for her) Let's hope she is not in a position to influence anyone else with her opinion, as if this is how she misinterprets Firefly, imagine how profoundly she may misinterpret real world situations.

BORIS

Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:02 AM

She's such a Racist.I had never considered the significance of the racial background of any of the characters in Joss Whedon's shows...because race doesn't matter in his worlds...which is the way it should be. "rant bitch" is obviously a racist, obviously unworldly, and obviously someone who is going through a serious self errosion process. Anyone who hates that vehemently is headed for hell in their own brain territory.

KAYNA

Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JRC:
Someone made a comment asking if she was going to analyze "Objects In Space". This is her reply:

"Yes, I plan to. I found Objects in Space to be horrifically racist. I can't believe that Joss was allowed to air a show that had such a terrible portrayal of Black men. I also found the portrayal of the Black man in the movie Serenity to be pretty horrifying too."

It's also quite funny how she has replied to only a select few people.

It's both sad and fascinating how she defines racism as a black man in the role of an antagonist. All I saw were interesting chracters being played wonderfully. They could just as easily have been white men and she wouldn't have had any issues with racism them. She doesn't seem to realize that you can be racist to people of any race. In this case though, it's not about color, it's about acting ability. And at least the Operative had ideals and convictions, unlike some of Firefly's caucasion villans (Badger).

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

JOANNAHOBBIT

Monday, March 31, 2008 3:13 AM

I think Joss Wheedon should sue her ass for these accusations against her and then use the money to make a new series of Firefly just to really piss her of and make us incrediblly happy.

I don't think she has the right to call herself any thing because in any culture she is just plain vindictive.

Joanna G

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, March 31, 2008 4:59 AM

There are times when it seems that some of these feminazis consider "feminist" and "lesbian" to be redundant, interchangeable terms.

JOANNAHOBBIT

Monday, March 31, 2008 5:54 AM

I think i might be incrediblyy slow but check this out this video about a Serenity 2

Joanna G

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